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rfinkle2 09-27-2011 08:53 AM

I know the beginning is a bit technical, but the meat of the document is Cobb's recommended upgrade path:

http://accessecu.com/support/docs/su...%20Support.pdf

Jake5713 09-28-2011 12:54 PM

Bump
Any other recommendations thinking TBE now

adrager622 09-30-2011 09:24 AM

I would get the HPFP (EA has a sale for AT internals going on right now) as well as a DP. That would free up the restricted stock DP and definitely net some good HP gains, especially allowing you to run a stage 2 map. I would definitely do that before getting coils or an upgraded IC. Plus, leaves some extra cash in your pocket if you have that much to play around with.

ASHMS3 09-30-2011 10:05 AM

He already has internals, at least according to his sig.

Jake5713 09-30-2011 11:29 AM

I have internals
I wanna do TBE what DP do you guys recommend?

adlpb 09-30-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake5713 (Post 1066371)
I have internals
I wanna do TBE what DP do you guys recommend?

Depends on what you're willing to pay and what setup you want.

If you want to replace your DP+TP (long DP) look into:
CNT (cheapest) offered in catted and catless
Cobb catted
cp-e catted/catless

If you only want the upper portion look into
UR (catted in metal and ceramic choices, catless)
CS (catted/catless)

Cobb, cp-e and UR will not throw CEL codes, but you can always clear them with your AP anyway if you go with the other brands.

Mizzle 09-30-2011 11:43 AM

Suspension. A car that handles well is more fun.

Grumpyjap 09-30-2011 11:50 AM

COBB or cp-e, less connection = less restriction = happier turbo

Design 09-30-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzle (Post 1066392)
Suspension. A car that handles well is more fun.

This is not the Gen 1 we're talking about here. :) Aside from some inherent understeer, the Gen 2 tuning is nearly perfect out of the box. If anything, a rear sway bar or wider tires (IMO).

Tokay444 09-30-2011 07:06 PM

Anyone have evidence that a cpe or Cobb dp net more gains than a cnt for half the price, and does cx actually make a dp @adlpb

adlpb 09-30-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 1066913)
Anyone have evidence that a cpe or Cobb dp net more gains than a cnt for half the price, and does cx actually make a dp @adlpb

Thanks for that I mixed up the names. To many companies here start with the letter C. Lol. It should have been CNT, not CX

Jake5713 09-30-2011 07:59 PM

is cnt's DP for the gen 2
Link?
thanks
looking at this point for a cheap one piece DP doesn't seem like name brand matters too much
don't want to spent 500 for a DP

adlpb 09-30-2011 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake5713 (Post 1066971)
is cnt's DP for the gen 2
Link?
thanks
looking at this point for a cheap one piece DP doesn't seem like name brand matters too much
don't want to spent 500 for a DP

http://www.cntracing.com/category_s/36.htm

Jake5713 09-30-2011 09:55 PM

Thanks

Jake5713 09-30-2011 10:10 PM

So besides $$$$ is there really a difference between the cobb and CNT DP?

adlpb 10-01-2011 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake5713 (Post 1067049)
So besides $$$$ is there really a difference between the cobb and CNT DP?

Installing the CNT DP is more complicated from what I've read because of how the upper part is designed. It will also throw a CEL code.

Other than that it should be similar performance wise. At least until you go BT. I know the Cobb DP is good with that, not sure if the CNT one is designed for 400+hp, maybe someone can input on that.

Tokay444 10-01-2011 06:28 AM

It won't throw a cell if it's catted.

3" dp is a 3" dp is a 3" dp....
Doesn't cobb's taper?

rfinkle2 10-01-2011 06:31 AM

I know I've read some people having to hack off the flange on the gen2 to mate it with certain exhausts. (CNT)

I'd say that my test pipe made the biggest gains exhaust wise on my car.

I see almost no difference with my catted dp, although I'm sure it isn't hurting performance.

adlpb 10-01-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 1067206)
It won't throw a cell if it's catted.

3" dp is a 3" dp is a 3" dp....
Doesn't cobb's taper?

UR's catted DP used to throw a CEL. I've read some people here with CNT catted that say the same. The CEL is triggered because of where the 02 sensor location, to which the genpu is more sensitive.

Not like it matters anyway if you have an AP...just clear the code.


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