how's my car doing?
 

i just bought my speed3 about a month and a half ago with 80,000 miles . i just got an AP last week and did a few logs. can some please tell me how my car is doing? i also changed the spark plugs not long ago to ngk 95369 and gapped them to 0.032

No clue what the oem heat range plugs are, but if you really want to know how your car is doing why not just do a compression test?

Your plugs should be gapped at 0.026-0.028.

Check this thread out

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ck-stage-5692/

Tho I'm pretty sure that the stock heat range NGKs are now NGK ILTR6A-7G.

Those numbers to me all look OK. Is it gen 2 ? What gas were you running at the time.

Yeah its a genpu 2011. 91 running on a stage 1 ots map

Yeah ok everything looks good.

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On the welcome PM it said the 95369 were the oem ones

Thanks man!

Yeah see this gapping confusion is unnecessary to worry about with the logs i see and your mods/boost. Its a non isssue. Not to mentioned todays gaps should not be retouched. They come pre gapped. And you might ruin them more than anything.

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You need to stop giving out incorrect information, like right now.

Ah, from Canada, makes sense. If it isn't about stretching tires, or getting more camber, just let the experts give advice about making power.

OK expert go ahead. Because there, at NGK they have no idea what they are doing. They should be reading your posts and maybe NGK can improve their business.

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If you even cared to do a little reading, you would know what the recommended gap is for NGK plugs for our cars.

If you had done that, then you wouldn't come out of this looking like a retard. But here we are...

.025":headbang: for the win

I had to regap all my NGK spark plugs........

Same here.

Never re gapped and never had an issue...

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Did you check the gap??

Probs not.

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0.32" is a bit much on these cars but hey, if it makes ya happy then more power to ya. I've already blown two engines in an '07 model so with my '11 model I err on the side of caution. Personally I go no larger than 0.25" or 0.26" but that's just me. One range colder if running more than stock levels of boost is a good idea too.

There are sooo many indications with logs that will tell you the motor is not liking that gap. I dont use gapping tools to check just see the gap, just check the logs. My car has been good... So you guys can bullshit all day. Have not had issues. When you know how to check more than just the gap. It means nothing if all you can check is the gap.

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Well when you aren't pushing actual power, and have to drive 5mph everywhere so that tiny bump in the road doesn't rip open your oil pan, of course you wouldn't notice anything.

Wow, who keeps letting the tools in, thought they were weeded out long ago.

If you slap any sparkplug in any motor without checking the gap, you sir are a tool.

Ok man keep gapping.. And be rude and whatever you do best. You did everything but answer the guys question that started the thread. Very helpful

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They are pre gapped!! In a factory with better tools than yours!!

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You sir are a fucking idiot. GTFO with your stupid bullshit.

Yes they are pre gapped from factory but not necessarily to our SPECIFICATIONS.

From NGK site:

" A spark plugs Gap directly affects the tip temperature and the voltage necessary to fire the plug. NGK spark plugs traditionally leave the factory pre-gapped for their most popular application. However, a plug may fit hundreds of engines, from cars to golf carts. Gapping the plugs to your engine’s specifications is important to prevent pre-ignition, detonation, fouling and poor fuel economy. Even if the preset Gap matches that required by your engine, it is always good practice to physically check the Gap as it may have shifted during transportation (not all spark plugs are packaged in a way that protects the firing end )."

Do you comprehend now asshole? Or do you want more sources?

and inconsistent, poorly handled by "parts pros" as well as delivery services. You have to be cautious due to the fine wire tips, but not at least checking the gap is completely wrong, unless you're running those crappy bosch multi-electrode plugs. Even the plug manufacturers will tell you to check the gap and make sure its within the equipment's recommended range.

https://www.ngksparkplugs.com/about-...w-set-of-plugs

Strait from the horses mouth.

Q: Do Autolite® spark plugs come pre-gapped from the factory?
Autolite® and all spark plug manufacturers offer spark plugs pre-gapped in the most popular gap sizes. Because of the many gap sizes required, no one offers spark plugs properly gapped for every application. Gapping has always been the job of the installer. You can be sure that the Autolite® spark plug recommended for your application has been engineered to meet the requirements of your engine, and that the gap can easily be adjusted as required.

It says its good practice... It doesnt say its necessary.. You proved yourself wrong... Thank you. Lol. And all i hear is insults.. Low class people

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Your motors funeral.

And all I hear is stupidity from someone who won't just admit that they are wrong.

NGK says 1. Maybe. 2. Its only good practice... So personally i dont and have NEVER head issues. Because i keep an eye on things after install. All you guys have done so far is insult like 10 year olds.. I wish someone would actually have the balls to say anything like this to my face. Would love to. Because anyone can insult.

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The only low class "people" in this thread is you, because you can't fucking search and spread misinformation.

Another source:

"Autolite® and all spark plug manufacturers offer spark plugs pre-gapped in the most popular gap sizes. Because of the many gap sizes required, no one offers spark plugs properly gapped for every application. Gapping has always been the job of the installer. You can be sure that the Autolite® spark plug recommended for your application has been engineered to meet the requirements of your engine, and that the gap can easily be adjusted as required. "

There I even made the important part bold and large for you, so it is easy to understand.

Only low low class people insult with no real arguments.

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Wow, As you highlight the key point in which we are saying.

You were the installer, so its your job to ensure its set per your vehicles recommended gap.
The motors in the 3,6 are sensitive to many things. people long before you came in here, running our keyboard warrior stance. have learned the hard way.
And sir, i would debate this with you in person all day long. Proper adjustment even the pros and cons of indexing. That's why were here.

Everyone has made plenty of counter arguments to your dumbass claim. I have provided two great sources.

Yet, here you are still being a dumbass. We have been way too nice to you already.

The same shit said from anyone who gets offended online, "come say it to my face bro", and then what? You'll "beat up" someone for insulting you, and then go to jail for assult? This is a car forum, if you want to act like a faggot wanna be tough guy, go to facebook and complain.

You also have what, only a CAI? Aren't going past stock boost levels, so you personally on your car may not notice anything wrong possibly, but you sure aren't doing what is best for your car. Or your plugs were gapped enough amazingly from the factory that there aren't problems.

Either way, your information is incorrect regardless of what you think.

Uhh I think everyone else got a valid argument. They pointed out their arguments.

It has been documented on this forum and proven that our cars won't play nice with any gap larger than 0.026-0.028. Those plugs are not come pre-gapped to our engine specs.

Maybe you got a unicorn or something. Hopefully no zzb.

And please tell me how are you able to know for sure that you have actually adjusted a 28 thou gap accurately enough wuthout calibrated equipment. You can maybe bring down a 50 thou gap to 28 but your telling me you can accuratly adust for 5 thou difference.... Its very hard to believe. Think about that. Not to mention the iridium head is sensitive. Check ur gap for good practice but adjust it -+ 5 thou... Good luck

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My motor as a matter of fact running 180 compression across the board.

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That's why they have plug gappers. And oh idk, it seems like everyone is having good luck with them.

Just... no.

Why did you bother checking the compression of your motor? It isn't needed, only good practice. And where are the pictures showing 180 in each cylinder?

OMG, lol
I can gap a plug +/- .001, Its called a feeler gauge and proper use of the tool. you act like it has to be .0000000001 for it to be accurate. +/-.002" is close enough, but the average plug in the heat range for this car com in the .040-.045" range. far to wide for anything over stock boost levels

"But how do you know they are calibrated correctly? NGK has better tools than you."

You verify using feeler gauges.
You know that precision measurement tool, for measuring clearance.

I too am having very good luck with my OEM gap plugs. Because going back to the original poster and he is not running any crazy mods so OEM gap and plugs are probably best because hard to imagine tthis forum has found out things that mazda engineers missed. Very hard to believe.

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But we are not NGK employees how can we know how to use such an advanced tool. Only real experienced people as Vitamin M know how to really check plugs....he can look at them and just measure with his precise vision. Then, he professionally checks the logs, and knows that his gaps are perfect.

We are such amateurs I think I'm going to sign up to one of those mechanic schools so I can learn how to change oil for $10 an hour.

Yes sir that something you use to check. How about when you have to close the gap. How are you gonna do that to 5 thou tolerance.. Since you say preciision measuremnt tool i am also assuming you calibrate that tool with your mititoyo gauge blocks every year as per lab standarts... Lol. Sure you do.

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You lost all credibility. You don't know jack shit. Go post on facebook.

I trust the factory pre gapping... If i do have an issue i replace them. My car has been good. I will rest here. Obv we disagree. Thats ok. But you dont just insult the other peorson because thats no argument. Thats childish...

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If I remember correctly, pretty sure it was documented here too, that Mazda change their gap on their service manual.

Someone say Gaps?

http://i.imgur.com/Tk1VOdo.gif

My gap is better https://media1.giphy.com/media/i2vhj...BC/200w.gif#36

Should i run ngk 1 step colder with just an AP the rest is bone stock?

@Bautista; Stock plug, at the recommended gap.

Around when should i get one step colder?

Install some Denso's without gapping. Then let us know how it goes.

In b4 spark blowout.

He is running almost stock set up... There is no relevance to that comment.

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One step colder when your tuner recommends you to, or when you are running closer to 325HP or better.

Um, I realize that. My comment was directed at you......

This thread is ridiculous. Not checking that gap is just silly. Why would you NOT check the gap to ensure it's correct?

You don't need NASA to calibrate your feeler gaige or check the gap.. Youll know easily enough if you're in the ballpark or need to adjust.

Not checking the condition or accuracy of any part that is to be installed is just idiotic.

This thread is great. Vitamin probably isn't pushing the power the rest of you guys are and thus does not see bad gap affect his logs. Hell, I've just got bolt ons, e33 and meth...still check and gap my plugs.

Yesterday i decided to pull my plugs just for the fuck of it and used a feeler gauge.(even tho never missfired and i constantly monitor A/F, knock and boost and boosted air temp.) what i found to ky surprise is that the plugs were all gapped at 28. Even tho i believe they market them as oem 32 gap. Did not have to adjust and was pleasantly surprised that thr gap was spot on. I did waste time i feel like. Because stevenW is right. I am running almost stock set up.

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