Cost of engine build before and after zzm???
 

How significant is the price deference between beefing up your engine before it blows compared to after??

depends on how much you can find a bare block for. i've seen people trying to sell bare short blocks for 1k.

Beefing up? Usually when someones engine "blows" a rod snaps and puts a whole in the block. In that case you have to replace the block. Now, if you rebuild (not beef up) your engine with- stronger rods and pistons -before this happens you do not need to replace you block, usually.

the cost of a block and possibly head and possibly crank. As well as a few more misc. parts. Depends of how savage the destruction is. Good thing for you is though...you won't need an engine hoist with how much you can lift bro.

Going BT?

if you build with another block/head because of zzb. Then the price of rods, pistons, studs, bearings, machine work, etc + new or used block and/or head.

Just fill in your value of X which equals your ZZB value, 0 would equal using your existing motor and another motor/head/block will be a positive value. The un-controlled variable in this formula is doing your own research before making a thread asking about it though.

Math is fucking awesome!!!:biggthumpup:

I lol'd.

Still contemplating, seeing a bunch of people blowing their shit up with bt's makes me wonder if its worth rebuilding prior to that.

Thanks. I am actually honored that you know my godlike strength ability.

Only people who blow stock motors are people pushing it, idiots, or bad tune. It's pretty well known what you can and can't do.

But then again, life's a game of chances isn't it?

A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one

Don't forget to factor in all the indirect costs of ZZB. Towing, potential hotel stays if out of town when it goes, rental replacements...

Honestly how much power are you looking for? There are lots of threads on here about BT builds showing the limits of different factors. Factor one is proper tuning. It's the be all and end all of everything.

Better off finding a block and building it, then selling stock motor to offset the cost. Wait until you find a cheap block; mine was $400, but I've seen people get them for around $50. Just make sure it's non-ventilated.

Apparently you don't read enough.


Plenty of methodically tuned, well maintained speeds have popped.

Yes, there are those that push the boundaries, but there have been plenty of VTA blocks that had no identifiable reason.

Well then I haven't learned shit since I've been on here, because I've blown my shit up 3 times.






Actually, that's about right in my case. But there are plenty who have blown bone stock.

True that, but there are people who because of pride, won't admit they were at the top of fourth and went into third instead of fifth. That's probably the biggest cause of ZZB across all platforms.

I've read the threads and still no clear answers. I was just curious why some people decide to push the limits and then say "once it blow, ill rebuild it" So i was just curious as to what $$ difference there is between rebuilding with the block in tact vs when it blows.


exactly my point. One of the locals just blew on a k04. I guess you never know

That's actually incorrect. Most people blow after cruising for awhile, and give it a little gas in 5th or 6th gear when the engine is below 3k RPM's. The combination of high intake temps, combined with the increased timing from the factory tune, plus the VVT timing bump (which effectively increases compression ratio in the cylinders) is not friendly to our weak powder-forged rods. It makes them want to breath more, so they escape through the block.