Gen 2 really goes boom

[specvspeedfreak]

Have a very short clip of a 2011 MS3 blown motor. Not my car but a friends. 9K on the motor. Car was stage 2 with AP. Happened when it was very cold out (car was already warmed up) It happened either 1st or 2nd gear, part throttle.
Has anyone seen anything like this?

MVI 2749 - YouTube

MVI 2749 - YouTube

After what happened to my friends car I couldn't help but take it easy with mine...But that short lived lol

MODS: CS SRI/TIP/CPE catted DP/AT internals/UR CBE/TS BPV /AP stage 2 partial tune. believe it was in MAF CAL stages... But has driven in this stage of the tune for a bit.

[dizzydtrain]

What were his mods? pro tune?

[drenkel]

In before we find out he had no fuel pump

[HARPER306]

@Sid3wayS

says stage 2 with ap, sounds like an ots and possibly no fp. if so LOL

[Dmurray06]

Wow...something went pretty wrong there...+1 on what mods?

[makjur]

im trying to figure out what assploded... chunk of block out?
any more details?

[specvspeedfreak]

check OP for mod list

[HARPER306]

"stage 2 with ap"

so he had stock car with stage 2 map? stage 2 upgrades with ots tune?? ots tune or tuned after the fact??

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by HARPER306 "stage 2 with ap" so he had stock car with stage 2 map? stage 2 upgrades with ots tune?? ots tune or tuned after the fact??

Read the OP. I updated with his mod list.

[zedekias]

I really hope he did something stupid. Because that shit scares me.

[Sid3wayS]

Damn that always sux to see. Op ask your buddy if he had any weird vibes in his clutch pedal. My money is on him going wot at low rpms/high gear alot bent the rod and it then decided to make a sunroof.

[trf5000]

Bad tunes blow motors. Period.

[xtasy]

Bad tune? Miss shifted? Bad FP internal? Happen to have a log?

[JS + MS3]

Ask him if he did anything stupid. Because the car just doesn't go boom like that for no reason. There has to be a reason.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

So had to have been the cpe full length dp and the ur tp. That silly guy had too many parts on his car




Bad tunes own motors.

[specvspeedfreak]

No log. Don't have much more info. It did throw a code. I forget what it was. Will ask another friend later since he pulled the code. I blamed the partial tune myself but owner states he has had it with the partial tune for a bit and has got on it a lot harder before. I guess this was part throttle, doesn't remember too well, it happened so fast and suddenly.

[rghispanic88]

he probably fucked something up on the tune.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport So had to have been the cpe full length dp and the ur tp. That silly guy had too many parts on his car Bad tunes own motors.

lol.. My bad. CPE long DP.. No UR TP. I was thinking of what I help him sell. He had the UR TP prior. lol

He also had a TS BPV so I added that to the OP

[SWAY]

I just see an excuse to get bigger stronger go fast parts, maybe i should blow mine.

[dizzydtrain]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak lol.. My bad. CPE long DP.. No UR TP. I was thinking of what I help him sell. He had the UR TP prior. lol He also had a TS BPV so I added that to the OP

How much does he want for the Cbe?

[HPFPUPGRADE]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak Have a very short clip of a 2011 MS3 blown motor. Not my car but a friends. 9K on the motor. Car was stage 2 with AP. Happened when it was very cold out (car was already warmed up) It happened either 1st or 2nd gear, part throttle. Has anyone seen anything like this? MVI 2749 - YouTube After what happened to my friends car I couldn't help but take it easy with mine...But that short lived lol MODS: CS SRI/TIP/CPE catted DP/AT internals/UR CBE/TS BPV /AP stage 2 partial tune. believe it was in MAF CAL stages... But has driven in this stage of the tune for a bit.

Any datalog before the engine blew? It would be interesting to see how things looked prior to it going pop.

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak No log. Don't have much more info. It did throw a code. I forget what it was. Will ask another friend later since he pulled the code. I blamed the partial tune myself but owner states he has had it with the partial tune for a bit and has got on it a lot harder before. I guess this was part throttle, doesn't remember too well, it happened so fast and suddenly.

What was he doing before the engine popped? How long had he been driving it, and did he just get off the freeway? These may seem like odd questions, but entertain me.

Thanks

[Tomas]

That hole is perfectly normal.
It's Mazda's latest fix for better crankcase breathing.
Nothing to see here.

[Lex]

The Gen2 motors are less prone to this - something else was going on here.

[deadlandxtreme]

Originally Posted by Tomas That hole is perfectly normal. It's Mazda's latest fix for better crankcase breathing. Nothing to see here.

I had that fix in Dec. Worked wonders! The car didn't use any gas for a whole month!

[makjur]

this is old, but was an interesting read...
Why the Mazdaspeed3/6 engine blow up...

Maybe the problems haven't been solved completely for the gen2 ms3?

Did your boy have a catch can or any PCV work done?

[rfinkle2]

You scared the crap out of me, and I know Phate will feel the same.

Didn't you tell me your friend was self tuning?

Originally Posted by HPFPUPGRADE Any datalog before the engine blew? It would be interesting to see how things looked prior to it going pop. What was he doing before the engine popped? How long had he been driving it, and did he just get off the freeway? These may seem like odd questions, but entertain me. Thanks

It sounds as if you have a theory on why these things seem to give up after being on the freeway. I'm all ears when you have a free moment.

[Payne Racing 67]

I'm definitely thinking it's too much mods before good tune....bent rod, and as tuning began it put too much stress on the motor and boom

[wankular]

Fuck. Only 9k? I assume he's stocking out and going to the dealer?

[dizzydtrain]

Fuck all that noise. Although I have a Gen2 with PERM tune/upgraded internals, OCC, EGR delete, etc--there are still rules that I follow-- No wot unless warmed up, no wot below 3k, and no wot on super cold ass days.

I am guessing something had to have gone wrong with the tune. All we can do is speculate unless the driver shows us his map or has a log.

[abiezerf]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 You scared the crap out of me, and I know Phate will feel the same. Didn't you tell me your friend was self tuning? It sounds as if you have a theory on why these things seem to give up after being on the freeway. I'm all ears when you have a free moment.

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[specvspeedfreak]

Sorry guys. I have been very busy with my coming up move to Cali and havent been able to get much more info. All I know is what I have already said (partial tune but he wasn't on it hard when this happened). The dealer couldn't even pull the code cause the battery cable was unhooked for a while. Dealer says they have seen blown motors but never anything like this and it was a defect with engine. Of course, this is not knowing the entire story. I personally demodded his car, car was covered under warranty and everything was sold. I wouldn't post it up otherwise.


Rob, this is another friend. BUT that friend did give him the tune he was on when it blew lol

I will get more info on the tune and such a lil later. Again no logs or anything. I have another longer video of blown motor, nothing special. If you guys want to see it let me know.

[specvspeedfreak]

MVI_2748.MOV - YouTube

MVI_2748.MOV - YouTube

link to longer vid of blown motor

[speed14]

yikes

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak Sorry guys. I have been very busy with my coming up move to Cali and havent been able to get much more info. All I know is what I have already said (partial tune but he wasn't on it hard when this happened). The dealer couldn't even pull the code cause the battery cable was unhooked for a while. Dealer says they have seen blown motors but never anything like this and it was a defect with engine. Of course, this is not knowing the entire story. I personally demodded his car, car was covered under warranty and everything was sold. I wouldn't post it up otherwise. Rob, this is another friend. BUT that friend did give him the tune he was on when it blew lol I will get more info on the tune and such a lil later. Again no logs or anything. I have another longer video of blown motor, nothing special. If you guys want to see it let me know.

If you do have a copy of the map, would you mind posting it?

[Nitr0EngiE]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak MVI_2748.MOV - YouTube link to longer vid of blown motor

thats exactly where my gen 1 blew up, my rod hit my axle and bent the axle i had to buy a new passenger axle but where is all the oil your lucky it did not crack the pan thats a mild blow up tbh mine was falling in 2 pieces entire block was cracked

[specvspeedfreak]

Just called the friend that did tune and pull the code. Only code that he found was something about cam angle. Not sure if I can get the map, I will see.

[karl-hungus]

best narration since apocalypse now.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by karl-hungus best narration since apocalypse now.

lol.

Vid was meant for the owner. Cause I know he would of been asking me "where is that exactly, I can't tell"

[easy]

the paranoia never ends!!!!!!

shit i have forged internals and im still paranoid sometimes ....

[karl-hungus]

i think of brando every time i hear 'this is the hole'. haunting.

The Horror (brando) - YouTube

The Horror (brando) - YouTube