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ChimmyChong 01-30-2012 04:13 PM

over 40k miles on my kmd internals...
hope they keep on fueling

SamInAustinTX 02-14-2012 07:05 PM

So KMD is replacing the internals, on defect, and shipped a new set yesterday.

So those of you who claimed install fail...suck my dick.

@doubleflusher @Payne Racing 67 @bbode0 @JTMS3 @helmetfail

I<3Groceries 02-14-2012 07:19 PM

mrlilguy pumps used KMD internals, didn't they? There's got to be some OG guys running those here.
Ive had KMD internals for going on 4 years. Bought from Ken at Protege Garage. Installed myself. Nearly 40K miles of high pressure. WTF happened to these guys?


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doubleflusher 02-14-2012 07:20 PM

I look forward to your next set failing, just after all of your family members eat bullets for being related to you.

SamInAustinTX 02-14-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleflusher (Post 1260518)
I look forward to your next set failing, just after all of your family members eat bullets for being related to you.

http://www.socialdouche.com/wp-conte...bro_super.jpeg

doubleflusher 02-14-2012 07:32 PM

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...tevenmadp1.gif

I'm not the one with failed internals.

SamInAustinTX 02-14-2012 07:41 PM

haha nice meme.

Boost Addict 02-14-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX (Post 1260484)
So KMD is replacing the internals, on defect, and shipped a new set yesterday.

So those of you who claimed install fail...suck my dick.

@doubleflusher @Payne Racing 67 @bbode0 @JTMS3 @helmetfail


Ok, so it wasnt an install error, still no need to bitch and complain like a little girl and bash a company.

dereeek 02-14-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX (Post 1260484)
So KMD is replacing the internals, on defect, and shipped a new set yesterday.

So those of you who claimed install fail...suck my dick.

@doubleflusher @Payne Racing 67 @bbode0 @JTMS3 @helmetfail

perfect, now you can sell them, and buy a good pair of internals.

SamInAustinTX 02-14-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dereeek (Post 1260646)
perfect, now you can sell them, and buy a good pair of internals.

Done, have the autotechs sitting in front of me, and the KMD's are getting picked up tomorrow!

khopwood77 02-14-2012 08:36 PM

21k on KMD internals with full e85 and 110% injector duty cycle. If KMD sold a spill valve i'd buy that too.

JTMS3 02-14-2012 09:31 PM

I said could have been.. never said it absolutely was but w/e. I am sure you feel better about yourself with that broad shouldered post. Enjoy the new internals! :D

m4tic 02-14-2012 10:25 PM

a mazdaspeed engine blew, fuck mazda

helmetface 02-15-2012 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX (Post 1260484)
So KMD is replacing the internals, on defect, and shipped a new set yesterday.

So those of you who claimed install fail...suck my dick.

@doubleflusher @Payne Racing 67 @bbode0 @JTMS3 @helmetfail

If you wine like a bitch long enough, most legitimate companies will give into you.

Did you really copy and paste all the names in your thread that doubted your ability? Well, I still doubt your 'ability' and on top of that you're a sad, small man who is in dire need of an ego boost.

Sorry bro, you still lost.

Bosox 02-24-2012 08:26 PM

I didn't bother reading the entire bitch fest but I do need internals. Can I get a Cliff's note version of whether I should buy KMD or Autotech?

MS3kid08 02-24-2012 08:40 PM

Ptp, his have great warrantee and no failures lately

TWOptSL0W 02-24-2012 08:51 PM

get either kmd or autotech. both are perfectly fine and aside from op, i have never heard of them failing besides install error. i have heard of ptp failing and seen them, but i am not here to bash him. i personally have had kmds for 20k++ and have NEVER had an issue. plus they were very nice when i went to the shop to get them

jman46 02-24-2012 09:05 PM

Post #135, read it all. Autotech's. Have a coke and a fuckin smile.

dpolseno41 02-29-2012 06:41 PM

I just had KMD's fail on me. There was play between the shaft and collar. I just got Autotech's and all is well now. KMD won't admit it but they must have had a bad batch. This was the email I received from them:

I’m sorry about the trouble your experiencing but we’re here to help so thanks for the opportunity to assist you!

I’d like to first clarify the statement about creating a bad batch... You can rest assured that there is no known “bad batch” out on the market as I assure you that the batches we have sold to date were quality controlled to the highest degree possible prior to being sold. Please allow me to go further into detail… When we receive the fuel pump kits from the machine shop (who are based in the USA, not international) we quality control them internally, which includes (but is not limited to) a visual microscopic inspection, micrometer measuring, light testing, etc., prior to shipping them out. On some occasions we have had to return batches back to the machine shop to be redone because the kits failed our internal quality control, however, those kits were not sold to or used by any customers. Even if it it's for the most minor thing and/or even if we don't feel 100% comfortable with the batch we send it back to the machine shop right away because we don't take chances. We stand behind our products 100% so we wouldn't just put a questionable item out there for the sake of a sale. Customer satisfaction, product quality, and product reliability is so much more important to us.



With that said, we certainly don't claim to be faultless. Like anything else and just as with any other manufacture (regardless of product), there is a percentage of production defect (which we're proud to admit is a small percentage) and that's why we offer the warranty policy we do, which is in-line with the industry standard. If anyone for whatever reason (whether it's a matter of production defect, installation error, housing defect/failure to replace or remedy old housings, excessive abuse/neglect, etc.) ever has a problem with a kit we will always gladly accept a warranty claim for it (for complete details on our policy please refer to the Terms and Conditions section of our website: Terms & Conditions - KMD Tuning & Engineering or page 1 of the install instructions that came with the kit). We don't turn our back or turn anyone away because customer satisfaction is our top priority so we will always do whatever we can to help.

nswartz19 03-03-2012 06:59 PM

Just had my KMD's fail on me as well. After having to wait on them for 2.5 months because of quality control, and now this. Blahhhh

McGee 03-03-2012 07:17 PM

If you even have to think about which internals to buy you're either:
A: Haven't searched
B: Retarded
C: Haven't searched and retarded

The running pumps to failed pumps ratio is pretty obvious.
They would both have the same ratio of install error as well, so it's pretty obvious which to go with

drenkel 03-03-2012 08:20 PM

I've had the KMD V2 internals for about 10K miles, still holding 1800+ PSI just fine. I've personally installed 6 other sets of KMD's for others in my area, and all are doing just fine.

Bucker 03-03-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drenkel (Post 1292129)
I've had the KMD V2 internals for about 10K miles, still holding 1800+ PSI just fine. I've personally installed 6 other sets of KMD's for others in my area, and all are doing just fine.

Congrats. The failure rate is low, but they are failing more than others on the market. Don't get defensive, it is a definitive statement that they are more failure prone. The VW guys knew this before us and actually pointed me towards the Autotechs back when I got mine from CTS Turbo, a VW performance shop.

drenkel 03-03-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucker (Post 1292137)
Congrats. The failure rate is low, but they are failing more than others on the market. Don't get defensive, it is a definitive statement that they are more failure prone. The VW guys knew this before us and actually pointed me towards the Autotechs back when I got mine from CTS Turbo, a VW performance shop.

Not getting defensive at all, just wanted to put my .02 cents out there. The guys in my area are running KMD's and we are doing fine so far.

I remember at one point I saw a how-to article on here that recommended soaking the internals in gasoline prior to install and was like WTF is the purpose of that. A tiny little spec of dust in there can eventually cause problems... it's all about a clean environment and a proper install.

Just sayin, the people bashing the KMD's make the issue sound worse than it really is. Every part has a small failure rate, no matter who makes them. I would be willing to guess out of all of KMD and Autotech failures, at least 90% of them were install error.

Bucker 03-03-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drenkel (Post 1292146)
Not getting defensive at all, just wanted to put my .02 cents out there. The guys in my area are running KMD's and we are doing fine so far.

I remember at one point I saw a how-to article on here that recommended soaking the internals in gasoline prior to install and was like WTF is the purpose of that. A tiny little spec of dust in there can eventually cause problems... it's all about a clean environment and a proper install.

Just sayin, the people bashing the KMD's make the issue sound worse than it really is. Every part has a small failure rate, no matter who makes them. I would be willing to guess out of all of KMD and Autotech failures, at least 90% of them were install error.


Agreed that most of these failures would be install error. FYI, when I install them I spray them down with brake cleaner then soak them in fresh oil. People dont like that method, either, but it works.

drenkel 03-03-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucker (Post 1292152)
Agreed that most of these failures would be install error. FYI, when I install them I spray them down with brake cleaner then soak them in fresh oil. People dont like that method, either, but it works.

That's exactly how I do mine. Use neoprene gloves, do it in the garage with the door closed so no dust ect is blowing about, and spray them well with brake cleaner. Then don't set them on a rag or some shit with lint on it, a nice clean piece of plastic. Then spray the pump out as well as well, oil everything down and install. Should be golden on any set if done in that manner.

Bucker 03-03-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drenkel (Post 1292155)
That's exactly how I do mine. Use neoprene gloves, do it in the garage with the door closed so no dust ect is blowing about, and spray them well with brake cleaner. Then don't set them on a rag or some shit with lint on it, a nice clean piece of plastic. Then spray the pump out as well as well, oil everything down and install. Should be golden on any set if done in that manner.

Lol good to hear! I actually put them in a ziplock bag with the oil while I take the pump out and apart so they are protected too. Sweeeet.

Mchart 03-04-2012 04:03 AM

Figured I'd post and say that just yesterday my KMD internals have been running for 30k miles now.

Bosox 03-04-2012 09:45 AM

When you guys are soaking them in oil, what kind of oil are you using?

Raider 03-04-2012 09:47 AM

Olive and vegetable work best, right?

SofaKingAwesome 03-04-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1292649)
Olive and vegetable work best, right?

I use astroglide personally

helmetface 03-04-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1292649)
Olive and vegetable work best, right?

Seweing machine oil.

Tard

bigriver 03-04-2012 10:50 AM

Coconut oil so it smells nice.

Bosox 03-06-2012 03:18 PM

asshats

Get your stuff. There are plenty of people willing to help you out.... blah fucking blah

wankular 03-06-2012 03:53 PM

When I get internals I am going to take them to the tattoo shop to see if I can put them in the autoclave.


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