GenPus do NOT loose boost at 5500

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by mrbeal I'm curious... why would redline be where it is if you will damage the motor if you rev to it? Seems to me Mazda would have to replace a ton of engines under warranty if this were the case. I understand the power falling off at 5500 but revving to redline is half the fun of driving a stick. Buying a car with a redline of 6700 and NOT being told by the dealer that revving to 6700 will damage the engine seems irresponsible to me. And, if they do tell you not to rev that high why in the world is redline at 6700?? Also, if the fuel pump can or can't handle the job why would they sell it that way? Mazda "Lets sell a car with a redline of 6700 that we know will damage the engine if it's revved that high and a fuel pump that may or may not supply enough fuel to the engine and will damage said engine if the pump isnt up to the task..." not to mention the rear motor mount. WTF!! Seems to me Mazda is up to no good and anyone who buys a Speed3 knowing these things is a fool. I've found this forum to be extremely un-helpful and just plain rude. You fools are going to have to do with one less "brownie" here... some people just want to go to a site and educate themselves, maybe learn about something they don't know about. Well, you have pretty much educated me out of buying a Speed3. Just the fact that there are so many ignorant people on here buying cars that they know will be damaged if driven just blows my mind. Please, DON'T respond! Assholes

Well, if you already assumed we were ignorant morons then why would you heed any of our advice, opinions, or information in the first place?

You're not too bright.

[Ziggo]

Meh.

Pus gonna poo. At this point it seems there is nothing you can do about it. Hondas gonna rev in parking lots and bimmers are going to be douchebags and gen1s gonna throw rods. At some point you are just going to have to live with it. Is it still a stereotype if it's true? I think people get more pissed off when they know it's true somewhere deep down inside.


Zigatapatalka

[bislag]

Originally Posted by mrbeal I'm curious... why would redline be where it is if you will damage the motor if you rev to it? Seems to me Mazda would have to replace a ton of engines under warranty if this were the case. I understand the power falling off at 5500 but revving to redline is half the fun of driving a stick. Buying a car with a redline of 6700 and NOT being told by the dealer that revving to 6700 will damage the engine seems irresponsible to me. And, if they do tell you not to rev that high why in the world is redline at 6700?? Also, if the fuel pump can or can't handle the job why would they sell it that way? Mazda "Lets sell a car with a redline of 6700 that we know will damage the engine if it's revved that high and a fuel pump that may or may not supply enough fuel to the engine and will damage said engine if the pump isnt up to the task..." not to mention the rear motor mount. WTF!! Seems to me Mazda is up to no good and anyone who buys a Speed3 knowing these things is a fool. I've found this forum to be extremely un-helpful and just plain rude. You fools are going to have to do with one less "brownie" here... some people just want to go to a site and educate themselves, maybe learn about something they don't know about. Well, you have pretty much educated me out of buying a Speed3. Just the fact that there are so many ignorant people on here buying cars that they know will be damaged if driven just blows my mind. Please, DON'T respond! Assholes

[zmarko]

Originally Posted by mrbeal I'm curious... why would redline be where it is if you will damage the motor if you rev to it? Seems to me Mazda would have to replace a ton of engines under warranty if this were the case. I understand the power falling off at 5500 but revving to redline is half the fun of driving a stick. Buying a car with a redline of 6700 and NOT being told by the dealer that revving to 6700 will damage the engine seems irresponsible to me. And, if they do tell you not to rev that high why in the world is redline at 6700?? Also, if the fuel pump can or can't handle the job why would they sell it that way? Mazda "Lets sell a car with a redline of 6700 that we know will damage the engine if it's revved that high and a fuel pump that may or may not supply enough fuel to the engine and will damage said engine if the pump isnt up to the task..." not to mention the rear motor mount. WTF!! Seems to me Mazda is up to no good and anyone who buys a Speed3 knowing these things is a fool. I've found this forum to be extremely un-helpful and just plain rude. You fools are going to have to do with one less "brownie" here... some people just want to go to a site and educate themselves, maybe learn about something they don't know about. Well, you have pretty much educated me out of buying a Speed3. Just the fact that there are so many ignorant people on here buying cars that they know will be damaged if driven just blows my mind. Please, DON'T respond! Assholes

I pray you don't breed.

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by zmarko I pray you don't breed.

He will. It's just one step closer to Idiocracy.

[fortressofcomfort]

You don't lose boost, you lose POWER, as in HORSEPOWER because K04 no flow over 5,500rpms. Sure you are still boosting 15psi but no FLOW.

Put another way, after intake, removal of one cat, and self tune, I can get my hp curve to go flat from 5300rpms to 6500rpms. FLAT. That's just ok, not great. A stock MS3 hp curve drops POWER dramatically after 5500rpms.

Study the relationship between boost and flow. Study the relationship between torque, rpm, and hp. Then you'll see the light.

Edit:
Added piccy... If anyone has a dyno of a stock headed MS3 with any reasonable tune gaining hp above 5.5k in a significant way, please post it. These engines (mostly stock) just don't run that way.

[texasboy21]

Light has been seen, not my first rodeo, and not the first time ^ was mentioned in the thread.

Thanks though!

[Pope]

Originally Posted by mrbeal I'm curious... why would redline be where it is if you will damage the motor if you rev to it? Seems to me Mazda would have to replace a ton of engines under warranty if this were the case. I understand the power falling off at 5500 but revving to redline is half the fun of driving a stick. Buying a car with a redline of 6700 and NOT being told by the dealer that revving to 6700 will damage the engine seems irresponsible to me. And, if they do tell you not to rev that high why in the world is redline at 6700?? Also, if the fuel pump can or can't handle the job why would they sell it that way? Mazda "Lets sell a car with a redline of 6700 that we know will damage the engine if it's revved that high and a fuel pump that may or may not supply enough fuel to the engine and will damage said engine if the pump isnt up to the task..." not to mention the rear motor mount. WTF!! Seems to me Mazda is up to no good and anyone who buys a Speed3 knowing these things is a fool. I've found this forum to be extremely un-helpful and just plain rude. You fools are going to have to do with one less "brownie" here... some people just want to go to a site and educate themselves, maybe learn about something they don't know about. Well, you have pretty much educated me out of buying a Speed3. Just the fact that there are so many ignorant people on here buying cars that they know will be damaged if driven just blows my mind. Please, DON'T respond! Assholes

go dig a hole and jump in it. holy crap. thanks for not buying a speed 3 and doing us the favor of having one less faggot owning our vehicle. your post has so many contradictions it blows my mind

[texasboy21]

Jesus Christ let the thread die!