good price?

[jlsspeed4]

Guys, so I get the price down to $20,600, the out of door price is $22,364. This is a base MS3 2012. What do you guys think???? YES OR NO? Can I do better?

[EdgeAutosport.com]

thats dirt cheap

[adlpb]

Offer 22 OTD...if not settle for that price. Not bad at all.

[tragik]

not bad at all. what color?

[Sacrilicious]

do you need to trade a car for it? what kind of interest rate on the loan? don't lower your guard until you leave with good numbers on EVERYTHING...

[jlsspeed4]

It's white, 2012 MS3. They said with my credit score the interest will be no more than 3% with my credit score. We'll see...

[adlpb]

What dealer is this?

[specvspeedfreak]

very good price.. just check your TTL numbers and make sure things are straight as well. Don't take their word on the OTD price.. You might be able to catch something that they might try to pull. Dont let them get you on the back end (finiancing side). If your credit it good then 3% sounds right since there is no special Mazda finiancing for the 12's yet.

Don't wait on it though.. thats an awesome price..

[EdgeAutosport.com]

hes canadian since he can haz the white unicorn

[MizzyMS3]

Jump on that. That is really cheap, and white is sex on these cars... good find and post pics when you get it!

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport hes canadian since he can haz the white unicorn

Actually this is a 2012 model. White is available in the US. No more celestial rainbow blue

[specvspeedfreak]

i don't think so.. its an 12'..Canada would be much higher in price as well.

[Sacrilicious]

OTD price is pretty explicit. it's the last number you should see, with no fees attachable to it. grab an alternative source of financing before you go so that they don't have a way to back you into a corner. otherwise, you're ready to go.

[jlsspeed4]

I just emailed him two hours ago to make sure the OTD price he gave me is confirmed. But he hasn't email me back yet... arrgggggg.. I hope he doesn't write back and say no go. Wish me luck.

[Abu Zib]

ask if there are any dealership fees...i almost fell for that, but they had a $999 dealership fee

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by 7MAR ask if there are any dealership fees...i almost fell for that, but they had a $999 dealership fee

Dealer fees should be included in the OTD price.

[specvspeedfreak]

Sometimes state websites will have a registration and tax calulator.. use that to know the exact amount. Dealers will put a rough amount sometimes and tell you that if it is lower, a check will come back to you.. don't believe that hype.. there should also be a tire disposal fee (like $8.50) and maybe a doc fee (depending on the state) ...other than that, you don't need to know the OTD price.. that should be set..you just need to watch out for crap they might pull..

[Sacrilicious]

basically, don't buy the extended warranty, and don't let them rip you off with any stupid excuses on the interest rate.

[G26]

Good price, I got my 2011 for a little bit more than that.

[327whp]

That is a great price for a 12 and White looks sweet in this car. Pull the trigger

[jlsspeed4]

So he wrote back and say it's for a 2012 MS3, white, OTD price @ $22,220. No more than 3% on interest. Now, if I walk in on Saturday and if they give me anything different, I'll drive my old ass Celica GTS into the dealer! J/k

[ColonR]

ha congrats!

[specvspeedfreak]

Saturday?? Go get it now before it sells..

[jv83]

Congrats! Good pick up. I got my 11 fully loaded for 22,040.

[forcedinduktion]

i got ripped off....

[YZF-R6]

Cmon guys, there is a trade-in involved here (said Celica). No dealership can sell the car for that price. I dont care what anyone claims they bought their car for, that is too low.

[Hamilton69]

Since when the hell does US get white?

[SWAY]

when you get a 2012 model like stated before

[thomas_cory2000]

one thing i caution you on for the interest rate...they say its 3%, but they may (will) come back 2 u and say, "well the bank wants to do it for 4.5 or 5 %"...they use that as a ploy to get extra $$ of you for the interest.

[mrmonk7663]

My dealership sold me my car for $22809 plus state tax, title, and license. After we made the deal, it got screwey. I was trading in a vehicle. What they did was and always do is manipulate the numbers for the trade for equity purposes. So everything looks different...but it still should add up exactly the same. I found that after their number manipulation things did not add up. I called them out on it and they said no its correct. So I then took my phone calculator and started doing the math. What I found was there was a $300 fee that was tacked on for seat protectant, that was NOT disclosed on any form. They said they sprayed something blah blah. I forced them to remove that fee. I then further found that they were overcharging me on the sales tax by a small percentage...so I made them take that off too. Then I bought the car.

So, if they give you an out the door price, thats great. What You need is a Breakdown of that price PRIOR to any trade in shit coming into play. You need to know exactly what the state sales tax is, what title/registration fee is, and any pertinent documentation fees that apply. Then add it all up and make sure the numbers match...9x out of 10 they will not. Also, unless it is a credit union doing the financing, 9x out of 10 the finance manager/agent will tell you an interest rate, and hold back anywhere from .5% to 2% on your interest rate so that he can make money off the loan. Unless you can get financing from Mazda for a promotion, your best place for financing will almost always be a local credit union.

[jlsspeed4]

To one of the post, we never discussed trade in yet. I do agree to others, it just sounds shady to me. So I told him to give me an OTD price and he did calculate the sale tax wrong over the phone. And they're charge me $500 something for tag, title and licence??? Does anyone know how much is it usually for PA?

To be honest, I'm excited, but I also being very skeptical about the dealer that I'm going to tomorrow!

[Travis]

My dealer did something like this to me too. It's hard to know everything about dealerships and they bank on you not knowing and or getting confused about it all. Just take your time to read and calculate everything. They always try to rush you so you don't catch something. Luckily I have a friend who's a finance for a Toyota dealership and he told me exactly what to say and do. He's just a finance guy for a small Toyota dealership but he makes 28k a month. Just to put it in perspective of how much they make off of people like us.

[mrmonk7663]

My registration fee was $59.80
My Title app fee was $33.00
My DPS Reg fee was $1.00
Local Fees were $11.50
Tax was $581.81...I had a trade in which lowered tax.

I live in TX

[Willofalltrades]

good price... got my '10 for 21,900... with tech... but the sticker was 25something... get it... white is bad ass... I want one lol

[Stingray69]

You should always go to the stealership and with your own financing approved. You should also not be talking trade in. If you have a good credit score your local bank or credit union will pre-approve you with a good rate. This allows you to talk car price only. I fucking hate it when you walk in and they ask, how much can you spend a month? Good luck!




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[Willofalltrades]

Originally Posted by combustionut You should always go to the stealership and with your own financing approved. You should also not be talking trade in. If you have a good credit score your local bank or credit union will pre-approve you with a good rate. This allows you to talk car price only. I fucking hate it when you walk in and they ask, how much can you spend a month? Good luck! .

dealership gets lower finance rate through automaker's fianace company... if you finance... just saying, your right... but if they are offering 0%... game on ya know

[jlsspeed4]

Well, my skepticism was right! That place is so shady. Here is what went down. Obviously we did the whole internet thing, and of course when come down to the price he wanted to talk on the phone. Sooo, here you go, I went in this morning and asked for Ryan (the internet sale manager), and one of the guys greeted us and turned around and said "Ryan, they're looking for you." Ryan was sitting at the far corner office and yelled, "don't call my name, and have them take a seat." Then I over heard he yelled at this poor guy, "Don't ever do that again". I was like, I smelled shadiness! Long story short, the sale guy gave me the MSRP price and I told him I've been working with Ryan and that's not the price we talked about. So he came back and asked me to open up my email and show him the email. DING DING, duuuhh, they never emailed me any pricing, it was through the phone. I was fucking angry because I knew why he wanted to talk about pricing on the phone, because there won't be any proof about the pricing. All his email was very simple short sentence, so you can't even prove that he gave me a deal. SO I walked out and wanted to just drive my car to the corner office of Ryan, so f'king pissed! Sorry for the rant guys.

[ArcticSpeed3]

Fuck shady dealerships!!!!

I bought my '11 base model for $27k OTD....sadly. Traded in a low mileage 08 CX7 Sport AWD and put $2500 down as well to help out with the negitive equity. I wish I would have thought about it before I pulled the trigger. But I was sold on it right after I test drove it. Whats awesome about Alaska is theres no Sales Tax, but the down fall is dealerships rape us with their mark ups to compensate.

[specvspeedfreak]

yeah.. price was too good to be true if you think about it.. I got my 2011 20.7K.. at the time Mazda had 1k manufacturer to dealer rebate (not 500 like there is now for the 12's) and I got one of the earlier models that had a 400 lower MSRP.. Even at that price, it was still a looser deal for them..Maybe not with possible bonus but you can't factor that in.

[jlsspeed4]

So I wrote a whole email to the GM of the dealership and of course he apologized and asked what's the most I'd pay. Cut to the point, at the end, he said "I looked through Ryan's email and no where he mentioned about pricing. The priced mentioned was what you want....". I'm like, no shiz, like I said earlier, they're well trained not to write the price down on the email. Those fuckers!

My point is, you can't give me the price, that's fine, I understand; business is business. But don't fucking lie to me and tell me to prove it!! arrrggg..

Watch out for Maple Shady NJ Mazda!