Help Smoking Turbo

[Instrument_Guy]

Did you guys think about running a B-Noon Bolt?? Seemed to help a lot of Genjuan guys with their smoking issues

[Raider]

Its the bnoon bolt. Made by @bnoon and yup, it's good.:rocketwhore

[Sid3wayS]

I told him about it, running thicker oil, and upping his rpm; but he says he sees those all as more or less band aids to the issue rather then an actual fix(can't argue much on that one). He is set on getting a fix for the seals wether it be a new turbo or getting his current turbo reworked.

[Dash08]

Late to the party here.

Everything I would have said has already been covered. No reason to reiterate.

Best piece of advice so far was from ATV. Tell the service writers it smokes on long drives.

Word of advice to everyone, always stock out 100% for dealer visits unless you have first hand experience with a cool dealership that accepts modded cars.

No matter how ridiculous or unrelated it may seem. You do not want to start a case under the Magnuson-Moss act. You'll be up way past your bedtime. Especially against a corporate powerhouse.

[dcamp2]

1. Drive super hard until you really kill the turbo seals.

2. Stock out.

3. Get new turbo.

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by dcamp2 1. Drive super hard until you really kill the turbo seals. 2. Stock out. 3. Get new turbo.

Despite initial impressions of this comment, this really isn't that horrible of an idea.

[Sid3wayS]

Problem with that is what do you do when you blow the motor instead of the seal?

[D08SPEED3]

Bump idle up with AP and call it a day! Even if you get a new Turbo it'll be a matter of time until that one smokes. I have EVERY bandaid fix...Bnoon Bolt, PTP Pill, Thicker Oil, AP Idle bump. Toodles....

[dcamp2]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Problem with that is what do you do when you blow the motor instead of the seal?

Why would the motor go first? You think burning a bunch of oil is going to break the motor?


I really don't know, my turbo popped all at once, so it didn't get driven around much while smoking.

[melbaro]

Does @bnoon still make and sell these bolts? I'm looking to go catless on Wednesday and I definitely don't want my turbo leaving diarrhea streaks all over my garage!

[Proshop]

Originally Posted by IAM Does @bnoon still make and sell these bolts? I'm looking to go catless on Wednesday and I definitely don't want my turbo leaving diarrhea streaks all over my garage!

Hahahaha I almost spit chips at my tv when I read that.

Some one on here was selling them. I want to say it was JBR. Mel do a search and see if it was him. I think I read it about a month ago or so.

[melbaro]

Originally Posted by Proshop Hahahaha I almost spit chips at my tv when I read that. Some one on here was selling them. I want to say it was JBR. Mel do a search and see if it was him. I think I read it about a month ago or so.

Haha!! I wish I could have seen that! My last search yielded posts from back in 2009, but I'll try and refine it some.

[Proshop]

Originally Posted by IAM Haha!! I wish I could have seen that! My last search yielded posts from back in 2009, but I'll try and refine it some.

Got it: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...x-bolt-105363/

[melbaro]

Originally Posted by Proshop Got it: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...x-bolt-105363/

Thanks Billy, you are the man! Heading over there now!!

[Proshop]

Originally Posted by IAM Thanks Billy, you are the man! Heading over there now!!

No prob Mel!! Always glad to help.

[Payne Racing 67]

I stopped by Jason's when he called me and told me he's smoking. I took the car for a drive and then inspected. I can say the seals are definitely going/shot. You can smell burning oil through the exhaust and there's quite a bit of smoke. Jay I'd do one of 3 things. Try and talk to the Mazda service managers and see who's mod friendly, trade in on a 2012, or mod up again and rip on it till it gets worse, then stock out again so you can get warrantied. Although honestly for all the work it'd be I'd just put the DP and TP back in and fuck the rest.

[Schmitty5]

Stocking out just seems so fuckin ridiculous to me, but hey, if you have the time/garage/2 cars to do so, then fuck it if thats the way you want to handle it.

I'm still a fan of calling around dealerships and finding a service manager whos cool. And if you can't find one, go BT! reach out to your NATOR chapter for labor

[speed3sb]

I have to say i got my 2009 and 6 months later i started modding the car..Then track days and more track days.....Once i dd the full cobb catback and driving out to the track at 4am at a high speed i noticed some smoke at idle....I got one and a half sessions in at the track then boom the turbo went.....I said screw all the time to covert back to stock and deal with the stealership...So i went with the bigger turbo and an even better tune...Also i just happen to have a Mazda race shop in town so they just work on the car and i say fuck the warrenty.....I would say fuck your stock turbo go bigger it only makes sense and the car will love you for it! oh and no more smoke...

[p057]

Originally Posted by Proshop Hahahaha I almost spit chips at my tv when I read that.

You use your TV to read these forums? Im confused...

[Dash08]

Originally Posted by p057 You use your TV to read these forums? Im confused...

So do I.

It's the shit.

[Proshop]

Originally Posted by p057 You use your TV to read these forums? Im confused...

Yes I use my 50 inch plasma as my computer monitor and for alot more other things. I said fuck buying another 22 inch monitor when I can use my tv and sit my ass on the couch and do everything all in one.

[melbaro]

Originally Posted by Proshop Yes I use my 50 inch plasma as my computer monitor and for alot more other things. I said fuck buying another 22 inch monitor when I can use my tv and sit my ass on the couch and do everything all in one.

Shit...pornos streaming on a 50" in HD! I'd be spitting more than chips...

...and I'm assuming that's what you mean by "other things" haha!

[Proshop]

Originally Posted by IAM Shit...pornos streaming on a 50" in HD! I'd be spitting more than chips... ...and I'm assuming that's what you mean by "other things" haha!

I choose to neither confirm or deny that good sir.


@Blackedout1978 Any update on your car?

[Blackedout1978]

Still stock in the garage, I did go under the car to do the RMM with @Sid3wayS and saw oil coming from the turbo. It seems ill just bring it in and say i saw oil on the driveway, and the place i just brought it to for oil change said they saw oil up under the turbo. Its been real busy thats why i havent brought it in yet. Like i said the car drives fine and it doesnt smoke catted. Hopefully all goes well when my wife brings it in after Easter.

[Sid3wayS]

Yeah the oil line was covered in oil, enough to actualy start dripping down onto the rmm. His seals are totaly gone. I told him if the dealer ends up denying his claim just to stay stock for a while so that his cats finnaly take a shyt. With all that oily smoke that they are burning off it's only a matter of time.

[Blackedout1978]

Ok heres whats up i got the car back and they replaced:

REPLACE GASKETS FOR OIL RETURN PIPE
L3K9-14-264 GASKET,OIL OUTLET PI
L3K9-14-293 GASKET,OIL PIPE

Do you guys think that that was the problem?
Im going to put the downpipe and the test pipe back on and see if the smoke starts again. If it doesnt well we just found the problem...and feedback would be much appreciated.

[Proshop]

Guess its a possibility that was the problem. My guess is with every body else and its the turbo seals. But put the DP back on and see how she does. You will need to give it a few days to let the residual oil that may be left in some spots to burn off. Definitely keep us posted on what happens thou.

[rghispanic88]

let tha shit rip. whos gonna install the god damn downpipe again? since you dont have any tools.

[Blackedout1978]

I actually just invested in some tools @rghispanic88. I think i still need to grab a few more but, with @Sid3wayS help and yours i think we can get it done in world record setting fashion like last time. Also your hard drive is ready haha call me later..

[Sid3wayS]

Lol I say we make him drive to us this time do the install at your house and have jason in the kitchen cooking with your wife Lol.

[Blackedout1978]

And yes the plan is to ride out and check the leak and see if it comes back. If it stays gone we are going to put the test pipe on then downpipe no other mods to see if it smokes catless then we will take it from there.

haha i would but that makes no sense in waiting 4 hours for the DP to cool off. But if you want to lol

[Sid3wayS]

Well that depends wat can you cook in 4 hours lol

[Blackedout1978]

lmao

[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by Blackedout1978 lmao

fuck thats right. it dont matter, we'll hose that bitch down until it cools down. LOL

i've done it after driving the car but it sucks balls

[Sid3wayS]

Dudes all it takes is 2 fans sitting on top of the motor for 1/2 an hour. Ive done it before.

[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Dudes all it takes is 2 fans sitting on top of the motor for 1/2 an hour. Ive done it before.

i guess so, fuck it then

[Blackedout1978]

looks like its fixed with what they did. We went catless tonight and no smoke at idle.

[Blackedout1978]

O yea and i put some RottellaT6 in

[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by Blackedout1978 O yea and i put some RottellaT6 in

Good for job. Who helped you with the install?

[Sid3wayS]

Monday when I got off work.