DO NOT BUY KMD INTERNALS

[CCC]

Originally Posted by helmetfail Fast forward 80-something posts. .. Are kiddos still having trouble doing their own installs? Jesus christ 4k miles on my KMDs and 1900@WOT...yea they're broken. /internetsarcasm

I know you have been leading a crusade to blame all bad KMD internals on the installer, but even KMD admitted to me that the internals they sent me were out of spec.

Not sure why you feel to make these comments in every internal thread. You got good internals, some other people didn't, and some other people botched install of good internals. No way for you to know what category people fall into unless you were there for the install and can examine the part both before or after.

We are all so very impressed that you got good internals and properly installed them, congrats bro tell us more.

[faeker]

I've had my KMD's in since April 2011 and I haven't had any issues. FP stays strong at 1800+. It's always hard for people to constructively comment on threads that deal with bum parts when they have installed the same part and haven't had any problems. What I got out of this thread is:

1.OP may or may not have installed the part correctly. Who knows. Maybe he pinched a seal.
2. OP was out of KMD's clearly stated warranty but expected them to replace his parts anyway.
3. KMD clearly states that this part may work with other fuel pumps than on their list, but they do not guarantee it.
4. KMD treated OP with less than stellar customer service.
5. KMD replaceds the parts.

Initially I was of the mind that the OP was just being a whiny little cunt about the issue, but we all know how customer service affects our overall experience with a parts vendor. Had they treated him with civility and respect, I doubt his post would have been as negative sounding. It sucks that the part allegedly went bad, and it sucks more that the company treated him like crap, but I can't see the justification for shitting on them because we use a part of their's that they DO NOT say will work on our vehicle. With all that said, when my internals eventually fail, I am more inclined to purchase autotech's for a replacement, but for now, my kmd's are holding strong.

[SFWD 1934]

Just got a log from a customer. He dipped as low as 878.8 pounds on his. He was in the triple digits for a while. Looked like a stock fuel pump on a Gen 2 when you push it past the 18PSI of boost mark. I am glad I did not raise the load cap, because the car wanted to make more power/torque. Could of been very interesting to say the least if I had.

Jason

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by CCC I know you have been leading a crusade to blame all bad KMD internals on the installer, but even KMD admitted to me that the internals they sent me were out of spec. Not sure why you feel to make these comments in every internal thread. You got good internals, some other people didn't, and some other people botched install of good internals. No way for you to know what category people fall into unless you were there for the install and can examine the part both before or after. We are all so very impressed that you got good internals and properly installed them, congrats bro tell us more.

Ha, just playing the balance hammer ccc.

It's good that you got them to admit that, I still hold to my original statement that most internal fails are user error.

Again though, I'm glad you heard it from their mouths. I am not bragging that I am able to perform a simple install, just the miles that I've put on them and them having not failed.

That's all bruh

[Stingray69]

Thread summary:

OP is pissed
Some people have good luck with KMD
No one bitching about Autotechs
Heard enough to buy Autotechs not KMD

Knob creek is good bourbon!

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Stingray69 Thread summary: OP is pissed Some people have good luck with KMD No one bitching about Autotechs Heard enough to buy Autotechs not KMD Knob creek is good bourbon!

You're not looking hard enough if you didn't find autotech failure thread...

Autotech internals seized?

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[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by SFWD 1934 Just got a log from a customer. He dipped as low as 878.8 pounds on his. He was in the triple digits for a while. Looked like a stock fuel pump on a Gen 2 when you push it past the 18PSI of boost mark. I am glad I did not raise the load cap, because the car wanted to make more power/torque. Could of been very interesting to say the least if I had. Jason

Look at the log I posted in my Stage1 thread. I was only getting 773 psi at 14psi with the stock pump. That's at only 3k miles on the odo.

[Elusivellama]

^
The final reason why earlier today I picked up the phone to CTS Turbo and ordered a set of Autotech Internals. 773psi with just a SRI, TIP and AP.... pitiful stock FP.

[SamInAustinTX]

Should have supported a forum sponsor like edge!

[08.5MS3]

Originally Posted by duappleganger Autotech is the shit. I'm a fucking retard and while I was installing the internals i dropped one half of the retaining clip thingy into the sink and it made it past the u bend. I called autotech and explained to them I was dropped as a child. The dude laughed and they shipped another retaining clip .... FOR FUCKING FREE. Fuck KMD, autotech is the way to go.

I only got this far into the thread. I was on the phone with JP from Edge Auto this evening and he told me of your situation. Pretty awesome story in the end.

[Elusivellama]

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX Should have supported a forum sponsor like edge!

Should have bought Autotechs.

[SamInAustinTX]

Originally Posted by Elusivellama Should have bought Autotechs.

They weren't in stock and I couldn't wait because I had dyno run's scheduled.

[wolly6973]

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX Should have supported a forum sponsor like edge!

CTS is a forum sponsor.

CTS Turbo - Mazdaspeed Forums

[MS3kid08]

I just think its funny how half the people on here are using pumps not made for our cars even and wondering why the companies won't support you.

Just cause the vw parts fit doesn't mean they are correct, and won't cause so kind of funky failure

[jonspeed3]

just throwing this in, kmd v3, have 5k miles and not a single issue, yet. Hopefully never.

PSI hovers in the 1800-1900's during WOT.

[triplejumper18]

Could have been worse and went with PTPenis.

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by MS3kid08 I just think its funny how half the people on here are using pumps not made for our cars even and wondering why the companies won't support you. Just cause the vw parts fit doesn't mean they are correct, and won't cause so kind of funky failure

I think its funny, and sad, that you made this comment. Autotech and KMD have known for years that we use their internals AND the fuel pumps are identical which is why the parts work. I've had discussions with Autotech because they are here in Orange County and they know all the issues which are the same for Mazda, VW and Audi. Its not a simple coincidence that the parts fit. So you are also implying that all the guys using Autotech and KMD are idiots. Very nice of you.

[Mchart]

I've been running mine for over 20k miles and for a year and half now.

I suspect install fail.

[maddocx240]

I just bought a set of kmd internals from the for sale section, hopefully I don't have no issues.. its the v2 model.. can you send your pump to kmd and have them put the internals in?

[dereeek]

Originally Posted by maddocx240 I just bought a set of kmd internals from the for sale section, hopefully I don't have no issues.. its the v2 model.. can you send your pump to kmd and have them put the internals in?

I'm sure you can, but it's simple to do yourself, if you follow the directions correctly.

[Nitr0EngiE]

Originally Posted by skinnydvc Looks like that not one of my options anymore looks like auto tech or cp-e r the way to go

I have tried to tell you people well not you guys specific but ive said before ALL internals suck balls they never get tolerances right and cp-e is the only way to go ...

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE I have tried to tell you people well not you guys specific but ive said before ALL internals suck balls they never get tolerances right and cp-e is the only way to go ...

Yup they all suck, Apparently even the factory ones!

[keefover]

My KMD V2.0's shit the bed. Guess what? It was installer error.

[dooderek]

DONT FORGET YOUR CAM RIDER

[MS3kid08]

Originally Posted by triplejumper18 Could have been worse and went with PTPenis.

How many Ptp failures he u seen lately??? My Ptp pump runs great and lifetime warenteed

[MS3kid08]

I also think its funny how after one batch of bad Ptp pumps everyone hates them but kmds and auto techs fail all the time and have shitty customer service and no warrantee yet you still keep buying them ??

Seems a little retarded to me but jt my .02

[amoosenamedhank]

Originally Posted by SamInAustinTX When there are better options out there. And you're right it doesn't mean people shouldn't buy them, but when their customer service is shit why would anyone want to do business with them. They could have atleast offered a refund seeing as how I was only slightly out of the return policy. Or a place where I could find the oem seal.

You claim their customer service is shit because they didn't refund a part past their return policy... or offer a place where you can purchase something that they don't provide? I'm sure they could have stroked you more than they did.... but listen to what you're saying here.

[SWAY]

Originally Posted by MS3kid08 How many Ptp failures he u seen lately??? My Ptp pump runs great and lifetime warenteed

Youve had them how long??? And when you say lately its bc not many people run them anymore for them to fail. Not all ptp's failed just 99.8% of them, there are still members running them just fine which was a lucky batch real lucky. You obviously dont know about what your talking about. Ill wait and see on the "new and improved" ptp internals before i comment on them.

[G26]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE I have tried to tell you people well not you guys specific but ive said before ALL internals suck balls they never get tolerances right and cp-e is the only way to go ...

Lol, all cpe does is take apr internals and put them in the stock pump derp.

Originally Posted by MS3kid08 I also think its funny how after one batch of bad Ptp pumps everyone hates them but kmds and auto techs fail all the time and have shitty customer service and no warrantee yet you still keep buying them ?? Seems a little retarded to me but jt my .02

Where are all these autotech failures you speak of?

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by MS3kid08 My Penis pump runs great and lifetime warenteed

Fixed

[SofaKingAwesome]

Sam, you get a seal yet? Try a WTB thread. I know @keefover had a parts pump that he just helped someone else out with a fitting on.

[MS3kid08]

I have personally know of at least 5-7 cars within a 50 mile radius I me running Ptp pumps, many of them are members here

[Tokay444]

Ptp is still making and selling pumps.
We don't hear about them here anymore, but two of the highest hp cars of our platform are running his latest generation of internals.
Just sayin'.

[Mchart]

Again, it has everything to do with install. There have been a couple bad batches of internals here and there, but the overall indication is that most pump fail happens due to improper installation.

[bigriver]

Proper maintenance is also important. Another variable is in the coating used on the parts. KMD's current version is coated with titanium carbonitride which is pretty hard and is used in industrial tooling applications.

Autotech uses DLC or diamond like carbon which is also used in industrial tooling and race cars. DLC is much harder than titanium carbonitride, in fact the hardness of DLC hasnt been established because it is harder than natural diamond used in measuring probes.

So in a properly maintained vehicle, the kmd coating should be fine. If its not maintained, parts can start to wear prematurely, but I would expect the DLC to hold up better in the long run if thats the case. So even poor maintenance of the vehicle or even the motor oil could be a factor. I'm not saying this is the OP's case. Just something else to consider besides a bad part or install error.

[keefover]

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome Sam, you get a seal yet? Try a WTB thread. I know @keefover had a parts pump that he just helped someone else out with a fitting on.

I shipped the whole pump. I didn't have the cap and seal though.

[Death-From-A-Mile]

Sam got a pump from me, it will be to him Wednesday.

[maddocx240]

Originally Posted by dereeek I'm sure you can, but it's simple to do yourself, if you follow the directions correctly.

Well with all the complaints and most saying install error its apparently not as simple as it seems, lol.. but I called kmd and they said they will install internals and install. Im gonna do it that way being they are only 45 min away from me. That way its tested and I know it was done right (hopefully). I don't take chances with fueling and engine management, so I will pay the extra cost..

[Tokay444]

Did they say they'd test it?

[maddocx240]

Yup.. hopefully they test it before they put it back in.. but I bought a spare pump for them to put the internals.. but when the internals I bought arrive I will get it done soon after. Or maybe they test it after they put it back in the car, we'll see