Have all Bolt-ons except DP and TM/FMIC - What next?
 

My current power mods:

-Corksport catless mid pipe
-Corksport catback exhaust
-JBR intake and turbo inlet
-Corksport high pressure fuel pump internals
-Corksport bypass valve
-91 Octane Tune by Freektune (best fuel I can access in my region).

Based on my research (I've tried I promise), my next logical step would be a better intercooler and a DP. My question is, if I don't plan on going big turbo is this worth my dollars? Should I do one and not bother with the other?

I'd value some thoughts on my exact build before I progress. Thank you!

Im actually in the same boat my friend! In for some responses. wishing i had the cs cat back though. I have the magnaflow and it leaves a bit to be desired in the sound department. Still happy with it though!

If you're in a race to acquire all bolt-ons then just get them all and put them on. If you're after real power then just get a higher flowing catted downpipe and a WMI kit and re-do your tune with Justin.

If you do more research not only on our car, its is well known that a DP, HPFP, Intake, FMIC, and the right tune will net you the most power gain . So bolt it on and enjoy your ride.

DP will also increase the chances of failing turbo seals.

IMO if this car is your daily and you aren't trying to get every ounce of power out of the stock turbo leave it where it is and work on suspension and your own driving skills. I've been down both roads and I much prefer my second car than my first.

I like this thought. Im only tempted to add a downpipes for the added exhaust note, the magnaflow with race pipe is pretty tame. The few added hp is welcomed as well, I'm just afraid it will be negligible. The last thing i was is for this turbo to crap out prematurely on me.

get a cp-e or corksport catback, you'll never need any more noise.

I echo what @anavrinIV; says. If this is going to be your daily and never see autox or track duty just leave it where it is and enjoy. Spend the money on good summer tires and a nice stereo.

Any suspension or drivetrain upgrades are going to make the car worse to drive every day. There's a reason I have an Outback for my daily now that my MS3 has coilovers, a beefer RSB, and super-stiff motor mounts on it. It's f'n brutal on bumpy roads and the engine vibrations get real annoying on any drive longer than 20 minutes. Not to mention my rear-view mirror is blurry.
It's well documented that a catless DP is going to kill the stock turbo quick. So only go dp if you're ready to make the jump to aftermarket turbo.

well idk about OP, but you guys convinced me to not go the downpipe route..lol I will likely just wait till a CS, UR, or Cp-e exhaust go up for sale. Maybe a tmic, who knows.

Both TMIC and DP are good mods, if the DP is catted as I mentioned above.

I'd upgrade the tmic. Unless you bump up boost you'll be running way more efficiently.

And it's a much easier install compared to the DP.

From these replies is looks like the best decision would be a catted downpipe and a tmic.

What do u mean unless you bump up boost? I'm at 20psi.

It sucks because legally I can have no cats and I already have the race pipe.

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If you're running 20psi you should definitely be running a more efficient intercooler.

So, no offense dude, but you can go fully mounted, upgrade the suspension to something significantly stiffer, and still have DD compatible comfort. I realize that you haven't been in my car for a while, but I can assure you that my cabin is about as quiet as it gets for cars with even half my modifications.

I haven't ridden in your car in a long time, but you went with a cheap coilover set and probably got what you paid for. Don't discourage other people from doing suspension upgrades just because you don't like your setup. My suspension upgrades (for like the 5k miles that they functioned correctly before parts started to break) were literally some of the best upgrades I ever did to my car. There are OTS solutions that can offer most of what my setup has for less money, and less hassle, too. That's why I've become such a huge fan of suspension upgrades, especially if you do any degree of twisty-road driving in these cars.

I've done nothing to improve handling on my car. In fact made it worse with 16" wheels and squishy tires.

Buy most of my time is spent on straight roads with long sweeps.

It's different because you're in Texas. OP's got mountains in the background of his avatar (no idea where he lives though), so I'm assuming he gets to enjoy some twisties like ChaunceyM and I up in PA. :)

OP is in most likely in British Columbia, Canada.

Although that is true (good guess) I'm still just looking for input on my next Bolt-ons

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What lol are you lol trying to lol achieve lol? ...lol? It would help us lol help you lol chose your lol best mods lol. ...lol.

Bolt on a fleshlight so you can please yourself.

This is what I opted for. Upgraded TMIC and test pipe. Both sitting here waiting to be installed, but it seemed like the best option for me. I looked at the full DP and that install looked like a whole lot of nope, at least for me at this point. I also keep a cat to pass emissions and to, hopefully, not murder the turbo so quickly.

I guess it all depends on goals/plans though.

Im now going back on my decision. May i WILL get a downpipe....:thinking: just got my tax return. :biggrin: It seems like the research I've done is leading me to believe that the addition of the downpipe wont accelerate the death of my turbo. However, it will tell me whether on not my turbo is smoking. The cat sorta just hides this, and your sorta just taking a chance with the downpipe and seeing if your turbo is in good health or not. Am i wrong?

Run a catless dp, cpe stage 2 rmm, and a short throw shifter upgrade.

might end up going catless.. the sound would go real nice with my magnaflow cat back. Hows the short throw shifter feel on these cars? I drove my buddies sti, and it felt almost too short.

I have the short shifter, it's nice, but quite notchy compared to stock.

I may just go catless as well. It seems to be 50/50 people saying it will reduce the life of my stock turbo.

Catless is life.

I'm running without the felines, i have no issues.

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Yea i could imagine! I wasn't a fan of how it felt, although it was a new thing to me. I didn't like the RMM at first, now i don't notice it.

Yea dude! Some people say its going to kill the turbo, others are saying it won't hurt it, but it will just show any existing issues with it already. So, im lost. lol Seeing as i just got a deecent tax return, it's hard not to just purchase the downpipe.

Living in Canada blows though. Our dollar is worth nothing, and it makes buying things online pretty annoying. Ultimate racing downpipe comes up to like 400$ or something stupid like that, maybe even a bit more.

Honestly, the difference power wise between a dp and a tp is something you prob won't feel. I forgot where I read it but someone on here posted up a short tale of how he ran against 2 of his buddies 1. Stock exhaust 2. Tp 3. Dp and they were all so close that it just really came down to the driver. To each their own.

yea that's a good point. I want to do it for 1. the sound, and 2. any possible power increase. So idk... if i can find one for a good price I will probably buy one.

If you want some sound just do a resonator delete. I have tp with no resonators (just muffler) and ppl ask me all the time what exhaust I'm running bc it sounds so sex.


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Hmm, well i have a magnaflow catback with a test pipe already. But it sounds the same volume as the stock exhaust when i hate a test pipe and still had my resonator.

So im a little bummed, I was hoping for more. It's not loud at all, so im hoping the addition of a catless downpipe will really wake it up.

I watched literally every single video on YouTube of different exhaust sounds and setups before I made my decision. Granted the videos won't do it absolute justice, but You'll eventually find the sound you're wanting.


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Dude! me too! I honestly would kill for an ultimate racing cat back. I got this one for a good deal though so i jumped on it. Probably should have waited. Oh well, like you said, ill eventually find he sound i want.

I think that's a bit harsh, but I can't discredit you. And you might be right. I haven't ridden in your car, or many other cars with stiffened suspensions. I love my setup, except for any section of road with potholes, heaves, construction, etc. Which is a non-trivial percentage of my daily commuting. If you have nice smooth roads around you it's a different story.
Next time you're in the area let's go for a ride so I can see how your setup does. I did what I did because I felt it was the best option for what I was trying to do. And for the purpose it's for it's great. But lowering and stiffening the suspension was not something that made my commute smoother.
I'm also considering the 88-duro motor mounts in my statement. That's what creates the steady NVH in the cabin and results in blurry rear-view mirrors. Again, exactly what I needed for its purpose, which wasn't a comfy daily drive.

My Diamond mounts are 88 duro as well, but the design of them results in less noise than the JBR.

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If you get the CPE, make sure you get the optional muffler or you'll ragret it.

I'm in a similar position, OP: my catless racepipe is due to arrive this week, and then we'll be essentially matched for upgrades except that I've got the CS TMIC instead of catback. Personally, my focus (after e-tune) is going to be on suspension and 'maintenance' upgrades. Going to finally add a RSB/chassis bracing and get an OCC, as well as EGR delete and brake work. DP sounds like a bit too much of a PITA for my skill level, and I think I'll be at a pretty adequate power level with the mods I've got, so focus is going to switch to handling and reducing wear as much as possible on the current components.