Evo X Wheels on Gen 2

[drenkel]

Just bought a set of 18x8.5 Evo X wheels... I'm tired of spinning 2nd and 3rd... I want more traction!!!!

I've been searching for hours and there is no consistency... the Evo X wheels are 18x8.5 with a 38MM offset. I'm putting Nitto NT05 245/40/18 rubber on them. Some people say there is no rubbing on a Gen 2, some people say you just have to grind the metal part on the back, and some people say you have to roll the back fenders.

Have any of you installed Evo X wheels on a Gen 2? What did YOU have to do to make them fit? I'm trying to get a straight answer from someone who is ACTUALLY RUNNING THIS SETUP.

Thanks for the advise in advance!

[Roddiy]

I actually would like to know (after you get this done of course) how much of a difference going 245/40s makes on traction on 2nd and 3rd gears.

[ahfunaki]

This is BeeZaa's car and this is what he says about the wheels:

"Tires on there currently are 235/45/18, it rubs in the rear over hard bumps. I haven't got a chance to roll the fenders yet."

Original post: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ml#post1254740

[xb2ms3]

I'm running 245/40 and as far as I know it doesn't rub but fingering the fender well I can tell it has touched.

[rgz]

It all depends on your suspension. Stock? Probably won't rub

[drenkel]

Ya stock suspension, not lowered at all.

Thanks for the responses guys, feel a lot better about the purchase now.

@Roddiy If 2 extra inches of rubber and tires that are basically slicks dont fix my traction issues I don't know what will lol. I bet I grip like a mother fucker after I get this finished.

[Seaton]

I just put some NT05s on... they are awesome for the price

[ahfunaki]

I wish these wheels were better looking. I actually know a guy that has a set for sale I just don't know if I'd want to spend the money on them when I could get a better looking wheel for a similar price.

I just really like the width and offset of these wheels. And that they are a quality wheel...

[kritz]

@Darksun280

Will these wheels make the pu faster?

[Darksun280]

Looks horrible. Buy an Evo

[drenkel]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Looks horrible. Buy an Evo

Race someone with a better setup and eat some Genpu dust

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by drenkel Race someone with a better setup and eat some Genpu dust

I actually laughed

[drenkel]

@Darksun280

Glad I could provide entertainment for you Darkie =P I don't know Kritz and I'm sure he's a great driver but, but he was only making 320 WHP. You had him before it even started. However, have plenty of GenPu's on here making enough power to eat you alive so don't let it go to your head!

As a side note, I really do like the EVO's, but at the price point the Mazdas are just too much bang for the buck. Stock for stock you can save ~14K and have the same amount of power and a nicer interior.

In a few years after I get my house paid off I plan on buying a GT-R, and just for you Darkie, I'll make the drive up to NY and show you what a TRUE turbo AWD car should be able to accomplish

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by drenkel @Darksun280 Glad I could provide entertainment for you Darkie =P I don't know Kritz and I'm sure he's a great driver but, but he was only making 320 WHP. You had him before it even started. However, have plenty of GenPu's on here making enough power to eat you alive so don't let it go to your head! As a side note, I really do like the EVO's, but at the price point the Mazdas are just too much bang for the buck. Stock for stock you can save ~14K and have the same amount of power and a nicer interior. In a few years after I get my house paid off I plan on buying a GT-R, and just for you Darkie, I'll make the drive up to NY and show you what a TRUE turbo AWD car should be able to accomplish

No such thing as a fast Genpu.

and

I eat Gt-R's

[drenkel]

Stock EVO X - 13.2 - 1/4 mile
Stock GT-R - 11.5 - 1/4 mile

Stock EVO X 0-60: 4.9
Stock GT-R 0-60: 2.9

You do the math =P

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by drenkel Stock EVO X - 13.2 - 1/4 mile Stock GT-R - 11.5 - 1/4 mile Stock EVO X 0-60: 4.9 Stock GT-R 0-60: 2.9 You do the math =P

Good thing I'm not stock. I almost got worried there for a second.

[xb2ms3]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Good thing I'm not stock. I almost got worried their for a second.

sooooo what color are your wheels
championship gold ?

I do like me some gold wheels

[kunfu]

I would love to find me some Evo X wheels at a good price. What have you guys been paying for them used?

[ahfunaki]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 I eat Gt-R's

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Good thing I'm not stock. I almost got worried their for a second.

Out of curiosity, specs / dyno / 1/4 mile times?

[Darksun280]

Originally Posted by kunfu I would love to find me some Evo X wheels at a good price. What have you guys been paying for them used?

First born child. Hell of a deal if you ask me....

Originally Posted by ahfunaki Out of curiosity, specs / dyno / 1/4 mile times?

Fast/ Fast / Fast

[drenkel]

Based off the races I saw posted I'd guess he's putting down somewhere in the neightborhood of 260 - 380 WHP... nowhere close to a stock GT-R

[fishin53]

have a couple of pic in this thread

just got these babies | SpeedForums.org

they dont rub unless i hit a big speed bump or have 2 people in the back seat.

this is with the 245's on them im gonna get 235's for this summer.

[ahfunaki]

Originally Posted by fishin53 have a couple of pic in this thread just got these babies | SpeedForums.org they dont rub unless i hit a big speed bump or have 2 people in the back seat. this is with the 245's on them im gonna get 235's for this summer.

Nice, good thread with some more pics.

These look really good!

[drenkel]

Just went down and ordered some Nitto NT05's 245/40/18 from Discount Tire - The guy did a little measuring and thinks with the 38mm offset of the Evo X wheels they shouldnt rub. They should be flush with the fenders, maybe stick out past the fenders just a little bit. We'll see how it goes. I'll make sure to post up details to others who are thinking of running this setup.

Here's the tires I got:


Here's the rims: (I got Mazda emblems for the center instead of the Mitsu)


Will post pics of car once they are installed. Should be about a week for everything to get here. All in all if everything works out I should be putting down 2" of more rubber, better gripping tires, and lose about 5 Lbs of rotational mass per tire. Hope this cures my spinning in 2nd and 3rd!

[xb2ms3]

probably wont help much in 2nd

where did you get the mazda centercaps btw
the centercaps from the stockers are too small for the evo wheels

[drenkel]

No idea about the center caps. I got the rims from another forum member and he has the Mazda caps on them already.

[xb2ms3]

who'd you buy them from ?

I NEED those

[drenkel]

Originally Posted by xb2ms3 who'd you buy them from ? I NEED those

Now that my ban was lifted (tried to sell my old rims without taking them off car first) I can answer your question.

The Gen 2 center caps fit the EVO X tires perfectly. Diddnt have to buy anything special.

The rims I bought had one area of pretty bad curb rash, and dings and chips all over the other wheels and I got tired of looking at them. I got a hair up my ass and went to Autozone and decided to completely redo the rims since my rubber doesnt come in until Tuesday.

I grinded down all the chips with a dremmel, grinded the big curb rash out as well, and used 180 grit sand paper to smooth all the other imperfections out. I then used JB weld to fill in the areas of curb rash where there was actual metal missing from the rim. After all this, I used 320 grit sand paper and completely went over every inch of the rims.

I've never done this kind of work before, but I must say it was much easier that I expected. Just took alot of time, patience, and elbow grease. The wheels look flawless now, but they are unfinished. And here's the part I'm scared of lol because I've never painted rims before, and have heard both good and bad stories about painting them. From what I gather it's all about the prep. After I got all the imperfections out I spent a good 3 hours hitting every nook and crannie with 320 grit paper.

From Autozone I bought 2 cans of primer / sealer, 2 cans of enamel wheel paint, and 2 cans of enamel gloss clear coat.

I know I need to give them a good washing, then use lacquer on the rims before I start the process, and have a clean enviornment ( Gonna do it in the garage with the door closed and a mask on).

Anyone here that has rattle canned their rims before have any tips they would like to share? I know go light on the first coat, then heavier on the 2nd & 3rd coats... spray 8-10" away from the rim in an even back and forth motion... all the tips you can find on this site ect... and extra pro tips you might offer though? I love the color paint I bought for these, and I really want it to turn out looking bad ass when I get them installed on Tuesday.

BTW... I weighted the EVO X rim... they are 22.8 lbs.. the Nitto NT05's are about 2.5 Lbs lighter than the stock potenzas... so I'll be losing about 5-6 Lbs of rotational mass per wheel - so besides the fact that they are gonna look awesome, acceleration should be improved too!

I'll make sure to post up pics for everyone when it's all done, thanks in advance for any advice you guys offer.

[forcedinduktion]

comparing an evo to gtr, LOL

[xb2ms3]

Originally Posted by drenkel Now that my ban was lifted (tried to sell my old rims without taking them off car first) I can answer your question. The Gen 2 center caps fit the EVO X tires perfectly. Diddnt have to buy anything special. The rims I bought had one area of pretty bad curb rash, and dings and chips all over the other wheels and I got tired of looking at them. I got a hair up my ass and went to Autozone and decided to completely redo the rims since my rubber doesnt come in until Tuesday. I grinded down all the chips with a dremmel, grinded the big curb rash out as well, and used 180 grit sand paper to smooth all the other imperfections out. I then used JB weld to fill in the areas of curb rash where there was actual metal missing from the rim. After all this, I used 320 grit sand paper and completely went over every inch of the rims. I've never done this kind of work before, but I must say it was much easier that I expected. Just took alot of time, patience, and elbow grease. The wheels look flawless now, but they are unfinished. And here's the part I'm scared of lol because I've never painted rims before, and have heard both good and bad stories about painting them. From what I gather it's all about the prep. After I got all the imperfections out I spent a good 3 hours hitting every nook and crannie with 320 grit paper. From Autozone I bought 2 cans of primer / sealer, 2 cans of enamel wheel paint, and 2 cans of enamel gloss clear coat. I know I need to give them a good washing, then use lacquer on the rims before I start the process, and have a clean enviornment ( Gonna do it in the garage with the door closed and a mask on). Anyone here that has rattle canned their rims before have any tips they would like to share? I know go light on the first coat, then heavier on the 2nd & 3rd coats... spray 8-10" away from the rim in an even back and forth motion... all the tips you can find on this site ect... and extra pro tips you might offer though? I love the color paint I bought for these, and I really want it to turn out looking bad ass when I get them installed on Tuesday. BTW... I weighted the EVO X rim... they are 22.8 lbs.. the Nitto NT05's are about 2.5 Lbs lighter than the stock potenzas... so I'll be losing about 5-6 Lbs of rotational mass per wheel - so besides the fact that they are gonna look awesome, acceleration should be improved too! I'll make sure to post up pics for everyone when it's all done, thanks in advance for any advice you guys offer.

evo center caps are not same size as genpu caps
evo center caps are bigger

[drenkel]

Originally Posted by xb2ms3 evo center caps are not same size as genpu caps evo center caps are bigger

Maybe yours are... but mine fit.. as you can see by the picture above...

[ahfunaki]

Originally Posted by xb2ms3 evo center caps are not same size as genpu caps evo center caps are bigger

I wonder if genwon caps are any different?

[drenkel]

Got em refinished and painted.... They look freaking amazing. At the tire shop now getting the rubber put on. I'll post up pics and let yall know if I had any fitment issues in a few hours. Fingers crossed!

[drenkel]

Fitment is perfect. With the front tires turned all the way I still have 1/4" before they touch the side wall. As long as I don't hit a speed bump hard while my tires are turned all the way I'll be just fine lol.

Please note I'm on stock suspension, if you are lowered this setup WILL NOT work for you.

EVO X 18/40/8.5 Rims
Nitto 245/40/18 NT05 Tires

I've completely eliminated ALL wheel spin in every gear except first. I used to spin 1-3rd. Now 2nd & 3 have zero spin, just pure zoom zoom acceleration loving!

As for the ride quality, I was expecting a stiffer ride. It's actually very smooth, I was surprised but road noise is at a minimum it's a very smooth ride. I absolutely love them.

Here are the pics:

[chintastic]

i would wanna try these wheels but im gonna lower my car on swift springs and koni yellows and i doubt theyll work for me....maybe if i do 235s instead of 245s

[xb2ms3]

Originally Posted by chintastic i would wanna try these wheels but im gonna lower my car on swift springs and koni yellows and i doubt theyll work for me....maybe if i do 235s instead of 245s

Let me know if you wanna do a test fitment with my wheels after you lower it.

[chintastic]

Originally Posted by xb2ms3 Let me know if you wanna do a test fitment with my wheels after you lower it.

thatll be awesome

[drenkel]

Ok, I officially change my opinion of getting this setup installed on your car. I've been pulled over for speeding TWICE since these tires have been installed.

There is just so much fucking grip I cant get over the rush of being able to pound it in 2nd and third again. Body gets forced back into the seat, the turbo starts singing it's love tune....

Luckily I was let off with a warning both times because the cops recognized who I was.

This car is just too much fucking fun to drive now. Gonna have to pay extra close attention to how fast I'm going though. When your WOT that speedo just shoots up so fucking fast lol. Since I didn't get tickets I imposed my own punishment. No WOTs for me for a week. That should stick in my brain.

Sorry for the rant, u can go back to reading the bimmer porn thread now lol.

[xb2ms3]

Originally Posted by drenkel Maybe yours are... but mine fit.. as you can see by the picture above...

I noticed that you have your stockers with center caps for sale in the fs section.

Meaning that you did not fit your stock mazda center caps on your evo x wheels. I already knew this, not sure why you would lie about it.

It'd be very nice of you share where you got those center caps.

[2k4_8]

Maybe rx8 center caps? Mine looked very similar in size.