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What was the name of the color that you used for the wheels? Was it just gunmetal rattle can?
I think the wheels look sick, my buddy has an evo x I have to look at those wheels all the time lol.
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Originally Posted by xb2ms3 View Post
I noticed that you have your stockers with center caps for sale in the fs section.

Meaning that you did not fit your stock mazda center caps on your evo x wheels. I already knew this, not sure why you would lie about it.

It'd be very nice of you share where you got those center caps.
Are you dense? Read post 26 again. Here, I'll even quote it for you:

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No idea about the center caps. I got the rims from another forum member and he has the Mazda caps on them already.
Just because yours don't fit don't mean his diddnt. No reason to be a douche and call me a liar. My stock caps fit, and so did the caps he sent me with the rims.

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What was the name of the color that you used for the wheels? Was it just gunmetal rattle can?
I think the wheels look sick, my buddy has an evo x I have to look at those wheels all the time lol.
Ya, just used gunmetal rattle can Turned out great, after a week no chips or anything. Make sure you get the enamel, and enamel clear coat as well to make the coating tougher.
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Originally Posted by drenkel View Post
Are you dense? Read post 26 again. Here, I'll even quote it for you:

Just because yours don't fit don't mean his diddnt. No reason to be a douche and call me a liar. My stock caps fit, and so did the caps he sent me with the rims.
Gen 2 center caps don't fit evo x wheels regardless if it was yours/his/hers/Jesus'

Why don't you read your own post lieing faggot.

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evo center caps are not same size as genpu caps
evo center caps are bigger
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Maybe yours are... but mine fit.. as you can see by the picture above...
To be fair I did ask you nicely at first.

How much power did you say you're making on the k04?
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Originally Posted by xb2ms3 View Post
Gen 2 center caps don't fit evo x wheels regardless if it was yours/his/hers/Jesus'

Why don't you read your own post lieing faggot.

Originally Posted by xb2ms3 View Post
evo center caps are not same size as genpu caps
evo center caps are bigger


To be fair I did ask you nicely at first.

How much power did you say you're making on the k04?
Ur an idiot, and have been added to the ignore list. His caps fit, my caps fit, and your a douche.

Oh, it's also spelled "lying", unless of course you meant want to lay down with me, which would make you the faggot.
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lol I just caught your ass in a lie and all you can point out is that I spelled something wrong?

Still sticking with the "genpu caps fit" story? Fags gonna fag I guess.

This goes well for your credibility on your ridiculous claims of power you make on the stock k04 with no meth or e85.
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What the...???? Why all the hostility on this forum?
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What the...???? Why all the hostility on this forum?
He's mad because his caps don't fit, and the rims I bought came with caps that do fit. Because he diddnt get the answer he wanted, he showed his true doucheness =P

Lots of angry kids on this forum that wanna be keyboard warriors. Just gotta add em to the ignore list one at a time and eventually you don't have to listen the the bullshit anymore
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Yeah I'm just a 32 year old kid.

I just like to call out liars on their bullshit and watch them squirm.

I got news for you babygirl, if the genpu caps fit, they ain't evo x wheels.
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Lol damn....
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Wow. This is seriously the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen someone get pissed off about...
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Wow agreed, hostility for no reason, regardless the caps fit the previous owner coulda ground em down a little or whatever. Who the fuck cares.
But yeah about the paint thanks for clarifying, think I'm gonna gunmetal my pu wheels (black genpu) so thats cool. I'll def get the enamel, and we gotta redo my friends rsx-s and make sure he does a better clearcoat this time lol.
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Originally Posted by xb2ms3 View Post
Yeah I'm just a 32 year old kid.

I just like to call out liars on their bullshit and watch them squirm.

I got news for you babygirl, if the genpu caps fit, they ain't evo x wheels.
I was just about to say... I sometimes feel like old (I'm 34) on this forum with the way people communicate with each other. However this is, by far, the best Speed3 related forum and I'm glad it exists. I just wish there was less drama and foul-mouthed name calling. Now...*get off my lawn!*
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Nice set up. I picked up a mint set for an amazing price. I actually like the way they look without the center caps. I plan on painting my wheel hubs black before mounting them and going capless.
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Theres no drama, just wanted to point out that the OP is moron. I'm guessing he's under the drinking age.

I'm not sure why he insists "his" stock wheel center caps fit on the evo x wheels when obviously they don't and he's never test fitted them since he's selling his wheels with the center caps in the fs section.

I called him a liar and he responds by pointing out my spelling error on one word. He's still sticking with "well mine fit".

This moron is also claiming that he's making 342 whp / 387 wtq on pump gas.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...s-left-106689/

He lists wheels/tires as a power mod....this ones a winner.
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@xb2ms3,

sorry to bring this back but I'll comment on the center cap issue.

I got evo x wheels yesterday (the enkeis, from a 2008 gsr) and my center caps fit from my genwon wheels (2007 gt). I don't know if it's an issue with the years or what, but mine were actually a very tight fit and i had to hit them in with a hammer to get them to seat. I'm not sure what issue you're having exactly but mine go in and stay in. I don't know what to tell you about yours because mine went in, from my stock wheels to the evo stock wheels. @drenkel didn't put his in so he may not know where they came from, but I'm guaranteeing you that MINE fit.
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@xb2ms3,

sorry to bring this back but I'll comment on the center cap issue.

I got evo x wheels yesterday (the enkeis, from a 2008 gsr) and my center caps fit from my genwon wheels (2007 gt). I don't know if it's an issue with the years or what, but mine were actually a very tight fit and i had to hit them in with a hammer to get them to seat. I'm not sure what issue you're having exactly but mine go in and stay in. I don't know what to tell you about yours because mine went in, from my stock wheels to the evo stock wheels. @drenkel didn't put his in so he may not know where they came from, but I'm guaranteeing you that MINE fit.
Thanks for chiming in, that makes alot of sense.

Being the douchebag that Drenkel is, he didnt even bother to check it before saying the center caps from his wheels fit. We both have genpus.

Its the blatant disinformation that was annoying me.
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Thread is not that old.

I have a set of EVO X rims and planned on swapping my gen 2 center caps over to the EVO rims but the caps are way to small, "they fall right through the evo rims."

So my question is what Mazda center caps actually fit the EVO x rims.
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Center caps off the gen 1 wheels
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I paid $600 for mint Evo X wheels with the stock Advan tires (95% tread left).

The gen1 center caps fit nice and snug too.

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Originally Posted by 3Gee Tee View Post
I paid $600 for mint Evo X wheels with the stock Advan tires (95% tread left).

The gen1 center caps fit nice and snug too.

Damn dude that's a damn good deal

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Originally Posted by xb2ms3 View Post
Center caps off the gen 1 wheels
Hate to Necro post but I experienced the situation with the GenPu caps not fitting on the Evo X rims because they are too small.

I ordered some 57mm/2.2" Mazda center caps from Ebay. Hopefully they will fit.
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I have asked the same question. I have a completely stock 2013 MS3 and threw the evo X rims with NITTO - NT01 245/40ZR18 tires on and they fit nice. Only problem is there is a bit of rubbing in hard cornering so I took them off. My rims came off a 2010 Evo XMR and I believe they would fit perfectly if I put a thinner tier on the 245 is just to wide to fit this car unless all your doing is driving in straight lines.

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Originally Posted by IamMattMoses View Post
I have asked the same question. I have a completely stock 2013 MS3 and threw the evo X rims with NITTO - NT01 245/40ZR18 tires on and they fit nice. Only problem is there is a bit of rubbing in hard cornering so I took them off. My rims came off a 2010 Evo XMR and I believe they would fit perfectly if I put a thinner tier on the 245 is just to wide to fit this car unless all your doing is driving in straight lines.

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Evo X MR O.E.M. BBS Forged Wheels
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5x114.3 bolt pattern
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67.1mm bore
19lbs

If you are lowered at all, you will have to do a fairly extreme roll, pull, and some tab cutting. I am thinking that a 35 series might work better.
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If you are lowered at all, you will have to do a fairly extreme roll, pull, and some tab cutting. I am thinking that a 35 series might work better.
Nope as stated before completely stock absolutely nothing done to the car. I imagine a fender roll would do the trick. only rubs when taking hard corners. So they "fit" but only if you drive in straight lines and take it easy on turns.
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Nope as stated before completely stock absolutely nothing done to the car. I imagine a fender roll would do the trick. only rubs when taking hard corners. So they "fit" but only if you drive in straight lines and take it easy on turns.
Well rubbing is an indication that there is a fitment issue.
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Well rubbing is an indication that there is a fitment issue.
obviously
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Well anywhoo, my more immediate concern is trying to find some center caps, other than the mitsubishi ones, to use. I would like to get them with a Mazda logo.
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Or you could just dremel off the Mitsubishi logo and super glue those ebay stick on caps like I did.
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Funny i like the evo wheels better on the speed than the evo!
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Funny i like the evo wheels better on the speed than the evo!
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So what is a good tire size to go with the wheels with a stock suspension gen pu?
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Or you could just dremel off the Mitsubishi logo and super glue those ebay stick on caps like I did.
Ebay stick on Caps?

I think I will try to find someone with w 3d printer and see how it goes.


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So what is a good tire size to go with the wheels with a stock suspension gen pu?
Seriously?
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I think I will try to find someone with w 3d printer and see how it goes.




Seriously?
How come you don't use some gen 1 caps. That what I'm using and I haven't had any problems since the day I installed them.

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How come you don't use some gen 1 caps. That what I'm using and I haven't had any problems since the day I installed them.

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I tried Gen 1 caps. First of all, they don't exactly fit perfectly. Second, most of the tabs broke while trying to put them in place. Then Gen 2 caps are too small.
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This was a good place to post this. My Evo wheel setup with 3d printed center caps. The rusty center bores are pretty ugly IMO. You can't see well in my picture, caps are a bit textured from the printer. .01" resolution. I'm liking the rough texture for now. I just shot primer and gloss black on them before putting them on. Very tight fit. Edit: 59mm front and 53mm back clip are the specs.
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