I also have a bagged s10 and we would caravan with 20-30 trucks to shows all around california and never had issues with cops or being pulled over for modified suspension which is surprising because we would be tucking tires and riding a few inches off the ground

The certificate is like 20 bucks , these are the rules of the game ... We know we are doing something illegal do the best to not draw attention towards yourself .

I took two years off after my incident and when I bought the 5.0 I said ok just cat deletes and a tune lol ..... Year + later and I'm knee deep into NA mods etc ..... But my car looks bone stock from outside and idles good enough to not draw attention , at WOT though u can literally hear it 3 blocks away . Already got two tickets one for dragging a ctsv and American cars always get more love from popo

First thing I'd do is remove the tint and put that front plate on. If they can impound just for having the ticket, my luck a motor cop having a bad day would stop me and I'd be going to the impound lot and paying major coin.

this should be a sticky for the California Nator/MSF folks....

More fighting it than proving them wrong, since regardless it's against the law. I don't know I just thought I had more entitlement to prove something but the ref is the ref. Stocking out soon, maybe next week

Wonder what would happen if you welded a 3rd or a 4th cat to make the exhaust even cleaner. :D

Got the ref date. May 12th. Smog test and a dB test for the exhaust checking if its over 95 dB

Edit: $116.25 for all of this according to the lady on the phone

In all seriousness you would fail the ref.

I do remember seeing a sign posted that the decibel test fee was going to increase. Part of one of the things we voted to fund the last election. That fee goes to find whatever it was.

If I'm not mistaken, if your car is registered in Texas and you get caught with a traffic violation out of state, you get double the fines/penalties or double the points in our point system or something to that extent. Now I'm not sure if what the OP got caught with is a traffic violation, but I suppose we all have to be careful when we visit Cali with our cars.

Traffic violation is unlikely. Pulled off the freeway to all green lights (only had to pass 2) and

then proceeded to the long straightaway toward the shop following the speed limit. Cop claims

it just had to do with my exhaust noise. Doesn't seem believable because I was cruising at 65

the whole way and coasting trying to make the exhaust not drone too much. But whatever

wow. well fuck cali. if i ever visit i will ride my bicycle thank you very much.

http://i.imgur.com/OfIL7Or.jpg

One of my friends got a DUI on a bicycle, in, wait for it, Coronado, California.... Would be funny if it weren't true.....



But it isn't respectable. It's mildly terrifying. And that actually makes it quite appealing. - Mazda 3 MPS review, Matthew Jones, Top Gear.

It sucks but you just become more low key . The laws aren't really for pollution , they're for revenue .

My car as it sits does not have a single CARB part on it , don't even have cats ... But runs pure E85 since June , haven't put 1 drop of gasoline on it Since , so it should actually not only polute less but doesn't deplete our limited resources ..... You would think that was enough to be legal .... But it isn't , so .... What are they really after ?

Your money , as always

How dare you say such a blasphemous thing about our upstanding government officials! :laugh2:

You had me worried, so i looked it up...

TX Speeding Ticket And Traffic Ticket FAQs at DMV.org: The DMV Made Simple

From what I gathered from that, we'll get the same points out of state that we would in state.

You caught my eye since I drive to CA at least once a year from Austin.

Jesus these laws seem crazy in California. In Pennsylvania, specifically Philadelphia, we do not need a decibel meter to gauge the exhaust sound. If we reasonably believe it's not oem, we can pull you over for it. Our tint statute also does not list a specific percentage. It just states if you cannot see the occupants of the vehicle you are in violation.

Now it seems that California officers are allowed to search your engine bay if they have probable cause. An exhaust modification, accessport, etc. are most likely probable cause because they are signs of engine modification. On another note, many people said they will refuse this search because they need a search warrant. Commonwealth V. Gary, which is a supreme court decision meaning it is a standard that must be followed country wide, states that if probable cause exists (in this case, illegal modifications) an officer DOES NOT need a search warrant to search the vehicle.

You just picked the wrong State to live in lol. I wouldn't say the cop is an asshole, he is just doing what the law requires. He took an oath to enforce the law and he is payed tax payer money to enforce the law. In my opinion, other than having a strict officer, nothing the officer did was illegal.

My billion dollar idea, make performance parts that look like stock parts from manufacturer.

I thought about that. Plus, manufacturers are much smarter than aftermarket engineers with much larger budgets. So, design parts that are basically stock but work 10-20% better using a similar to stock design with optimizations.

Reason I will be pulling off my tint and usually do.. And the reason I love my Greddy exhaust.. Its quiet as hell. I do not want to draw any attention from the police.. no tint, low noise exhaust, and not super slammed is a bonafied win here

Easy solution move to FL :)

Whats COMPLETELY $%$% up is that motorcycles can run around with those dam pipes loud as hell and its ok.. WTF

Yeah man....but.Loud pipes save lives brah...you should know that.

rofl..


It's all about the money, like Rodrigo said. Period, the end.

Nooo, it's about cleaning California. Yeahehhh

https://youtu.be/SiDFihP4CTc

get an american car and the cops wont fuck with u as much lol

This is a true statement.

That's because it's the precedent set, all Harleys are pretty much loud as Fuck. Take sport compacts. You have a nice speed with exhaust and it sounds good. Then you have a automatic 2000 civic with cut resonator and an eBay muffler sounding like straight asshole. People that aren't into cars don't really see the difference. Then you get a person with a badge, he categorizes you the same as the numb nut rocking the 50$ exhaust.

i've been thinking about putting the stock catback back on after getting my dp. it's way louder than i thought it would be.

currently running the cpe catback :X don't know how it compares to the ARK

If you're talking about the CPE triton exhaust, then I think yours is louder than my ARK since

you have two small mufflers. On a side note: My ref date is tomorrow. It was a huge pain in

the ass, but the car is fully stock now :bigeyes:

I cant wait for my Texas plates to get here. I recently transfered my title and registration to Texas just to avoid this. I shouldve done it when i bought the car, but i didnt think i was gonna do alot of mods lol. A built motor, 6th port, meth, and gtx3071 later....I'm not playing these bullshit emissions games with the CHP.

They will just instead pull you over for not having CA tags after 90 days instead. Of course, that would take the same cop noticing you over and over which is probably damn near impossible.

How'd you get registered in TX without a state inspection? Or State insurance?

Congrats, glad you finally got fixed!

And playing hardball I see...

Im in the military, so i have a valid excuse :smokin: No inspections for me.

so i was talking to a buddy of mine. apparently he got ref'd 3 times while he had his evo9. stocked out the first time and went to the ref. he said he got his ref'd at fullerton community college and said they were pretty chill.

GL with your ref test bro! Thankfully the metro Vancouver, BC area got rid of "Aircare" recently, and like Cali, new cars were exempt for a certain period, then had longer testing intervals than pre 2k models. But even when aircare (smog testing on a dyno etc) existed all you needed to do was insure the vehicle outside the metro area and you where good.

Yea my reffing was done at Fullerton College also, and to be honest, they were not chill at all. I fully got into it with them.

So today when I took my car, they did a full visual inspection of the outside of the car, the interior, and the engine bay. Unlucky for me, I left the XS power manifold on the car and forgot to uninstall it. They put my car on a lift and kept going back and forth for about 45 minutes. After some time, 2 of the mechanics come in to the waiting room I was in and start questioning about the manifold, and I just told them that my stock one cracked, having it to be replaced with the xs power. They also questioned my boost gauge and my air fuel gauge.

As time goes on, I saw them put my car on the smog roller dyno and test my exhaust dB. Thinking to myself that I PASSED everything, I started to relax a little.

The guy comes in and makes me sign 4 different papers, and then says "Your car didn't pass the decibel test, nor the smog test and failed due to the header you have." Thinking to myself that its impossible that I failed being that the only difference between an aftermarket and stock manifold is the design, I start looking at the papers with the results as I head back to my car shocked and see that on the smog papers, it says PASS for all the emission tests that were done. I go over to the side of the page that describes the exhaust decibel test and they recorded my exhaust (stock) to be 81 dB, and they proceeded to check off "Did not pass."

Getting slightly pissed, I started questioning them what was the problem with making me not pass the test. They proceeded to tell me that since I have an exhaust header, I failed the "visual" inspection, but passed the emission and functionality inspection. Since I didn't pass the visual, they failed me for both exhaust and for the smog (even when on the papers it clearly says PASS on all the test, which I think is stupid)

MY argument is this: who in the world cares about a visual inspection when i'm passing the emission test and the exhaust test. Im not polluting the air, and i'm not making and loud noises with the exhaust that would break the law...so whats the problem? After stating my side of the argument, they told me I can either come back with a stock header, or fight it at court.

In conclusion: yea I shouldn't have left the manifold in there, but then again, I have proof I went to the ref and passed all the test. Im just gonna show all the proof in court and state my argument and hope for the best. The ref told me i'm most likely just gonna get a fine and then have it written off..

Total fuckers :dance:

EDIT: I forgot that they also put me down at the ref that my boost pressure guage can not have a T fitting from the line that connects to the BOV, making it illegal. He said I have to find "another source" to read boost, but tapping into any of the hoses are "illegal"

See post 4.

Seems the most logical

That sounds like a bunch of horse cock to me. On a lighter note my Texas plates should be here in a few days :biggthumpup: