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The Nut 05-08-2013 03:33 PM

:yeah:
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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2050991)
Damn that's on my way home from work. Wish I could go but I'm busy tonight.

If anyone is interested. I found my next mod (AP is on it's way, it's not that). After an awesome :banana: day in the stock market I've decided to buy a JBR rear sway bar. From what I've read is a very solid piece of engineering. Anyone have any opinions on it. I have not seen an complaints about it, just good reviews. I also read a thread (that I can't find) that compared the strength of each bar and it seems like most have around the same ratings. I'm probably going to install it on the middle setting because I don't want anything too extreme. I know it's kinda pricey but with the amount of money I made today I could care less. The understeer is killing me, I want my car to follow the damn line I put it in.

We meet there every Wed. night around 9:00. Come anytime. Also, I know this doesn't help, but in my research, I've only found one other RSB that is made better as it slows for the perfect balance of stiffness for reduction of understeer, and flex for street driving comfort. It is also quite pricey, but none of this matters cause I forget who makes it. I know, I know, poster fail. I'll look around if I find it I'll post a link to it.

himurax13 05-08-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2051049)
:yeah:

We meet there every Wed. night around 9:00. Come anytime. Also, I know this doesn't help, but in my research, I've only found one other RSB that is made better as it slows for the perfect balance of stiffness for reduction of understeer, and flex for street driving comfort. It is also quite pricey, but none of this matters cause I forget who makes it. I know, I know, poster fail. I'll look around if I find it I'll post a link to it.

Tripoint, cough, cough.;)

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Dark_Signal 05-08-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2050823)
(Saw you location) come to the meet tonight, make friends, get help, offer to help others, live happy! 11133 Balboa Blvd, Granada Hills, CA 91344, United States

Say is that the target that's off the 118fwy? You guys meet every Wednesday right?
I went to a meet there once last year when I barely bought my car. It was great and wanted to keep coming but that time it wasn't really possible for me. I had just moved out to a new place with my GF and just recently got a promotion at work that required me to come in at 4am!!!!! So it was pretty much impossible for me to keep coming out to meets. That and I was ashamed of being the only guy with a stock MS3 at the meets, lol.
But since then I've got a new schedule at work and I've actually modded my MS3 a bit so I was actually thinking about heading out again soon.
The one time I went to the meet I met @Oliverms3, who was totally cool. It's too bad I took my GF, who was board and wanted to leave right away :cussing:. Not bringing her next time for sure, lulz.
But yeah I'm down to start coming out to the meets :banana:.
Shit, I’d go tonight but can't :banghead:. Unfortunately my best friend is having a birthday get together tonight at a bar by my house called Pat's cocktails on Laurel Cyn and Riverside Dr, or else I'd go see what happening tonight.

The Nut 05-08-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2051083)
Tripoint, cough, cough.;)

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Not the one I was thinking of

himurax13 05-08-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2051125)
Not the one I was thinking of

Well some of us are acutely aware of your research fail.;)

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[R]usty 05-08-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2051049)
:yeah:

We meet there every Wed. night around 9:00. Come anytime. Also, I know this doesn't help, but in my research, I've only found one other RSB that is made better as it slows for the perfect balance of stiffness for reduction of understeer, and flex for street driving comfort. It is also quite pricey, but none of this matters cause I forget who makes it. I know, I know, poster fail. I'll look around if I find it I'll post a link to it.

You've got time to find the name, JBR ran out of the red sway bar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2051083)
Tripoint, cough, cough.;)

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Interesting the lowest setting is equal to the middle setting of the JBR. Any issues with rattling, clunking or squeaking?

himurax13 05-08-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2051141)

Interesting the lowest setting is equal to the middle setting of the JBR. Any issues with rattling, clunking or squeaking?

Not if installed properly.

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The Nut 05-08-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2051137)
Well some of us are acutely aware of your research fail.;)

Sent via stockish Black Mica Pu

Well...It's not like I made a big secret about it. So way to point it out "stockish"!

qweedqwag 05-09-2013 02:30 PM

This is how I did it.
AP
SRI
Internals
racepipe
CS TMIC
Freektune.

[R]usty 05-09-2013 05:11 PM

Version 2 of the Corksport RSB? I like the idea of a one piece solid sway bar.

himurax13 05-09-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2053488)
Version 2 of the Corksport RSB? I like the idea of a one piece solid sway bar.

Well I think the ends are welded on. I know of at least 2 people personally who have had problems with the original version.

Dark_Signal 05-09-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by qweedqwag (Post 2053191)
This is how I did it.
AP
SRI
Internals
racepipe
CS TMIC
Freektune.

No TIP? I know the gains are pretty minimal but there are some real nice looking pieces out there. They make for some very nice under hood bling.

The Nut 05-10-2013 12:34 AM

:10:
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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2054075)
No TIP? I know the gains are pretty minimal but there are some real nice looking pieces out there. They make for some very nice under hood bling.

Depending on what your goals are...Get a TIP. The Factory junk piece of plastic is crimped in several places and has half an inch for air to flow through it. Here is my MOD sequence that I did it in:

AP
Internals/SRI/TIP all at once
RMM
SSP/Counterweight/Bushings/Heavy Knob all at once
IC one night
Nator TP the next (tonight actually 5/9/13)
Next is a tune
(Obviously didn't include non performance MODs, all of which were done before anything else. (Got many more of those I'd like to do)
Wheels and Tires are next too

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2054114)
:10:

Depending on what your goals are...Get a TIP. The Factory junk piece of plastic is crimped in several places and has half an inch for air to flow through it. Here is my MOD sequence that I did it in:

AP
Internals/SRI/TIP all at once
RMM
SSP/Counterweight/Bushings/Heavy Knob all at once
IC one night
Nator TP the next (tonight actually 5/9/13)
Next is a tune
(Obviously didn't include non performance MODs, all of which were done before anything else. (Got many more of those I'd like to do)
Wheels and Tires are next too

Man i should of done it like you. I went ahead and got the SRI and TIP before internals and the AP. Reason being JBR says it's fine to run their SRI and TIP with out a tune or internals. They where also having a 10% off sale so I jumped on it.

Next mod for sure will be internals and AP for sure.

After that future mods will be RMM, TMIC, TP, SSP/Couterweight, RSB, Stage 2 OTS map.
I'd like to eventually get some coilovers, wheels, tires, PMM, TMM, and a custom tune but that will be probably way later in the future, lol.

The Nut 05-10-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2054730)
Man i should of done it like you. I went ahead and got the SRI and TIP before internals and the AP. Reason being JBR says it's fine to run their SRI and TIP with out a tune or internals. They where also having a 10% off sale so I jumped on it.

Next mod for sure will be internals and AP for sure.

After that future mods will be RMM, TMIC, TP, SSP/Couterweight, RSB, Stage 2 OTS map.
I'd like to eventually get some coilovers, wheels, tires, PMM, TMM, and a custom tune but that will be probably way later in the future, lol.

For the sake of sales kid, buy shit in whatever order you can get the best deals on. But what order you put them on is another story. If you did all the reading that I'm sure everyone has been pushing you to do, you'd know that people with GenPu's have successfully run intake only with no internals and not had an issue. But you also would have read that our cars are ready for internals upgrades right out of the box and that Mazda would have done better just to have gone with the bigger piston in the first place. In the same countless stickies & guides that say this, you would have read that a lot of people have just thrown an intake on their Gen2 and ran into problems running lean, enough so, that our entire community recommends doing internals before ANYTHING ELSE. Now go read some more and pray you don't ZZB before your internals arrive. (Dude just don't go wild on the gas pedal in the meantime and you "should" be ok.) Yes, I understand that's like asking a 7 yr I'll to put down the ice cream and get back to doing homework. But if he doesn't learn to read, he'll never be able to spell ice cream, or internals, or forged pistons, you get the idea.

himurax13 05-10-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2054730)
Man i should of done it like you. I went ahead and got the SRI and TIP before internals and the AP. Reason being JBR says it's fine to run their SRI and TIP with out a tune or internals. They where also having a 10% off sale so I jumped on it.

Next mod for sure will be internals and AP for sure.

After that future mods will be RMM, TMIC, TP, SSP/Couterweight, RSB, Stage 2 OTS map.
I'd like to eventually get some coilovers, wheels, tires, PMM, TMM, and a custom tune but that will be probably way later in the future, lol.

Nice list. If you are getting the internals and the AP, why don't you flash a Stage 2 map then? ;)

The Nut 05-10-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2054882)
Nice list. If you are getting the internals and the AP, why don't you flash a Stage 2 map then? ;)

No TP, No Stage2. @himurax13; here likes to mess with noobs he suspects of not doing their reading. But you need at least a TP (along with all the other Stage 1 stuff before you can flash a S2 map. Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

himurax13 05-10-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2054905)
No TP, No Stage2. @himurax13; here likes to mess with noobs he suspects of not doing their reading. But you need at least a TP (along with all the other Stage 1 stuff before you can flash a S2 map. Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

Quiet you. Noobs need to learn. It is best to just hand them the tools, tell them what to do, then leave. ;)

The Nut 05-10-2013 12:19 PM

Forgive him, he's Crasian.

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2054882)
Nice list. If you are getting the internals and the AP, why don't you flash a Stage 2 map then? ;)

I read a post from Lex at Stratified that you should have a TP to reduce some of the heat and backpressure at the turbo.

Source: top post on that page.
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...38/index4.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2054905)
No TP, No Stage2. @himurax13; here likes to mess with noobs he suspects of not doing their reading. But you need at least a TP (along with all the other Stage 1 stuff before you can flash a S2 map. Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

LOL oh I see, sneaky sneaky. :nana:

Yeah reading everything I can about a given mod is a requirement for me to continue modding my MS3. I seriously want to avoid the dreaded ZZB.


Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2054920)
Quiet you. Noobs need to learn. It is best to just hand them the tools, tell them what to do, then leave. ;)

Hey I agree and I'll take it. The only way to really learn is from doing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2054937)
Forgive him, he's Crasian.

lol no worries.

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2054797)
For the sake of sales kid, buy shit in whatever order you can get the best deals on. But what order you put them on is another story. If you did all the reading that I'm sure everyone has been pushing you to do, you'd know that people with GenPu's have successfully run intake only with no internals and not had an issue. But you also would have read that our cars are ready for internals upgrades right out of the box and that Mazda would have done better just to have gone with the bigger piston in the first place. In the same countless stickies & guides that say this, you would have read that a lot of people have just thrown an intake on their Gen2 and ran into problems running lean, enough so, that our entire community recommends doing internals before ANYTHING ELSE. Now go read some more and pray you don't ZZB before your internals arrive. (Dude just don't go wild on the gas pedal in the meantime and you "should" be ok.) Yes, I understand that's like asking a 7 yr I'll to put down the ice cream and get back to doing homework. But if he doesn't learn to read, he'll never be able to spell ice cream, or internals, or forged pistons, you get the idea.

Yeah definitely need to read before slapping stuff on. Unfortunately for me I was impatient and since Jamie at JBR said it was cool to run the SRI without internals I went ahead and did it. Stupid me I know. After that I read a bunch more threads and realized that I could still be sitting on a time bomb :-( So yeah now I'm all in panic mode and ready to install some internals. Do you think it would be best just to stock out for now and re-install everything once I get the internals in?

The Nut 05-10-2013 02:04 PM

With no AP to monitor your shit, yeah, that would be safest. You may not/probably wouldn't run into a problem. But if something were to go wrong, you'd be hating life a lot more than you'd be hating the 20 min. It'll take to put the stock box back on. Make sense?

himurax13 05-10-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055116)
Yeah definitely need to read before slapping stuff on. Unfortunately for me I was impatient and since Jamie at JBR said it was cool to run the SRI without internals I went ahead and did it. Stupid me I know. After that I read a bunch more threads and realized that I could still be sitting on a time bomb :-( So yeah now I'm all in panic mode and ready to install some internals. Do you think it would be best just to stock out for now and re-install everything once I get the internals in?

Well I always tell people unless you have an AP and do a few 4th gear WOT logs, there is no way to be sure that the Fuel Pressure is staying above 1600. With any type of modding there is always some inherent risk. It is up to you to decide if you should stock out or not.

BlackBandit 05-10-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2050212)
How hard would you say the internals would be to install for someone with little to no car modding experience? Internals are definitely the next mod I'll be doing to my MS3. Never done anything like this before but from searching around and reading up on install walkthroughs, it doesn't seem too difficult. The problem is I don't have all the tools necessary to make this happen and this is something I really don't want to fuck up. The possibility of ZZB makes me a little nervous, lol.

It is optimally not the point to be starting at with no experience. But this is not a difficult job. Don't have to jack the car, no heavy lifting, etc.. It just requires precautions. The possibility of ZZB isn't really that high with this one, as if you have an AP, you will know RIGHT away if you did it wrong and can fix it before driving anywhere.

You absolutely need the proper tools. The e8 torx can not be gotten around. Same with a deep 18mm socket. Non-CRC Brake or Contact cleaner is the way to go, some use gasoline, but I think the sprays are safer. Only touch the machined parts with latex gloves on. Get some lint-free cloths too (like the ones for glasses). You work area has to be spic and span as well. Tools cleaned too. You don't want any dirt getting on the machined parts. Oil properly during reassembly too. Another pair of hands helps with getting the screws and the lower steel line lined up when putting the pump back on.

Like I said the HPFP Actual pressure reading on the AP will tell you right away if you assembled it wrong as the pressure will be at like 60 instead of normal.

Just read all the threads. Take pictures of everything as you go along, before disassembling, so you have a reference to go back to.

Ultimately you can always go with the pre-done route. It's 200 dollars out the door for maybe 30 mins worth of work thou. That only requires switching out the pump itself rather than opening anything. Up to you.

Post in your local NATOR chapter forum and maybe someone will be able to help you?

I think Corksport is going to have an option soon. If you go with them they can give tech support over the phone during your install if needed.

EDIT - I think I read you don't have an AP? Don't do it then. You HAVE be able to verify the pump pressure after the install.

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nut (Post 2055133)
With no AP to monitor your shit, yeah, that would be safest. You may not/probably wouldn't run into a problem. But if something were to go wrong, you'd be hating life a lot more than you'd be hating the 20 min. It'll take to put the stock box back on. Make sense?

Yeah make sense, guess I know what I'm doing this weekend, lol.

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055136)
Well I always tell people unless you have an AP and do a few 4th gear WOT logs, there is no way to be sure that the Fuel Pressure is staying above 1600. With any type of modding there is always some inherent risk. It is up to you to decide if you should stock out or not.

I believe I'm going to heir on the side of caution on this. Stocking out tomorrow and driving like granny for the rest of the day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBandit (Post 2055161)
It is optimally not the point to be starting at with no experience. But this is not a difficult job. Don't have to jack the car, no heavy lifting, etc.. It just requires precautions. The possibility of ZZB isn't really that high with this one, as if you have an AP, you will know RIGHT away if you did it wrong and can fix it before driving anywhere.

You absolutely need the proper tools. The e8 torx can not be gotten around. Same with a deep 18mm socket. Non-CRC Brake or Contact cleaner is the way to go, some use gasoline, but I think the sprays are safer. Only touch the machined parts with latex gloves on. Get some lint-free cloths too (like the ones for glasses). You work area has to be spic and span as well. Tools cleaned too. You don't want any dirt getting on the machined parts. Oil properly during reassembly too. Another pair of hands helps with getting the screws and the lower steel line lined up when putting the pump back on.

Like I said the HPFP Actual pressure reading on the AP will tell you right away if you assembled it wrong as the pressure will be at like 60 instead of normal.

Just read all the threads. Take pictures of everything as you go along, before disassembling, so you have a reference to go back to.

Ultimately you can always go with the pre-done route. It's 200 dollars out the door for maybe 30 mins worth of work thou. That only requires switching out the pump itself rather than opening anything. Up to you.

Post in your local NATOR chapter forum and maybe someone will be able to help you?

I think Corksport is going to have an option soon. If you go with them they can give tech support over the phone during your install if needed.

EDIT - I think I read you don't have an AP? Don't do it then. You HAVE be able to verify the pump pressure after the install.

Thanks for the info man. I will be getting the AP and the internals at the same time so that shouldn't be an issue. Although you do have me thinking about just getting a new pump instead of the internals. Definitely easier sounding but I am a broke ass. :09:

himurax13 05-10-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055192)
Yeah make sense, guess I know what I'm doing this weekend, lol.



I believe I'm going to heir on the side of caution on this. Stocking out tomorrow and driving like granny for the rest of the day.



Thanks for the info man. I will be getting the AP and the internals at the same time so that shouldn't be an issue. Although you do have me thinking about just getting a new pump instead of the internals. Definitely easier sounding but I am a broke ass. :09:

Well I could install it for you and charge you a small fee or I can show you how to do it, since I am in the neighborhood and all. ;)

Buying a new pump is a humungous waste of money and you still have to install the darn thing in the car. :)

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055226)
Well I could install it for you and charge you a small fee or I can show you how to do it, since I am in the neighborhood and all. ;)

Buying a new pump is a humungous waste of money and you still have to install the darn thing in the car. :)

Yeah that sounds good. having someone who knows what they're doing watching my back would be great. I'm definitely down for that. Saving money is always good too. :biggthumpup:

himurax13 05-10-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055243)
Yeah that sounds good. having someone who knows what they're doing watching my back would be great. I'm definitely down for that. Saving money is always good too. :biggthumpup:

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I never said I knew what I was doing, and I never offer gaurantees except for death, taxes, and government corruption. ;)

[R]usty 05-10-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055116)
Yeah definitely need to read before slapping stuff on. Unfortunately for me I was impatient and since Jamie at JBR said it was cool to run the SRI without internals I went ahead and did it. Stupid me I know. After that I read a bunch more threads and realized that I could still be sitting on a time bomb :-( So yeah now I'm all in panic mode and ready to install some internals. Do you think it would be best just to stock out for now and re-install everything once I get the internals in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055116)
Yeah definitely need to read before slapping stuff on. Unfortunately for me I was impatient and since Jamie at JBR said it was cool to run the SRI without internals I went ahead and did it. Stupid me I know. After that I read a bunch more threads and realized that I could still be sitting on a time bomb :-( So yeah now I'm all in panic mode and ready to install some internals. Do you think it would be best just to stock out for now and re-install everything once I get the internals in?

Okay I'm going to chime in with my experience here, which is probably more than most people because I ran an intake for 10,000 miles without any other modification to the car while monitoring my fuel pressure on a daily basis. I think you will be totally fine running an intake only. Get rid of the TIP. I ran an intake only without any internals or AP for 10,000 miles without a problem in the world. I monitored my pressure on a daily basis and I stayed well above 1650 psi WOT. I've also done some compression testing before I installed my internals and everything was perfect. This could just be my car but I think you will be safe. Please don't hate me for this comment but this is just my experience with this car. I had no problems and did not foresee any problems with my initial setup (intake only). I moved to internals after I got blasted by these guys for not having them installed after i installing a testpipe and tip (only ran this way without internals for 1500 miles, no biggie).

After I installed my internals I noticed my car had a little better throttle response and held pressure a lot better and more smoothly then my previous internals. Now I'm holding pressure at 1780psi WOT in 4th,5th and 6th. I'm also peaking at 1920psi. This is a pretty big improvement over my stock internals so I would recommend you get them as soon as you have the funds. After that resume your modifications schedule normally (AP).

FYI, My install video is coming in the next few days. I've reviewed it's contents and although it's not perfect it's a pretty good (1080p HD :headbang:) guide to doing an install.

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055260)
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I never said I knew what I was doing, and I never offer gaurantees except for death, taxes, and government corruption. ;)

Fair enough, lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055262)
Okay I'm going to chime in with my experience here, which is probably more than most people because I ran an intake for 10,000 miles without any other modification to the car while monitoring my fuel pressure on a daily basis. I think you will be totally fine running an intake only. Get rid of the TIP. I ran an intake only without any internals or AP for 10,000 miles without a problem in the world. I monitored my pressure on a daily basis and I stayed well above 1650 psi WOT. I've also done some compression testing before I installed my internals and everything was perfect. This could just be my car but I think you will be safe. Please don't hate me for this comment but this is just my experience with this car. I had no problems and did not foresee any problems with my initial setup (intake only). I moved to internals after I got blasted by these guys for not having them installed after i installing a testpipe and tip (only ran this way without internals for 1500 miles, no biggie).

After I installed my internals I noticed my car had a little better throttle response and held pressure a lot better and more smoothly then my previous internals. Now I'm holding pressure at 1780psi WOT in 4th,5th and 6th. I'm also peaking at 1920psi. This is a pretty big improvement over my stock internals so I would recommend you get them as soon as you have the funds. After that resume your modifications schedule normally (AP).

FYI, My install video is coming in the next few days. I've reviewed it's contents and although it's not perfect it's a pretty good (1080p HD :headbang:) guide to doing an install.

Interesting... still I believe i'll heir on the side of caution until I get my internals. With no way to monitor my fuel pressure, there's no way to know if I'm one of the unlucky ones that has a weak HPFP straight from the factory. For now it's better to be safe than sorry.

[R]usty 05-10-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055283)
Fair enough, lol.



Interesting... still I believe i'll heir on the side of caution until I get my internals. With no way to monitor my fuel pressure, there's no way to know if I'm one of the unlucky ones that has a weak HPFP straight from the factory. For now it's better to be safe than sorry.

That's what i missed, I meant to say if you have no way of monitoring it's better to be safe.

My recommendation for a cheap monitor that works really wells is buy a Bluetooth OBDII adapter on amazon or ebay for a couple bucks, then buy the Torque Pro App in the android or apple app store for 5 dollars. Total send 15 dollars. I compared it with a very expensive professional monitoring program on my laptop and it was essentially the same thing, just a tad slower on the update times.

They do have different adapter you can buy, personally I spent 100 on a high end Bluetooth adapter. I compared it to a 10 dollar ones available on amazon or eBay and it was only slightly slower then my expensive KIWI.

It's better then nothing.

The Nut 05-10-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055262)
Okay I'm going to chime in with my experience here, which is probably more than most people because I ran an intake for 10,000 miles without any other modification to the car while monitoring my fuel pressure on a daily basis. I think you will be totally fine running an intake only. Get rid of the TIP. I ran an intake only without any internals or AP for 10,000 miles without a problem in the world. I monitored my pressure on a daily basis and I stayed well above 1650 psi WOT. I've also done some compression testing before I installed my internals and everything was perfect. This could just be my car but I think you will be safe. Please don't hate me for this comment but this is just my experience with this car. I had no problems and did not foresee any problems with my initial setup (intake only). I moved to internals after I got blasted by these guys for not having them installed after i installing a testpipe and tip (only ran this way without internals for 1500 miles, no biggie).

After I installed my internals I noticed my car had a little better throttle response and held pressure a lot better and more smoothly then my previous internals. Now I'm holding pressure at 1780psi WOT in 4th,5th and 6th. I'm also peaking at 1920psi. This is a pretty big improvement over my stock internals so I would recommend you get them as soon as you have the funds. After that resume your modifications schedule normally (AP).

FYI, My install video is coming in the next few days. I've reviewed it's contents and although it's not perfect it's a pretty good (1080p HD :headbang:) guide to doing an install.

He has no AP yet to monitor his fuel pressure.

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055317)
That's what i missed, I meant to say if you have no way of monitoring it's better to be safe.

My recommendation for a cheap monitor that works really wells is buy a Bluetooth OBDII adapter on amazon or ebay for a couple bucks, then buy the Torque Pro App in the android or apple app store for 5 dollars. Total send 15 dollars. I compared it with a very expensive professional monitoring program on my laptop and it was essentially the same thing, just a tad slower on the update times.

They do have different adapter you can buy, personally I spent 100 on a high end Bluetooth adapter. I compared it to a 10 dollar ones available on amazon or eBay and it was only slightly faster then my expensive KIWI.

It's better then nothing.

Thanks for the info, that's very interesting. I might do this is the internals are on back order or something. (PMing with Edge Autosport right now about internals & AP combo deal) If they can get both the AP and internals to me quickly than I won't need to get this, but if they're on back order than I might just do what you said and the app and adapter.

himurax13 05-10-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Signal (Post 2055335)
Thanks for the info, that's very interesting. I might do this is the internals are on back order or something. (PMing with Edge Autosport right now about internals & AP combo deal) If they can get both the AP and internals to me quickly than I won't need to get this, but if they're on back order than I might just do what you said and the app and adapter.

I have the app and adapter but I am too stoopid to figure it out right now, haha.

[R]usty 05-10-2013 04:54 PM

For those who are interested I spoke with Jamie and he convinced me to buy his JBR rear sway bar. I'll order that next week when he gets more red bars in stock. I'll try and do a install video even though it's a no brainer.

himurax13 05-10-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055369)
For those who are interested I spoke with Jamie and he convinced me to buy his JBR rear sway bar. I'll order that next week when he gets more red bars in stock. I'll try and do a install video even though it's a no brainer.

Grease the bushings and make sure the endlinks are not under load when you install them. I think they have a video for that. Now if you can get some scantily clad hottie to do the How To Videos, that may be worthwhile ...

[R]usty 05-10-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055386)
Grease the bushings and make sure the endlinks are not under load when you install them. I think they have a video for that. Now if you can get some scantily clad hottie to do the How To Videos, that may be worthwhile ...

Haha, well my girlfriend does do YouTube DIY videos. She's not scantily clad but still very attractive and she know about cars. She did a video for HID conversion on my speed one night when we had nothing to do.


So no load when installing good to know. That was probably going to be my first question.

himurax13 05-10-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055427)
Haha, well my girlfriend does do YouTube DIY videos. She's not scantily clad but still very attractive and she know about cars. She did a video for HID conversion on my speed one night when we had nothing to do.

proof: How to Convert Headlights from Standard Halogen to HID (MazdaSpeed 3) - YouTube

So no load when installing good to know. That was probably going to be my first question.

Well I can trade you my cell number for Noodz of said GF.

Just in case you need any info. ;)

Dark_Signal 05-10-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055369)
For those who are interested I spoke with Jamie and he convinced me to buy his JBR rear sway bar. I'll order that next week when he gets more red bars in stock. I'll try and do a install video even though it's a no brainer.

Sweet. I'm definitely going with JBR when it's time for a RSB. :biggthumpup:

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055386)
Grease the bushings and make sure the endlinks are not under load when you install them. I think they have a video for that. Now if you can get some scantily clad hottie to do the How To Videos, that may be worthwhile ...

I second the scantily clad hottie idea. :slaphappy:

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Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2055427)
Haha, well my girlfriend does do YouTube DIY videos. She's not scantily clad but still very attractive and she know about cars. She did a video for HID conversion on my speed one night when we had nothing to do.

proof: How to Convert Headlights from Standard Halogen to HID (MazdaSpeed 3) - YouTube

So no load when installing good to know. That was probably going to be my first question.

Nice! Yu're a lucky man to have a GF that has an interest in cars. Mine doesn't even know how to change her blinker fluid. :439:

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Originally Posted by himurax13 (Post 2055434)
Well I can trade you my cell number for Noodz of said GF.

Just in case you need any info. ;)

:haha:

himurax13 05-11-2013 01:36 AM

What I mean by no load is that when you install the endlinks into the swaybar, they should go in straight with no pressure. So you may need to lower the tires onto some wood to simulate it being flat on the ground if that makes any sense.

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