2014 mazda3 looks like a friggign SUV.. It's far from being a sporty hatch.

100k warranty on that POS too. You don't have to worry about anything breaking as it won't reach break neck speed.

He got a approved on Hyundai. We tried every dealership around Chicago area. They are looking for the same things...co-signer and big $$ down. That's why we are surprised he got the brand new Veloster. He was pretty stoked that's why he couldn't say no. No cash $1000 cash down..and $340/month.. That's not bad..for his credit. He doesn't have any credit history. I tried to tell him get a cheap reliable car for now..then build up the credit. I hate the car..but in his situation.. I guess..I'll let him be.

Edit.. he got the Veloster for $17550 if I'm not mistaken..

We tried this, when we did not get approved on the speed3..but unfortunately.. we weren't approved either..

That's a nice Hyundai......

SAID NO REAL MAN EVER!

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how anyone can look at the veloster and honestly say "That's a good looking car"... It's absolutely hideous. Is that ducting leading underneath the headlights even doing anything, or is it pointless?

An optioned out 3 is disgustingly close in price to the MS3, you won't find many near the MSRP for bare bones on dealer lots so that is understandable.

Same way with WRX, Focus ST, Toyobaru BRZ/FRS - they all end up near 30k with those tantalizing 24k MSRPs.

That is why the MS3 is still the king of the bang-for-the-buck. Loaded up tech for under 25k with no haggling right now. Hopefully he can establish some credit in the next year paying for that hideous contraption and trade in for a real car without too much negative equity.

This. I'm gonna make sure he pays his bills on time. And don't do much modding on the Veloster..he's trying to do intake and exhaust.. Hel'll try to build his credit in a year..


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Talk him out of doing an intake and exhaust.
He won't really see a performance gain, but rather just sound.
It will give him more of a reason to get on it to hear the car's intake/exhaust, resulting in less mpgs lol

Yep, I've mentioned this before, but one of our Nator guys has a brother with an FRS. Piggyback ECU, intake, full exhaust - and it still put down 168/138 on the dyno.

I felt terrible for him, but I had to laugh.

Damn.. Those are terrible numbers.. I could imagine for the Veloster.. He just wanted to sound fast for now..hopefully just intake, exhaust and a good set of tires/wheels..and he'll be good.. After a year..stock it out and trade it for a speed..better yet for a gen3 speed.. :)


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Financially, i would advise against that. You never get your money back stocking out. Also, why get rid of perfectly good wheels and tires so you can carry around additional unspring mass, slowing down the car.

As far as sound. Its rice. Please don't.

If everyone had same tastes, nobody would get what they want. Everyone just needs to think about it like this. Having shittier cars on the road, makes ours look better.