HTP vs JBR 3.5?
 

I searched all over for a comparison thread between the HTP and JBR 3.5" intakes--for the life of me, can't find one! I think part of the problem is the HTP 3.5 isn't officially released yet.

Both systems are comparable in price. Both are complete, from filter all the way to turbo coupler. I hear amazing things about Jamie, his products' quality and customer service. I saw some information that suggested the HTP may have better fitment, though, at a slightly lower price...

So, any thoughts?

P.S. I put this in general discussion to cast a wide net... MOD, please feel free to move it there's a much better place.

If you want one that fits, and has an integrated air straightener, go HTP.
Of you want a bitch of an install, want to pay for a separate air straightener and then want to cut and size said air straightener on your own, go JBR.

hmmm they look identical to me :/
anyway i went with JBR

Honestly, based on every review I've ran into, this is QFT

I love Jaime's products, I have many.

But I've read these facts too many times.

i have no experience with htp so i cant say either way for the fitment/quality. i do however have the jbr and ill tell you first hand its not hard to install. it worked better with no air straightener than my sure intake did out of the box. at least this one didnt have hot glue clogged in it. relocating the ecu is very easy and mine runs awesome with no air straightener. yes, some people have issues with it, it may or may not be tune related idk for sure. some people, like myself dont need the straightener, some do. take if fwiw. honestly i think either one would do the job for you.

Don't compare anything to SURE...

They are in the lulz these days.

The truth hurts, but groan away.
Who brought up sure, and why?

IMO, I'd stick with HT-P. Although when you think about, an intake is an intake.
@Tokay444;

It's all about the fitment with this one cause they both are good quality and will make the same power...If I had to do it over again, I would go with HTP... and actually I might switch when they officially release it.. Instead of me trying to get this JBR fitment right for the last time, I'll just swap it for HTP. For me with a tmic, JBR had a lot unnecessary headaches and it's still not 100%.

so what are the fitment issues with jbr

It doesn't fit.

Filter rubs against BPV (depending on your intercooler setup), you need to use washers on the mounting bracket to space it out far enough, battery box rubs against it and deforms the box so its hard to get the bolts back into the mounting points. I think JBR could easily fix these issues too, just need to bend the pipe differently.

lol

It does fit.. just not right.. well for me with a tmic and stock bpv the filter end is mm's away from touching and the pipe it self is pushing against the battery tray way too much... I tried for 2 days to adjust it (did everything I could think of to make it right) but it's not 100%.. I gave up. I only have 2 bolts holding the tray down and angled the filter so it won't hit the bpv.. Next try would be slotting the holes to the tray and maybe adjusting the tmic and to get it to move a few for mm's.. either that or go HTP


You said it a lot better than I did lol.. Listen to this guy lol

Well, from owning both WP and now a 4" from HTP. I say HTP all the way. The JBR fits, but not well. It does not come with a honeycomb nor does it have a beaded end near the turbo, unlike the HTP. I like that the HTP comes with threaded fitting for the boost source and VC breather hose, which I actually capped with the included plug. The WP was pushed to far toward the battery box rubbing the ecu, and the HTP does not, even being bigger. I have nothing against Jamie or his products, I just think he could have done better and I feel the product was rushed out the door.

Thanks for being honest :)

I must have been lucky then but mine fits... I used a few washers to space it out but its in the INSTRUCTIONS that way. I also have a Cobb xle bov which is kinda tall so mine hit the filter. Other than that it all fit okay, Idk what everybody is having problems with. I'm not gonna tell you which one to buy, just don't make your decision based off what people that don't have any personal experience say.

Jamie made a 3.5" Intake to fit a K04 better than a BT. He said the bracket is only good for K04 applications. This should be more geared towards bigger applications.

True but like he said, it would be very difficult for him to design something that would work with all the bt setups. Between different turbos and manifolds not many would mount in the exact same position. It wouldn't be hard to fab up a small bracket to make it work though. And Idk if it would be required or not, the intake is very light.

To the op

Buy big intake
Make more power
???
Profit

Yeah, fitment is a major issue for me. I only have the K04 now, so knowing that a particular intake works well for the stock turbo compels me. I also like that the HTP air straightener is integrated. The competitive price is nice too.

Jamie did tell me, however, that his filter and hose quality is superior... It's a K&N dryflow, and the hoses are chemical resistant, rather than being mere heater hoses.

In the end, I think I'd do well with either of these, because it ultimately comes down to grams/sec for me. I'm about performance. I'd love to avoid the hassle of a frustrating, part-wrestling install, but I'll do it for performance. No matter what, I'm sure at least several of Jamie's products will find their way to my Genpu. He's a stand-up guy, and I hear many good things about all sorts of his products.

BTW @Zdraveca, I thought you still had a short-ram with a CS intake box... Did you recently upgrade?

The bracket on my JBR intake was off by a good inch. So fitment is well, questionable.

Yes I still have the cobb intake and tip + corksport box but as you said need more airflow :) I got a used jbr from a member here yesterday

Sent from a GenPu

Cool deal. I bet with your setup you'll definitely log (and feel) a significant difference...

meh my jbr fits great with a 3071r 2.75" inlet compressor housing...

Two great companies with great customer service and great pricing and they both have great senses of humor

BUT


as much as i love JBR...i would go HTP on this. I ran a bunch of shit from JBR and i wouldnt hesitate to do so...but i just think HTP is THAT good of an intake/tip.




but the real point is that both of these faggot ass companies should be making fmic piping kits

Can someone link the threads about JBR fitment issues?

I had zero issues with fitiment on the JBR on the BNRS3 also have not had any need for a honeycomb.

Bead rolls on the intakes are only cosmetic, there is no boost in the intake so bead rolling is not needed.

Zigatapatalka

My assumption is that JBR doesn't make them all himself and there's a potential quality control issue here as some people don't have problems and others do.

@Lex; @dantes5823; im still not sure whether or not this is a tune related issue people are having or not...

This is a huge callout, man. Be careful @jbarone;

I have the htp 3.5 and sorry that's a lie. Htp also ships with a k&n dry flow. I can't speak for the hoses and couplers but they all work fine.

Fitment is great relocated the ecu temp to on top of the fuse box. Battery box doesn't go back together just right but its hard to notice.



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That's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
If he's making them all by hand on his own, and there's that many fitment issues, that would be a call out.
I'm assuming that the issue is with someone else OTHER than Jamie.

What issue? all i see are fitment questions.

the fact that people seem to think an air straightener is required. mine not only fits, it also doesnt have a straightener. im wondering if people are having issues they think is the straightener, it may actually be that for whatever reason, 1.)its not tuned right, or 2.)not installed right, and may be sucking in unmetered air somewhere.

With my HTP 3.5 intake. I went from stock to it. Multiplied maf table by 1.66. It spat and studdered for about 30 seconds after first start up then it straightened out. Had some between shift backfires but not to bad. After 1st maf cal revision backfires are all but gone.

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I think the larger point here is fitment.

I own neither. However I do own a custom 3.5" with no air straightener, but it fits.

I have installed 2 JBR WP's on peoples cars, both have been questionable as people have said. No matter how you fidget, wiggle, adjust, whatever, It rubs the BPV and or battery box. Originally we tried just pushing the JBR WP further down than the mounting bracket to clear the BPV. This however lead to a good kink in the hose so we put it back on the bracket and just un bolted the battery box and shimmy'd it over.

i personally had the HTP 3" inlet and have installed one on no less than 3-4 cars and i can say fitment is spot on. Yes, the JBR is .5" bigger and we're already talking about a very crammed space (had to take the ECU cover off the HTP since its a "snug" fit). Now, im aware their 3.5 and 4" units are all one piece, but the fact of the matter is: they simply fit better.

Thats my two cents if its worth anything, no sense in dragging on about fitment issues.

I'm not having any tuning issues either.. Just fitment here... A 3.5" intake defiantly makes more power.

I'm glad this thread is out cause Jamie can't deny the fact that there are issues (at least for some people) with his intake anymore .. He knows about the fitment issue I have personally.. We will see how he chooses to resolve the issue.

It looks like there are a few having issues with our intake and I will look in to it first thing in morning. I certainly wouldn't call it an epidemic though. I just finished making several this afternoon so I'll fit one on the car and check it out.

It looks like fitment is no better with the HTP. The first one installed won't allow the battery box to go back together and I'm being accused of the quality control? I guess I could remove the mounting bracket from ours and it would be the exact same fitment as HTP? Let's take it easy here guys. This is a very large diameter pipe we're trying to stuff in to a very small area. Some effort to fit it is to be expected. This isn't a factory replacement SRI now is it? This is modding and some modding may be necessary. Are the gains not worth it? I think 40hp is worth a little rubbing on the battery box.

I'll look in to our fitment tomorrow and if something needs to change I'll change it.

fwiw

this is behind the bracket the intake attaches to

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/IMAG0607.jpg

this is right where the intake mounts

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/IMAG0608.jpg

plenty of room

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/IMAG0609.jpg

Good response/reaction... I didn't want to throw it in your face and tell you I know I wasn't the only person with fitment issues (in our email transactions we had)... But I am glad you are aware of the situation now and can do what you have to do.

@exentix; With an intake with proper fitment, there wouldn't be a need for micky mousing