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darkrune 04-11-2012 11:20 AM

hks ssqv no sound?
 
I installed my ssqv today in full recirc, but hear nothing. I have stock intake right now and cant hear the bov.
There are no cel's. The recirc hose is a tad crimped. Cant figure it out. Constructive thoughts please.

Dash08 04-11-2012 11:23 AM

Since you donated, I won't groan you. Consider this a get out of jail free card.

You need an aftermarket intake in order for the BPV to be audible.

Stock airbox is too restrictive.

Broxer 04-11-2012 11:25 AM

if you just want sound then unhook and block off the recirc hose and enjoy your car running like shit.

Aftermarket TIP and Intake will make it a tad bit louder but it's not going to sound like it does on the youtube videos. Because small turbo.

bigriver 04-11-2012 11:26 AM

The stock intake muffles the sound. Maybe if you disconnect the plastic piece that feeds the air going into the box you might hear it idk.

If you are using the stock recirc hose, it will crimp because the hks angle is different from stock bpv.

Why I'm being so nice idk. But did you really have to ask if you are on stock intake?

Sid3wayS 04-11-2012 11:26 AM

What he ^ said. But don't be disappointed even after an intake. The hks is not loud at all, maybe a little more then the stock bpv. My new forge on the other hand is as loud as a trumpet.

bigriver 04-11-2012 11:30 AM

When I had hks (on cpe sri) it sounded like a compressed air tank at blow off, lol. But I sold mine because stock bpv is good enough for my needs.

Dash08 04-11-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigriver (Post 1355014)
The stock intake muffles the sound. Maybe if you disconnect the piece the feeds the air going into the box you might hear it idk.

If you are using the stock recirc hose, it will crimp because the hks angle is different from stock.

Why I'm being so nice idk. But did you really have to ask if you are on stock intake?

Altering his factory intake still isn't going to make it audible. It's just too restrictive. Unless he wanted to drill swiss cheese holes all over his airbox, he needs an aftermarket intake.

We don't really think about that because that's usually our first mod.

Back in 08' the only SRI was the cobb and they were on national back order for over a year. Some of us had no choice but to tear up the factory intake. I don't recommend it at all. The gains are negligible and it's ghetto as shit.

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 11:33 AM

without trying to get too bashy, why did you feel you needed to change it in the first place? Unless you're running more than 18psi it literally will only sound different, thus making it a ricer mod. Since you don't even have an intake yet, I'm assuming this is the case.

Payne Racing 67 04-11-2012 11:35 AM

Fuck it get AP, intake, fp internals, and get tuned for VTA. I have HKS on VTA and its loud as fuck lol. And I'm tuned for it so it runs right.

bigriver 04-11-2012 11:37 AM

I'm running 19.5 psi on stock bpv.

Now that all constructive comments are in, can we have some fun?

NCZ13 04-11-2012 11:42 AM

The hks is pretty damn loud with a metal inlet and short ram. It even got a big louder affter my front mount install.

Way louder than a buddies with a mazdaspeed cai, metal inlet and a turbosmart. his was almost inaudible

darkrune 04-11-2012 11:45 AM

I was concerned that something was wrong, not that it would be super loud. If I wanted loud then I would have gotten a turboxs bov kit. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing. Also, I did search youtube and forums for info. Youtube has a stock airbox setup that was decently loud, but also vta. I ordered a cs tip sri, they just didnt have it in stock so i had to wait three weeks. Should be here next week. Pretty excited. The forge seemed cool, but the ping would make me nuts. Also, i have had similar set ups on card i have turboed and it was still pretty audible. I am still learning about this platform so thanks for no groans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payne Racing 67 (Post 1355037)
Fuck it get AP, intake, fp internals, and get tuned for VTA. I have HKS on VTA and its loud as fuck lol. And I'm tuned for it so it runs right.

. I have an ap. Internals, tip, and sri in mail. Cooler sparks are waiting for internals install to be put in.

Dash08 04-11-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazda Baiter (Post 1355033)
without trying to get too bashy, why did you feel you needed to change it in the first place? Unless you're running more than 18psi it literally will only sound different, thus making it a ricer mod.

I don't know, man. I understand the logic behind this, but in my experience there has been a slight noticeable difference with aftermarket BPV's over stock.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it yields any more power, but there is definitely a small difference in drivability.

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 11:52 AM

I could only really see there being a difference if you have FFS enabled.

Dash, just noticed what an OG you are, how do you not know the answer to EVERYTHING? lol

TRex 04-11-2012 11:54 AM

or you could not run in resirc


why do you want to hear it anyway? it totally ruins the surprise aspect of this car


*looks up at what section he is in*


well then...
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...204840swsw.gif

Broxer 04-11-2012 11:56 AM

My forge V2 went from slightly louder than stock to really loud when i went BT. Another possible solution.

bigriver 04-11-2012 11:57 AM

OP - if you still get crimping with the cs intake, find a supplier that sells reinforced silicone hoses or worst case, order the cpe hose. You could also try and flip the ends of the oem hose around and see if that works.

darkrune 04-11-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dash08 (Post 1355065)
I don't know, man. I understand the logic behind this, but in my experience there has been a slight noticeable difference with aftermarket BPV's over stock.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it yields any more power, but there is definitely a small difference in drivability.

I have noticed some better response, but really I am just a HKS fanboi.

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1355080)
or you could not run in resirc


why do you want to hear it anyway? it totally ruins the surprise aspect of this car


*looks up at what section he is in*


well then...
http://gifs.gifbin.com/3204840swsw.gif

GOD DAMN YOU.

and your image is a fail

TRex 04-11-2012 12:58 PM

dah fuck you talking about, my image is baller

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1355200)
dah fuck you talking about, my image is baller

No, it is not.

TRex 04-11-2012 01:46 PM

mo fucka

it was this one

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...204840swsw.gif

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 01:47 PM

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lol Fail round 2 champ.

bigriver 04-11-2012 02:05 PM

OP - is this what you were expecting? Maybe open your hood and do the same as this guy

But driving with it is different with hood closed and road noise.


TRex 04-11-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome (Post 1355296)
lol Fail round 2 champ.

nah nah check again

SofaKingAwesome 04-11-2012 02:16 PM

about time you didn't fuck it up!

Payne Racing 67 04-11-2012 03:57 PM

^that car is running VTA....in recirc it sounds completely different.

Dash08 04-11-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome (Post 1355077)
I could only really see there being a difference if you have FFS enabled.

Dash, just noticed what an OG you are, how do you not know the answer to EVERYTHING? lol

I wasn't aware I gave the wrong answer.

Sometimes, real world answers don't coincide with popular theory.

I'm not basing my post off of anything other than actual experience. Unlike so many who will refute what I say simply because many others have said it before.

darkrune 04-25-2012 10:13 AM

OK so I have everything on and it is functioning properly. It is a really exciting experience driving my car now and I am quite happy with how much better the responsiveness is in the vehicle. A lot of people say that the original bpv is the same, but I have noticed at 19 lbs there is a pretty biggy difference in how quickly the SSQV closes.

So suck it groaners.

P.S. Sounds fucking awesome.

EDIT: I found some more information on why the SSQV closes more quickly. It is because it is a pull valve instead of a push valve. Which means boost pressure actually helps it close much faster.

faeker 04-25-2012 10:15 AM

stab yourself OP

darkrune 04-25-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faeker (Post 1380577)
stab yourself OP

Ah don't be jealous or those KMD's might sieze.

On a side note, why does SSQV get so much hate? Because it makes sound? First off it is an awesome design and function; secondly it makes a nice healthy sound.

Rich990 04-25-2012 11:09 AM

my ssqv (in recirc) caused lag. took that shit off and stocked out.

darkrune 04-25-2012 11:59 AM

Odd because I noticed just the opposite with mine. How much boost are you running?

Rich990 04-25-2012 12:07 PM

stock tune so stock boost. got it in anticipation of getting a tune + internals + DP (that i still havent got).

it was a replica anyway, so i turfed it and been happy with the stocker.

m4tic 04-25-2012 12:09 PM

wtf... A discussion about a BOV?

Msf247.com

darkrune 04-25-2012 12:21 PM

Yep. Got anything good for us?? I noticed that a lot of people don't use BoV's in this forum. They just use aftermarket BPV's or stockers. Anyone have an experience like mine, where you actually had a better response out of your vehicle?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich990 (Post 1380790)
stock tune so stock boost. got it in anticipation of getting a tune + internals + DP (that i still havent got).

it was a replica anyway, so i turfed it and been happy with the stocker.

With a replica, I don't know how that would effect performance. I do know 2 things are needed. A vac filter and a gasket. If you don't have either of those things and not in recirc, then you might have issues.

m4tic 04-25-2012 12:31 PM

Well this forum is geared toward performance, not looks or sounds. The less hp something will net, the farther down the mod list it is, unless it's crucial.

I was a bit on the ricer tip too at one point lol

darkrune 04-25-2012 12:34 PM

I have noticed this, which is fine. I don't like spinners, altezzas, and huge spoilers either. The BoV is actually pretty important in terms of holding boost. A leaking BPV/BoV will cause bad things to happen. No one talks about this stuff and maybe there are some people that do, but afraid to. I got groaned for it, oh well.

m4tic 04-25-2012 12:40 PM

Oh there's been plenty of discussion about the stock BPV and if it leaks or not. Just a lot of folks are not having a problem with it.

I have a V1 SSQV laying around. my car ran better with the stocker, and now a forge v1.

darkrune 04-25-2012 12:42 PM

I never liked stage I SSQV because you can adjust them. With IV you don't need to adjust shit.


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