going to trade in my genpu for

[ThizSpeed3]

not really, but hyundai sure are stepping up there game


http://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/




2013
GENESIS COUPE
274-hp, 2.0L Turbo I4 engine or 348-hp 3.8L V6 engine
6-speed manual transmission or 8-speed SHIFTRONIC®automatic transmission w/paddle shifters
Sport-tuned suspension
Starting MSRP$24,2501
4 Spacious Seats348 2 Horse power31 3MPG HWY


it out powers the brz for the same price range /facepalm



honda is sitting in the dark

discuss

[kpacker51]

Discuss?


Umm, it's a Hyundai.

[anavrinIV]

it's been discussed.

[gotspeed]

Originally Posted by ThizSpeed3 not really, but hyundai sure are stepping up there game 4 Spacious Seats3482 Horse power313MPG HWY discuss

that is impressive numbers lol

[sassyspeed3]

Meh.


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[tddvrrn]

i can haz 3482 hp pleez?

[SleeperHatch]

Fuckn brownies

[anavrinIV]

and I'm sure those back seats are "spacious" for a midget. my 6'3 ass isn't getting anywhere near that back seat, and I guarandamntee you that I wouldn't call it spacious.

[ThizSpeed3]

Originally Posted by gotspeed that is impressive numbers lol

Originally Posted by tddvrrn i can haz 3482 hp pleez?

gotta love copy and paste from a website




2013
GENESIS COUPE
274-hp, 2.0L Turbo I4 engine or 348-hp 3.8L V6 engine
6-speed manual transmission or 8-speed SHIFTRONIC®automatic transmission w/paddle shifters
Sport-tuned suspension
Starting MSRP$24,2501
4 Spacious Seats348 2 Horse power31 3MPG HWY

Originally Posted by anavrinIV it's been discussed.

ok.

Originally Posted by SleeperHatch Fuckn brownies

ur mom.

[Jonny Quest]

you fail turn in your satchel and gtfo.

and BTW paying 30k for a gencoupe v6. you might as well get a new 5.0 just saying.

[ThizSpeed3]

Originally Posted by swifttool you fail turn in your satchel and gtfo. and BTW paying 30k for a gencoupe v6. you might as well get a new 5.0 just saying.

almost had one for a rental but it would have been $$ more dollers plus tax per day for 2 weeks and my work trip is 30miles a day
mustang

[Jonny Quest]

you think the v6 gen coupe is gonna get any better mpg? your sadly mistaken

[Sid3wayS]

Still loses the 40-120

[Zbrit00x]

If you like the fake hood vents and bypass valve that look like a cheap crushed aluminum can.. Be my guest. Youl be crying later when you pay more attention to it many other things you'll notice. Test drove that thing and in my eyes failed to please just as the first gen

Edit: not to mention a rear that isn't even fit for a midget. In for law suit when someone floors it and passenger in rear cracks rear window.

[Mizzle]

Meh.
I want a CX-5 Skyactivspeed.

[fortressofcomfort]

If the 2.0T they are putting in it is the same one as in the new Sonata Turbo then those hp numbers are very overrated. I believe Motor Trend last tested a Sonata Turbo and it couldn't even break into the 14s in the 1/4 mile. Based on the weight of that car, the engine is about 30hp - 40hp overrated. The V6 model is much more powerful but I say the car overall competes more in the class with Mustang and Camaro; the Genesis Coupe doesn't compete with our car in any way shape or form; cars that give you RWD at the expense of many other important characteristics (ingress/egress, comfort, size, convenience, stealth, foul weather performance, etc.)

Price point and styling are certainly Hyundai's two latest trump cards.

Oh did I tell you guys I had my car up to an indicated 140mph today? Rock solid and still pulling HARD. Try that in the $24,000 version of the Hyundai. Thanks again @Bucker

Also, In B4 first car introduced with 10 speed automatic. When will it end?

[leon78]

HAHA...my sister drives a hyundai coupe.

[bigriver]

Interior smells like garlic and kim chee.

[jkmags]

I dont think i would get one, but not too bad (i guess).

2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review) - YouTube

[Voltwings]

The V6 is a pretty cool car, if its what you want than its what you want and what we say doesnt matter. However, for the price bracket it falls in it is quite underpowered and actually the 5.0 gets the same gas mileage so you're just down 70 hp said and done :/. However now that the 2.0T engine is actually worth a damn that car may end up being more of a contender, seeing as how well the 2.0T cobalts respond to mods with their twin scroll K04. No telling what kind of after market support that car will have, and no telling how far you plan on modding but all in all it just depends on what you want at the end of the day. I'm a drummer, name 1 other car that i can fit my full drum kit in and trash damn near anything on the road for 24k + 3k in mods?? There isn't one, but if you just want a car you think looks cool and has some oopmh i'd go for it.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Originally Posted by swifttool you fail turn in your satchel and gtfo. and BTW paying 30k for a gencoupe v6. you might as well get a new 5.0 just saying.

This pretty much sums it up. Yes, Hyundai has come a long way in the last decade but their prices have as well. I saw a 60k+ "Hyundai" at the auto-show this year. They are getting a bit big for their britches.

30k is much MUCH better spent on a 5.0 Mustang.

[Mazda Lover]

Originally Posted by Bubba Ho-Tep This pretty much sums it up. Yes, Hyundai has come a long way in the last decade but their prices have as well. I saw a 60k+ "Hyundai" at the auto-show this year. They are getting a bit big for their britches. 30k is much MUCH better spent on a 5.0 Mustang.

Yep their pricing keeps going up. In 2009 I recall a local dealer selling the base 2.0Ts for $17,995. Now they're like $23K+ for the same freaking car. A loaded v6 was mid 20s. and now they're over $30K. Hyundai as a value brand is a thing of the past. Plus this next gen IMHO looks worse than the current one.

[ASHMS3]

Originally Posted by bigriver Interior smells like garlic and kim chee.

I think it's kimchi, but I got the joke. When were you there?

[Onelovesoccer]

pass.

2013 MS3: 263/280 @ 3281 lbs starting at $24,000
2013 2.0T: 274/275 @ 3362-3492 lbs starting at $24,250
2013 BRZ: 200/150 @ 2700 lbs starting at $24,000

2013 3.8: 348/295 @ 3433-3563 lbs starting at $28,750
2013 5.0: 420/390 @ 3618 lbs starting at $30,595

i'd still go with the MS3 and would absolutely get the 5.0 if i wanted to spend $30k.

[Darth_Nuruodo]

Agreed, it's underpowered at the price compared to any Mustang of the same year. Compare the V6 to the 5.0 and lose, and honestly compare the 2.0T to the V6 Mustang. Same price bracket and WAY more HP, the 2012 Mustang was rated at 305 and that thing moved out very nicely for a V6 for the same price as our car. I will say I do like the styling of the gencoupes, even though they're considered ugly, same thing said about our cars. Also, I wouldn't put the BRZ / FR-S in that list, it's not meant to go up against the Mustang or gencoupe, I'd actually class it against cars like the Miata or more specifically the RX-8 with it's format, size, and price. I'm predicting it's going to tear up the autox scene if it gets some solid aftermarket support behind it, it's right wheel drive, small, slight, and has amazing balance and center of gravity, and decent enough power.

[G26]

Saw a couple mags had the 13 3.8 gen trapping 100 to 104 mph in the 1/4. No thanks.

[Onelovesoccer]

Originally Posted by Darth_Nuruodo Agreed, it's underpowered at the price compared to any Mustang of the same year. Compare the V6 to the 5.0 and lose, and honestly compare the 2.0T to the V6 Mustang. Same price bracket and WAY more HP, the 2012 Mustang was rated at 305 and that thing moved out very nicely for a V6 for the same price as our car. I will say I do like the styling of the gencoupes, even though they're considered ugly, same thing said about our cars. Also, I wouldn't put the BRZ / FR-S in that list, it's not meant to go up against the Mustang or gencoupe, I'd actually class it against cars like the Miata or more specifically the RX-8 with it's format, size, and price. I'm predicting it's going to tear up the autox scene if it gets some solid aftermarket support behind it, it's right wheel drive, small, slight, and has amazing balance and center of gravity, and decent enough power.

yeah I agree. for some reason I thought someone mentioned a BRZ so i oisted it but I think I'm just crazy. Haha

Speaking of the RX-8, a 2011 dynoed the same day I did, put down 185/150 corrected on a dyno jet. Sounds like the BRZ could be better deal since it starts $2765 less than the RX-8.

[tlh4tung]

2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review)

2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review) - YouTube

2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review) - YouTube

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by jashw311 I think it's kimchi, but I got the joke. When were you there?

Kimchi is kim chee. All smell the same lol.

[Boatcop1]

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort If the 2.0T they are putting in it is the same one as in the new Sonata Turbo then those hp numbers are very overrated. I believe Motor Trend last tested a Sonata Turbo and it couldn't even break into the 14s in the 1/4 mile. Based on the weight of that car, the engine is about 30hp - 40hp overrated. The V6 model is much more powerful but I say the car overall competes more in the class with Mustang and Camaro; the Genesis Coupe doesn't compete with our car in any way shape or form; cars that give you RWD at the expense of many other important characteristics (ingress/egress, comfort, size, convenience, stealth, foul weather performance, etc.) Price point and styling are certainly Hyundai's two latest trump cards. Oh did I tell you guys I had my car up to an indicated 140mph today? Rock solid and still pulling HARD. Try that in the $24,000 version of the Hyundai. Thanks again @Bucker Also, In B4 first car introduced with 10 speed automatic. When will it end?

THIS! I had an 11 Sonata turbo and sold it for the PU! The numbers are extremely exaggerated! I wouldn't doubt those numbers are not turned down after initial testing. They do have a forged bottom end and a twin scroll turbo (allegedly) but it's already maxed out at 17psi. They detuned it so that you can run 87 octane and as far as I know NO tuner has cracked their software yet probably because they are already on the ragged edge. The car was suprisingly peppy but not quick and definitley not fast!

The styling is still what is selling cars for them and the warranty! What people dont know is that the powertrain is the only thing that's covered to 100K! Everything else is 60K for the most part.

Build materials are still subpar but are getting better. I did have to replace my trans (A6) after I blew it up in 5k miles. I will say that i got retail value for it when I got rid of it which says something about Its current resale value. My wife has an 11' Limited Elantra lease and its a nothing special at all. I like the leather and heated seats yada yada but it's an underpowerd terd. We do average 32mpg in though.

Our Hyundai experiment is done.

[Crarrs]

Originally Posted by Onelovesoccer yeah I agree. for some reason I thought someone mentioned a BRZ so i oisted it but I think I'm just crazy. Haha Speaking of the RX-8, a 2011 dynoed the same day I did, put down 185/150 corrected on a dyno jet. Sounds like the BRZ could be better deal since it starts $2765 less than the RX-8.

The RX-8 is discontinued, all that's left are leftover 2011's. Between the leftover markdown and huge markup that's going to happen on the FRS/BRZ due to all of the buildup, it's pretty much a wash, if not cheaper to go with the RX-8.

However.....I was watching this over the weekend. It looks to me like a whole lot of WRX/STI parts are going to bolt straight on to the FRS/BRZ. Check out the Cosworth longblock....

GReddy Racing FR-S - Behind the Build - YouTube

GReddy Racing FR-S - Behind the Build - YouTube

This is a much better discussion than GenPu vs. GenCoupe.

[Elusivellama]

This is unrelated to the car's actual performance, but one thing about the interior turns me off and makes me think it's more show than actual go - the three gauges on the centre stack are from left to right:

1) MPG
2) Torque or PSI boost
3) Oil temps


Aside from the fact that the gauges look like the shit off of a Walmart bike, who places critical info like turbo boost pressure and oil temps to the lower right of the driver's field of view?

Conclusion: the gauges are for the benefit of the car's passengers. It also wastes valuable centre stack real estate.

[Elusivellama]

Originally Posted by tlh4tung 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review) 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (Review) - YouTube

The review is done by Colum Wood, same guy who pitted the 2012 Si against the MS3 and kept trying to get the test driver to say something bad about the speed even though the driver obviously liked the better performance and handling of the pu.

[Mazda Lover]

Originally Posted by Onelovesoccer Speaking of the RX-8, a 2011 dynoed the same day I did, put down 185/150 corrected on a dyno jet. Sounds like the BRZ could be better deal since it starts $2765 less than the RX-8.

Could have been because it was low mileage. Rotaries get stronger with some miles on em. I think I recall the insideline car gaining a 1/2 sec in the quarter after them putting 30K miles on the motor. I think it has to due with carbon build up raising the compression, but that's just my theory.

[I_Heart_Haters]

gay gay gay gay gay. its still a hyundai

[Crarrs]

@Onelovesoccer

A bit more about the markup/markdown on the BRZ. Dealers are already telling people they're gouging them $5k before the car even shows up. I guess if you've gotta have the first ones, you're gonna have to be willing to pay for it.....

Dealers Already Asking $5,000 Over MSRP on 2013 Subaru BRZ

[jimmy]

Hyundai has no pedigree in sporty cars. They steer vaguely and with zero or horrible feedback.
Mazda on the other hand has a rich pedigree in racing and in sport cars.
I gave the turbo Sonata and the Veloster a drive and I got out just feeling like I might as well drive a Camry and chop my dick off.