how's my car doing?

[Bautista]

i just bought my speed3 about a month and a half ago with 80,000 miles . i just got an AP last week and did a few logs. can some please tell me how my car is doing? i also changed the spark plugs not long ago to ngk 95369 and gapped them to 0.032

[StevenW]

No clue what the oem heat range plugs are, but if you really want to know how your car is doing why not just do a compression test?

[KiwiFlavor]

Your plugs should be gapped at 0.026-0.028.

Check this thread out

Spark Plug Database - Colder Than Stock ( Stage 1&2 )

Tho I'm pretty sure that the stock heat range NGKs are now NGK ILTR6A-7G.

[Vitamin M]

Those numbers to me all look OK. Is it gen 2 ? What gas were you running at the time.

[Bautista]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Those numbers to me all look OK. Is it gen 2 ? What gas were you running at the time.

Yeah its a genpu 2011. 91 running on a stage 1 ots map

[Vitamin M]

Yeah ok everything looks good.

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[Bautista]

Originally Posted by KiwiFlavor Your plugs should be gapped at 0.026-0.028. Check this thread out Spark Plug Database - Colder Than Stock ( Stage 1&2 ) Tho I'm pretty sure that the stock heat range NGKs are now NGK ILTR6A-7G.

On the welcome PM it said the 95369 were the oem ones

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Yeah ok everything looks good. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Thanks man!

[Vitamin M]

Yeah see this gapping confusion is unnecessary to worry about with the logs i see and your mods/boost. Its a non isssue. Not to mentioned todays gaps should not be retouched. They come pre gapped. And you might ruin them more than anything.

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[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Yeah see this gapping confusion is unnecessary to worry about with the logs i see and your mods/boost. Its a non isssue. Not to mentioned todays gaps should not be retouched. They come pre gapped. And you might ruin them more than anything. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

You need to stop giving out incorrect information, like right now.

Ah, from Canada, makes sense. If it isn't about stretching tires, or getting more camber, just let the experts give advice about making power.

[Vitamin M]

OK expert go ahead. Because there, at NGK they have no idea what they are doing. They should be reading your posts and maybe NGK can improve their business.

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[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M OK expert go ahead. Because there, at NGK they have no idea what they are doing. They should be reading your posts and maybe NGK can improve their business. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

If you even cared to do a little reading, you would know what the recommended gap is for NGK plugs for our cars.

If you had done that, then you wouldn't come out of this looking like a retard. But here we are...

[cardoc4u]

.025" for the win

[stockms3]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M OK expert go ahead. Because there, at NGK they have no idea what they are doing. They should be reading your posts and maybe NGK can improve their business. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

I had to regap all my NGK spark plugs........

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by stockms3 I had to regap all my NGK spark plugs........

Same here.

[Vitamin M]

Never re gapped and never had an issue...

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[texasboy21]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Never re gapped and never had an issue... Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Did you check the gap??

[MS3Shadow]

Originally Posted by texasboy21 Did you check the gap??

Probs not.

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[oldognewtriks]

0.32" is a bit much on these cars but hey, if it makes ya happy then more power to ya. I've already blown two engines in an '07 model so with my '11 model I err on the side of caution. Personally I go no larger than 0.25" or 0.26" but that's just me. One range colder if running more than stock levels of boost is a good idea too.

[Vitamin M]

Originally Posted by texasboy21 Did you check the gap??

There are sooo many indications with logs that will tell you the motor is not liking that gap. I dont use gapping tools to check just see the gap, just check the logs. My car has been good... So you guys can bullshit all day. Have not had issues. When you know how to check more than just the gap. It means nothing if all you can check is the gap.

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[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M There are sooo many indications with logs that will tell you the motor is not liking that gap. I dont use gapping tools to check just see the gap, just check the logs. My car has been good... So you guys can bullshit all day. Have not had issues. When you know how to check more than just the gap. It means nothing if all you can check is the gap. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Well when you aren't pushing actual power, and have to drive 5mph everywhere so that tiny bump in the road doesn't rip open your oil pan, of course you wouldn't notice anything.

[PurplFox]

Wow, who keeps letting the tools in, thought they were weeded out long ago.

If you slap any sparkplug in any motor without checking the gap, you sir are a tool.

[Vitamin M]

Ok man keep gapping.. And be rude and whatever you do best. You did everything but answer the guys question that started the thread. Very helpful

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Originally Posted by PurplFox Wow, who keeps letting the tools in, thought they were weeded out long ago. If you slap any sparkplug in any motor without checking the gap, you sir are a tool.

They are pre gapped!! In a factory with better tools than yours!!

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[stockms3]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Ok man keep gapping.. And be rude and whatever you do best. You did everything but answer the guys question that started the thread. Very helpful Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk They are pre gapped!! In a factory with better tools than yours!! Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

You sir are a fucking idiot. GTFO with your stupid bullshit.

Yes they are pre gapped from factory but not necessarily to our SPECIFICATIONS.

From NGK site:

" A spark plugs Gap directly affects the tip temperature and the voltage necessary to fire the plug. NGK spark plugs traditionally leave the factory pre-gapped for their most popular application. However, a plug may fit hundreds of engines, from cars to golf carts. Gapping the plugs to your engine’s specifications is important to prevent pre-ignition, detonation, fouling and poor fuel economy. Even if the preset Gap matches that required by your engine, it is always good practice to physically check the Gap as it may have shifted during transportation (not all spark plugs are packaged in a way that protects the firing end )."

Do you comprehend now asshole? Or do you want more sources?

[PurplFox]

and inconsistent, poorly handled by "parts pros" as well as delivery services. You have to be cautious due to the fine wire tips, but not at least checking the gap is completely wrong, unless you're running those crappy bosch multi-electrode plugs. Even the plug manufacturers will tell you to check the gap and make sure its within the equipment's recommended range.

https://www.ngksparkplugs.com/about-...w-set-of-plugs

Strait from the horses mouth.

Q: Do Autolite® spark plugs come pre-gapped from the factory?
Autolite® and all spark plug manufacturers offer spark plugs pre-gapped in the most popular gap sizes. Because of the many gap sizes required, no one offers spark plugs properly gapped for every application. Gapping has always been the job of the installer. You can be sure that the Autolite® spark plug recommended for your application has been engineered to meet the requirements of your engine, and that the gap can easily be adjusted as required.

[Vitamin M]

It says its good practice... It doesnt say its necessary.. You proved yourself wrong... Thank you. Lol. And all i hear is insults.. Low class people

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[PurplFox]

Your motors funeral.

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M It says its good practice... It doesnt say its necessary.. You proved yourself wrong... Thank you. Lol. And all i hear is insults.. Low class people Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

And all I hear is stupidity from someone who won't just admit that they are wrong.

[Vitamin M]

NGK says 1. Maybe. 2. Its only good practice... So personally i dont and have NEVER head issues. Because i keep an eye on things after install. All you guys have done so far is insult like 10 year olds.. I wish someone would actually have the balls to say anything like this to my face. Would love to. Because anyone can insult.

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[stockms3]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M It says its good practice... It doesnt say its necessary.. You proved yourself wrong... Thank you. Lol. And all i hear is insults.. Low class people Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

The only low class "people" in this thread is you, because you can't fucking search and spread misinformation.

Another source:

"Autolite® and all spark plug manufacturers offer spark plugs pre-gapped in the most popular gap sizes. Because of the many gap sizes required, no one offers spark plugs properly gapped for every application. Gapping has always been the job of the installer. You can be sure that the Autolite® spark plug recommended for your application has been engineered to meet the requirements of your engine, and that the gap can easily be adjusted as required. "

There I even made the important part bold and large for you, so it is easy to understand.

[Vitamin M]

Originally Posted by stockms3 The only low class "people" in this thread is you, because you can't fucking search and spread misinformation. Another source: "Autolite® and all spark plug manufacturers offer spark plugs pre-gapped in the most popular gap sizes. Because of the many gap sizes required, no one offers spark plugs properly gapped for every application. Gapping has always been the job of the installer. You can be sure that the Autolite® spark plug recommended for your application has been engineered to meet the requirements of your engine, and that the gap can easily be adjusted as required. " There I even made the important part bold and large for you, so it is easy to understand.

Only low low class people insult with no real arguments.

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[PurplFox]

Wow, As you highlight the key point in which we are saying.

You were the installer, so its your job to ensure its set per your vehicles recommended gap.
The motors in the 3,6 are sensitive to many things. people long before you came in here, running our keyboard warrior stance. have learned the hard way.
And sir, i would debate this with you in person all day long. Proper adjustment even the pros and cons of indexing. That's why were here.

[stockms3]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Only low low class people insult with no real arguments. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Everyone has made plenty of counter arguments to your dumbass claim. I have provided two great sources.

Yet, here you are still being a dumbass. We have been way too nice to you already.

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M NGK says 1. Maybe. 2. Its only good practice... So personally i dont and have NEVER head issues. Because i keep an eye on things after install. All you guys have done so far is insult like 10 year olds.. I wish someone would actually have the balls to say anything like this to my face. Would love to. Because anyone can insult. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

The same shit said from anyone who gets offended online, "come say it to my face bro", and then what? You'll "beat up" someone for insulting you, and then go to jail for assult? This is a car forum, if you want to act like a faggot wanna be tough guy, go to facebook and complain.

You also have what, only a CAI? Aren't going past stock boost levels, so you personally on your car may not notice anything wrong possibly, but you sure aren't doing what is best for your car. Or your plugs were gapped enough amazingly from the factory that there aren't problems.

Either way, your information is incorrect regardless of what you think.

[KiwiFlavor]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M Only low low class people insult with no real arguments. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Uhh I think everyone else got a valid argument. They pointed out their arguments.

It has been documented on this forum and proven that our cars won't play nice with any gap larger than 0.026-0.028. Those plugs are not come pre-gapped to our engine specs.

Maybe you got a unicorn or something. Hopefully no zzb.

[Vitamin M]

And please tell me how are you able to know for sure that you have actually adjusted a 28 thou gap accurately enough wuthout calibrated equipment. You can maybe bring down a 50 thou gap to 28 but your telling me you can accuratly adust for 5 thou difference.... Its very hard to believe. Think about that. Not to mention the iridium head is sensitive. Check ur gap for good practice but adjust it -+ 5 thou... Good luck

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Originally Posted by PurplFox Your motors funeral.

My motor as a matter of fact running 180 compression across the board.

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[KiwiFlavor]

That's why they have plug gappers. And oh idk, it seems like everyone is having good luck with them.

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by Vitamin M And please tell me how are you able to know for sure that you have actually adjusted a 28 thou gap accurately enough wuthout calibrated equipment. You can bayme bring down a 50 thou gap to 28 but your telling me you can accuratly adust for 5 thou difference.... Its very hard to believe. Think about that. Not to mention the iridium head is sensitive. Check ur gap for good practice but adjust it -+ 5 thou... Good luck Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk My motor as a matter of fact running 180 compression across the board. Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

Just... no.

Why did you bother checking the compression of your motor? It isn't needed, only good practice. And where are the pictures showing 180 in each cylinder?

[PurplFox]

OMG, lol
I can gap a plug +/- .001, Its called a feeler gauge and proper use of the tool. you act like it has to be .0000000001 for it to be accurate. +/-.002" is close enough, but the average plug in the heat range for this car com in the .040-.045" range. far to wide for anything over stock boost levels

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by KiwiFlavor That's why they have plug gappers. And oh idk, it seems like everyone is having good luck with them.

"But how do you know they are calibrated correctly? NGK has better tools than you."

[PurplFox]

You verify using feeler gauges.
You know that precision measurement tool, for measuring clearance.