Downshift, neutral coast, clutch in coast?

[Tiltsta]

apparently, content is not useful. Ignore.

[TexasSpeed3]

hmmm might end up interesting

[Chimmike]

Downshifting basically makes the engine an air pump, uses no fuel, and requires less brakes to stop. I downshift.

[SleeperHatch]

Originally Posted by chimmike Downshifting basically makes the engine an air pump, uses no fuel, and requires less brakes to stop. I downshift.

Same

[jjthejet]

For me it depends on how sudden the red light is, but I usually downshift.

[Tiltsta]

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[TriO]

I downshift always but just coz I enjoy it

[JustanotherMS3]

rev matching downshift's FTMFW

[327whp]

I mostly just throw it in Neutral and coast to the light to save the clutch and it also betters your gas mileage. Probably why I averaged 27.9mpg for the almost 2yrs I had it.

[forcedinduktion]

I throw it in neutral 90% of time unless im coming up to a light that is stale and is about to change. No need for the extra stress on the drivetrain.

[mazdaspeedemon3]

most of the time i throw it into neutral, but when i feel that urge to use the engines powa rev-matchin down shift ftw!

[intotheice]

leave it in w/e gear i'm in and shift to neutral when the car is about to stall

[helmetface]

Wait ...you shift?

[Ezekiel81923]

Throw it in neutral. Brakes are cheaper than clutches.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel81923 Throw it in neutral. Brakes are cheaper than clutches.

Sorry to call you out..but I love these peoples signitures..

"In the Mail: DDM 8k HIDs | JBR RMM | JBR SSP/Bushings/Knob | Autotech internals"


DD 8K HID's..


MSF has become more about brag than speed.

[Naaman]

I go to neutral most of the time, but I'll downshift if I know a light is about to change or I want to have just a little more fun.

[Chimmike]

Originally Posted by 327whp I mostly just throw it in Neutral and coast to the light to save the clutch and it also betters your gas mileage. Probably why I averaged 27.9mpg for the almost 2yrs I had it.

downshifting and using engine braking uses ZERO fuel. coasting in neutral=idling=using fuel.....so uh, it doesn't better your mileage.

Also, wear on the clutch? There's less wear on the clutch during engine braking than there is in acceleration, and FAR less than wide open throttle.

Originally Posted by Ezekiel81923 Throw it in neutral. Brakes are cheaper than clutches.

and knowledge is something you're lacking. Please move on.

BTW, your stopping distance via downshifting and hard braking is shorter than that of throwing yer shit in neutral and braking. Hope you throw it in neutral and rear-end a semi.

[Spoofmastafly]

Do you guys use your starter? I always push start my car and pop the clutch.. Don't wanna wear out my starter.

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted by Spoofmastafly Do you guys use your starter? I always push start my car and pop the clutch.. Don't wanna wear out my starter.

good point, I've done away with the starter completely. weight reduction!

[Chimmike]

Originally Posted by Spoofmastafly Do you guys use your starter? I always push start my car and pop the clutch.. Don't wanna wear out my starter.

/thread

[IHIERBal]

Originally Posted by helmetfail Sorry to call you out..but I love these peoples signitures.. "In the Mail: DDM 8k HIDs | JBR RMM | JBR SSP/Bushings/Knob | Autotech internals" DD 8K HID's.. MSF has become more about brag than speed.

Don't mean to start any arguments, but I just list the stuff I have for reference. If I see somebody list something that I'm interested in maybe getting or thoughts about a certain product I see somebody have, I shoot them a PM.

[blue 2011]

i hardly ever downshift but did not know u are not using fuel when down shifting so will probly start now

[GoBackToSleep]

Neutral most of the time unless I'm driving downhill. In my day-to-day urban/suburban driving, I will have a lot less time to react to douchebags on the road during my commutes to and from work if I worry about downshifting all the time. Yeah, it uses no fuel and it helps save brakes but I'll save my downshifting work for emptier roads or the track (if I ever get around to visiting one).

[ahfunaki]

Originally Posted by IHIERBal Don't mean to start any arguments, but I just list the stuff I have for reference. If I see somebody list something that I'm interested in maybe getting or thoughts about a certain product I see somebody have, I shoot them a PM.

Yep, same here...

[Chimmike]

Originally Posted by GoBackToSleep Neutral most of the time unless I'm driving downhill. In my day-to-day urban/suburban driving, I will have a lot less time to react to douchebags on the road during my commutes to and from work if I worry about downshifting all the time. Yeah, it uses no fuel and it helps save brakes but I'll save my downshifting work for emptier roads or the track (if I ever get around to visiting one).

if you have to think about shifting, you're doing it wrong.

Also, as stated above, coasting in neutral requires more braking effort, downshifting, even if staying in, say, 3rd gear and slamming the brakes will stop quicker.

[GoBackToSleep]

Originally Posted by chimmike if you have to think about shifting, you're doing it wrong. Also, as stated above, coasting in neutral requires more braking effort, downshifting, even if staying in, say, 3rd gear and slamming the brakes will stop quicker.

When I drive the car (I've been driving only manual transmissions for six years now), I never have to think about shifting or going into the right gear in general (it's automatic with my mind and body, I suppose), whether it's an upshift or downshift. When it comes to braking, I only tend to do a downshift on downgrades. If I'm driving slowly enough (say I'm in second or third gear), I'd just leave it in that gear to help ease the braking process until I'm a few miles an hour away from a complete stop. Other than that, I guess I'm a bitch for throwing it in neutral but I do know how to rev-match downshift if that helps anything... hahaha.

[mrmonk7663]

Downshifting instead of using breaks/neutral has a tendency to force more oil/fuel into the intake manifold. This is combatted with an oil catch can, but it is still present to some degree. For this reason, I use neutral and brake unless there is a reason I need to downshift.

[Adog35]

Heel toe every where I drive. Can't stand to use neutral unless I'm sitting at a light.

[SLOWHATCH]

Originally Posted by intotheice leave it in w/e gear i'm in and shift to neutral when the car is about to stall

This is what I do.

Originally Posted by IHIERBal Don't mean to start any arguments, but I just list the stuff I have for reference. If I see somebody list something that I'm interested in maybe getting or thoughts about a certain product I see somebody have, I shoot them a PM.

Don't mind him, he's just bitter because he has no mods or has to spend all his money on maintenance for his gendone. I'd be mad too.

[robry]

Originally Posted by 327whp I mostly just throw it in Neutral and coast to the light to save the clutch and it also betters your gas mileage. Probably why I averaged 27.9mpg for the almost 2yrs I had it.

actually, when the clutch is engaged and your are completely off the throttle coasting, the ecu turns the injectors off, thus using 0 gas.

idling up to a stop light with the car in neutral would use more fuel, as you are keeping the engine running.

one might suggest that as long as you rev match on the downshift, you aren't putting any major stress on the clutch material.

[zpele]

This thread made me lol.

Its been covered but shit- downshifting uses less gas so yous guys are gay.

Also, not downshifting because it gives you less time to react to idiots is just about the stupidest thing I may have ever heard.

And to think you actually track the car.... Your times must be amazing.

[Chimmike]

Originally Posted by robry actually, when the clutch is engaged and your are completely off the throttle coasting, the ecu turns the injectors off, thus using 0 gas. idling up to a stop light with the car in neutral would use more fuel, as you are keeping the engine running. one might suggest that as long as you rev match on the downshift, you aren't putting any major stress on the clutch material.

lmao, how do you figure coasting in neutral shuts off the injectors? Ever look at your AFRs while coasting in neutral? Stoich. I.e., FUEL BEING INJECTED!

How do you think the engine stays running, asshat? hopes and dreams?

lmao.

[robry]

I should clarify, I meant engine breaking IN gear....

[GoBackToSleep]

Thanks to this thread, now I'm finding myself rev-matched downshifting more when approaching stops. My morning commute was full of them, despite the asshats on the road I complained about. Whether I'm neutral-coasting or downshifting, though, I still see people pretty much ride up toward my rear bumper (and, in some cases, tapping me) because they don't understand I don't have to use my brakes all the time to stop. Bastards. 'Tis the life of the "point A to B" automatic-transmission driver...

[Ezekiel81923]

This has been very educational.

I'm going to go rear-end a semi now.

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel81923 This has been very educational. I'm going to go rear-end a semi now.

K bud. Good luck with that...

[JDR767]

Originally Posted by GoBackToSleep Thanks to this thread, now I'm finding myself rev-matched downshifting more when approaching stops. My morning commute was full of them, despite the asshats on the road I complained about. Whether I'm neutral-coasting or downshifting, though, I still see people pretty much ride up toward my rear bumper (and, in some cases, tapping me) because they don't understand I don't have to use my brakes all the time to stop. Bastards. 'Tis the life of the "point A to B" automatic-transmission driver...

As with on a motorcycle...tapping the bake just enough to light it up to let the asshat behind you know you are indeed slowing down should help keep unwanted people out of your backseat.

[drknyte]

Does no one here throw it in reverse? You can stop on a dime like that and if you use your brakes @ the same time and time it right you can do frront flips for style points!

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by drknyte Does no one here throw it in reverse? You can stop on a dime like that and if you use your brakes @ the same time and time it right you can do frront flips for style points!

I was gonna write something, then I wasn't, then I saw this and thought ok. Yeah I like having a synchomesh reverse gear. I don't think I've every had a car that had this. I like going the other way too, going in reverse out of a parking spot, then at -10mph, revving into the launch controller and slippin the clutch real good. Makes lots of noise and popping and shit and is fun to burn the clutch up a little bit sometimes without actually making forward progress. Really.

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by chimmike downshifting and using engine braking uses ZERO fuel. coasting in neutral=idling=using fuel.....so uh, it doesn't better your mileage.

^^ this

Usually I just apply brake, leaving vehicle in gear. Brakes are cheaper than clutches and yes fuel is not consumed if car is IN GEAR and still moving.

What about THIS you guys? How many of you can drive without using the clutch? I mean you HAVE to to get moving in 1st but I've driven all the way to work, 10 miles in city traffic, without using the clutch except to get moving. If done properly you can get it grindless.