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Default Howling noise at 4300 RPMs

Good day everyone. Just bought my 2012 MS3 8000 miles. It recently started making a howling noise right at 4300 rpms to about 5k rpms. This happens regardless of what gear or speed im traveling. I took it to the dealer but the tech basically was saying that its normal. I dont know of any car that would make this kind of studdering howl sound this car does. It didnt make the sound for the first couple days I had it. I dont really think its affecting the performance, but when I can here it over the bose speakers it cant really be ignored. I searched all over the internet for what it might be. I found anouther guy with the same issue on another forum but no solution was ever given. Its driving me crazy, since I would like to have alittle fun but that sound always comes at 4300 without fail. If anyone has any idea please let me know.
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Good day everyone. Just bought my 2012 MS3 8000 miles. It recently started making a howling noise right at 4300 rpms to about 5k rpms. This happens regardless of what gear or speed im traveling. I took it to the dealer but the tech basically was saying that its normal. I dont know of any car that would make this kind of studdering howl sound this car does. It didnt make the sound for the first couple days I had it. I dont really think its affecting the performance, but when I can here it over the bose speakers it cant really be ignored. I searched all over the internet for what it might be. I found anouther guy with the same issue on another forum but no solution was ever given. Its driving me crazy, since I would like to have alittle fun but that sound always comes at 4300 without fail. If anyone has any idea please let me know.
Get a video of the noise (post it) and report back
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Does it sound like this:
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Are you on stock mounts?
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Please no video - this will be much more fun to guess if we try to use onomatopoeia.

So is it a metallic screeeeeeee or maybe more of a rotational mass wubwubwubwub that accelerates as you go faster?
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Its more of a wubwubwub. Yes stock mounts.
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Does it sound like this:
Wolf sounds - YouTube
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Its completly stock as far as I know.
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Since it's almost Halloween you clearly have a werewolf stuck under your hood.
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Its really hard to describe sounds for this kinda thing. But rotational howling sound is the best I got. I will get a video up hopefully today.
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It's probably just the vtec kicking in, yo
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Does it happen both under boost and also light load?
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yes it happens on light load and in boost/heavy engine load.

A wabling sound could also be a way to describe it.

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yes it happens on light load and in boost/heavy engine load.

A wabling sound could also be a way to describe it.
Boost leak perhaps?

It could be one of the couplers being loose and leaking under boost but a "howling" sound has me stumpled.

Gotta love trying to solve a problem with no videos or logs lol...
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LOL in before OP is freaked out about stock engine sound
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ok i tried to make a video but its really hard to hear on video
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In b4 sound is turbo spool...
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Dont think its turbo spool. Ive owned many turbo cars and it doesnt sound anything like this.
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Unfortunatly it wont let me upload the video here at work. I will attach it this evening. I found some driveshaft noise videos on youtube and it kinda sounds similar. However there's seems to happen at lower rpm as I dont really here mine untill 4300 rpm. Its definetly more noticible under higher engine load. Some people have described it as a whine. So basically im just trying to find out what would cause a whine/howl sound at higer RPMs. Some sort of engine harmonics are happening between 4 and 5k. I should just be hearing a sweet exhaust note from my car.
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Was the car wrecked and repaired according to the vehicle history? Wheel bearing could be shot from a massive pothole or being curbed, etc. That kind of shit is awful to track down.

Hopefully it's something simple like a prankster swapped their supercharger for your turbo.
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Supercharger maybe..lol
No i dont think its been in an accident or is wheel bearing related. Although the sound is similar and crossed my mind. Mazda called me and has said that they want to check it over. So possibly Friday I will be dropping it off with them. Waiting on an avalible loaner.
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I thought speed would be a factor for wheel bearing, my sound is only during the 4 and 5k rpms in any gear and any speed.
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I think the noises you hear are normal, but it will not be a wheel bearing you would know if it was that in a heart beat, but I am glad that mazda is being pro active about this noise.

JW does it sound like this?

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Engine resonance, something unbalanced? Was a BSD done on it?

Does it do it in neutral? Standing still and reving to 4-5k?
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Sorry noob question. what is BSD?
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Originally Posted by mrduece16 View Post
Sorry noob question. what is BSD?
Balance Shaft Delete

In the future... refer to http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...d.php?p=112745
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Not sure if that has been done to my car. Not really familiar with the BSD. How could I tell?
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Drop the oil pan and look and see if your balance shaft is there or not

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