Eh, you've handled the initial flaming well enough. Time will tell if you are a troll or not.

If you were part of that initial thread over there on the Z forums you should recognize that I'm one of the initial posters from here. I made my point - poked at J O K E R and then left. These cars can be made very very fast. They are great fun and personally, I like the way they look. I appreciate the sleeper...

However, they are obviously a different car than the Z and although they seem to be made to excel at roll racing and such - they are still not RWD sports cars and for the most part people on MSF recognize this and recognize that the Z also has its relational strong points.

I recognize what my car can and can't do and I guess the reason I trolled your forums for a bit was that it's one of my peeves when I encounter other car enthusiasts that don't seem to know shit about what they drive or what others are capable of... and believe me - we have had more than our fair share pop up here on MSF even during my fairly short membership... and they, for the most part, aren't treated very well either - no matter if they happen drive a MS3 or not. It was just a bit annoying to see so many over there in Z land jumping on the ignorance band wagon and it allowed to go unchecked. :wink:

OP :tool:

You should have known your anus would get so stretched from all of the raping you could pull it over your head and wear it.

OP is a faggot.

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fuck this nigga

you guys got soft.

I personally think that OP wasn't trying to troll and is honestly interested in the speed platform. However he asked some stupid fucking questions at the wrong time which led to the entertainment this thread provided.

That being said. Welcome to MSF. FYZN.

Thats my point, i understand the limitations of my car and it cant be boosted reliably, your best option with a z is keeping it NA or swapping the engine which costs gobs of money, something which is sometimes not tht enjoyable, ie 5k for boltons only gets 30whp at most, I am considering different platforms and landed on this one because i didnt know these things were that fast

speed 3's make an easy 300-320whp/350lb ft of torque with ~1.5k in mods (ap, big intake, fuel pump internals, downpipe, motor mounts) and are a similar weight to z's. They handle very well for a fwd platform and have room to haul shit. It's not that fucking complicated @MS3Me;

yeah i think i should have waited a week for that whole shitstorm to die down

true but i was just trying to get real world opinions from owners on potential differences i would experience, i asked stupid ass questions i can see from rereading the thread, but in all honesty i was just trying to see the potential you guys see, ima just take what you guys have told me and look for this on my test drive saturday

it's obviously not a small sport coupe, but having cross shopped both the ms3 and z I prefer the versatility of the speed. I'm pretty active (snowboarding, bbq's, road trips, beach etc) so the space is awesome.

Make sure your tune is on point and make sure to start off with fuel pump internals and an ap. You can just gut the stock downpipe get a larger intake and you'll make good power. That's maybe ~1200 if you buy shit used. From a roll/on the highway these things are dumb quick, from a standstill there's obviously traction issues.

yeah thats one of the reasons why im looking at it, i need something to do shit with, and i want it to be fast without dropping 30k into the shit and it works for a year

The fuck is this shit. If you wanted to come out of the closet op, please meet us back a 350z forum where we can ass rape you there.

Well you still here, I have to give you that... If you are serious there is only one way to tell and that is time, I really hope and suggest that you UPGRADE your Z to a MS3, its a AWESOME and practical car, not to mention that is a totally sleeper and with little money invested it will smoke most of the cars that you come across

i already got assraped enough for a shitty post, im just trying to get info, your dyno posts and youtube videos made me start to research so im sorry if i failed

yeah we will see saturday, i have only driven a couple boosted cars and they were a blast to drive

So...how does it feel to be a "vert"? Or whatever the fuck the gay z forum fucks call it.

I'll always take FI over N/A, but since I live at 6600 feet elevation, there's a reason for that. Stock I was beating 350Zs...now it's not even close. And I drive a fat pig MS6.

Op I'm not sure I still believe you. So you should donate or post pic of you with said wife and baby or just some nudez of de wife.

well not exactly a convert yet still waiting on saturday

thi is true Vegas is at elevation and i def fel the difference traveling back and forth to cali

you guys hacked the shit out of my instagram you can find her on there there should be a pic of her in a red blazer and me in a white shirt and tie

You're overestimating. @MS3Me; pay attention:

Over the last month I spent exactly $900 for these three mods:

AP, FP Internals and Downpipe.

After I'm done self tunining without E85 I'm hoping to make ~290whp and a fuckton of torque to accompany.


In the near future I'm looking at FMIC, EBCS and Spark plugs. Throw some E and I'll be over 300whp easily.

Blew the doors off a 350..little z...the other day...looking for big brother 370...z to be anounce

OP lol

Wow this fuckery is crazy but I'll try to add some useful notes. First if the OP has not been in the general info threads and build threads to see the upgrade paths and all the info about the ms platforms go there spend a day reading. You don't even have to search for build diaries or setups. There are stickies for parts that include reviews, prices, and vendor links. Ill even give you the links http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f588/
The start hear thread is where you should start. It will give you everything you need to know from how a disi engine works to what you should not post in a thread.

Now for my 2 cents on the Z vs ms3. Obviously no one with a z wants to consider thinking that a 24k wagon can compete with a purpose built sports car but the sad reality of it is the Z is the last thing on my mind when it comes to competition. Sure there are some built ones and I have a few friends with turboed z's. hell the shop I hang with has a crew of z/g purpose built race cars. Soho Motorsports and momentum. They make the most popular z/g turbo kits out but back to the point. No smut buckets at the beach probably don't flock to the ms3 riding down the strip like they do a z, the ms3 will be cheaper to mod and you will get more power per mod and more power per dollar invested on every mod on the ms3. Other things people don't talk about are the features. I have a genwon GT with self leveling HIDs, speed sensing windshield wipers, Bose 6disk in dash with sub(really not that special but better than a lot of stuff) the seats are decent, I love em. Auto AC is cool, and a few other little things in the car that make it just more fun to drive and not mess with stuff. Performance wise i still can't see the argument. The only z to beat me was a modded nismo with just about every bolt on. He beat me by a few feet from 40-120. Not even a gap between the cars and I was running intake and dp no tune. On a road corse I think the z may run a little faster than a stock ms3 on those shitty stock tires but smaller autox courses I haven't seen a z out run a ms3. Fun to drive factor. Nothing like hitting the gas and the turbo throwing you back. Yeah n/a and instant tq is cool but the way this power is applied and how aggressive you tune will make you like the car or love it. There's no hate either way.

Well said

Well this shit got boring.

i woke up and the first thing i did was go in here...still no nudez...boring

Yeah bro. Late to the party.

But the thing about Mazdaspeed guys defending their cars that's different than most. We're just as aggressive with it in real life. Maybe a little less anal carnage but you get the point

MS3Me; Welcome to our site, faggot. Shits a wee bit different here.

Well, the welcome PM is not a canned vbulletin message. It has good shit. And a warning. Ask stupid shit, prepare for anal rapage.

@MS3Me; read the links 1 and 2 in raiders sig. They will help you.......hopefully.

Its too late son, the struggle snuggle has begun! I call dibs on his butthole!

Im second in line if this guy dont get a bonner

Not really. At the slightest sign of trolling, I'm going after his girl, his mom, or his family next. He knows what's up.

I don't know what a bonner is, but the slightest breeze gives me a wood so stiff that if you were standing in front of me, it'd probably split you in half.

thanks man, besides the anal rapeage for the stupid questions at first, you guys are alright


well sofaking you can keep going man, but i aint trying to troll

Or for S. Cal NATOR, more.

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One hell of an epic thread and butt rapeage. But after reading over the whole thread, I think this dude is legit. OP, go test drive a MS3, you'll fall in love. End of story.

Make sure you you floor it in second gear, that's what sold me.

2nd? Oh, right... you guys and your silly FWD.

I think he meant 3rd, and possibly 4th.

thanks guys im testing it on saturday i found two genpus trying to find a genwon to test drive, might have to go to cali this weekend to look for it