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God that Challenger sounds great. Its a boat and is probably the one I'd pick. Mustangs and Camaros = dime a dozen. |
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Question, why not get the speed and do some minor mods??? That way u have the best of both worlds... |
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nice thing about the 5.0 is you don't have to mod for more power. i think i'd be happy just giving it boss / shelby suspension guts. |
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I would also go with the 5.0 if money wasnt an issue, I would love a Mustang but as others have said they are kinda popular (you see a lot of them along with the SS in my area vs the MS3) and for me the 5+k price difference, plus insurance costs and rear vs front drive for winter helped me make my decision. With all that said, i wouldn't complain if I had a 5.0 for fun and the MS3 as a DD. |
yes sir, u are pretty accurate. i am almost dead even sea level where our 1/4 mile track is, and with a decent driver i have seen 120, but he was running lower tire pressure, and it is automatic too, which from what i have seen helps with the 60' times. but yes, simple bolt-ons and some e will get pretty close, and again, way less $. but, my oh my do the 5.0's sound like sex for sale with a good exhaust....lol |
See what the chevy nut swinger is probably going off is the fact that the zl1 beat the boss 302 when they tested them on the track. Problem with that is the fact that it only beat the boss by a whopping 2.45 seconds even with the "shitty" live axle. Put the factory warrentied supercharger upgrade on the boss and where it actually lost time (which was the straight aways due to being underpowered vs the zl1) I promise you it would be a different outcome. Also the ZL1 just posted up their quarter mile times on camaro5 and guess what it trapped 116. So it can barely hang with a 2012 GT500 , and you think it will be able to touch the new 2013 GT500 which is actually in its same class. Roflmao dude you need to give it up even hard core chevy fans are giving the proper respect to the new mustangs that they are due. Back on topic OP test drive both and figure out which one meets your price range / limit of use better. People can recommend things all they want but it just boils down to what you want out of the cars. |
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Look man, im not a fan of domestic vehicles in any sort honestly. You guys are just not getting my point. If you look at my post, i didnt say hey, the GT mustang sucks compared to the vette or the cts-v or the zl1. The point I was trying to get across was the fact that people need to LOOK and SEE where the development of Chevy was compared to Ford in general. Where is FORD on anything ? Nowhere, because they have had nothing to offer for the past 10 years. Is the newer mustang better than the Camaro SS ? Ok, yes....You got me there . Ford finally has a wildcard in play. Everyone's on the bandwagon, the new mustang is the great new thing right now. Now lets see where they go with it. |
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What your fail to realize x09MS3GT is that the live axle is part of the mustang appeal. The mustang isnt built to be a lotus elise. its a muscle car which happens to also handle really, really well with the crude technology it has to work with. Ford contemplated IRS for the mustang but decided against it because it looses that crude, raw nature that cars like the MS3 have. Thats the feeling that draws people in. On a side note, if I was getting a muscle car it would be the challenger 392. Drives like a boat but goes fast in a straight line and looks absolutely fantastic @OP, i'll mention this again if it got lost.but if you're coming from a FWD (or that fake AWD) minivan that can barely get out of its own way to a 400+hp RWD its going to be quite a shock. I would say baby steps and opt for something less powerful or with AWD, especially for WI. Have you looked at like a used G37x? Still quick, much more feature heavy and has a pretty good AWD system. Damn reliable too (at least compared to its german rivals) @GODspeed7, I see you saw where the corvette mention was. No harm no foul. Confusing thread. |
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Ford hasent offered anything in the last 10 years huh? Ever here of the 2003/04 Ford Mustang Cobra aka Terminator? 390/390 stock with IRS! Add $1500 in mods and your putting down 450/450ish. Upgrade the blower to a TS and your at 600/600 with long tubes! Yeah Ford really screwed the pooch on that one! That DOHC block is absolutley insane what power level it can handle stock let alone building it. Ask me how I know. The new Ford Ecoboost line? V6's putting down V8 power numbers and tourqe. The new 5.0 Coyote is insane! Guys are fully bolting them to a reliable 550 and sometimes 600 RWHP on a stock block and good tune! To be objective The ZO6 has always been one of my favorite rides ever period end of story. My first few cars were Gm's. I'm not a nut swinger or a hater just an objective car nut. |
Ford GT? Hell, the Taurus SHO us pretty damn sweet and so is the Focus RS or whatever that green car is from the other thread. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2 |
Yeah, I would have said the exact opposite of his statement, seems to me Ford has really gotten its shit together in the last 10 years. The Mustangs keep getting better every couple of years, the Focuses that were released in Europe over the last several years have been pretty kick-ass, and are finally starting to show up here (ST later this year), the new SHO with the twin turbos is bad as hell for a family sedan. V6 Eco-boost truck motors kicking out V8 power and good gas mileage to boot like was mentioned above. They're getting better each year, and completely showing up the crap they put out in the 80s and 90s. |
not reading this whole thread. now let me give you(OP) sage advice if it has been said, dont care. you are coming from a 2004 sienna. a minivan. any car of a performance pedigree will be a huge change for you, not to mention a stick shift if you go ms3. a mustang has the potential of wrapping itself around a tree with a inexperienced driver or someone new to the rwd dynamic. now if i were you and wanted something sporty wait for the scion fr-s to come out later this year. please think about your choice and maybe go for something less likely to make you a statistic. gotta start at the bottom before you go to the top, so to speak. :burnout: |
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In B4 @SWAY or @gearhead750 says this thread is full of ghey and fail. |
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This whole thread is ridiculous. OP, you'd be a damn fool to NOT buy the mustang. If you want performance, that coyote motor is ripe for the picking. Disregard suspension talk. Aftermarket parts and the right tuning can make anything a track monster. I'm not saying the MS3 is garbage, it's one of the funnest cars I've owned. But, when you're talking to a gear head who prefers function over form, the mustang is the clear choice. On another note, I find it strange how some folks just can't give credit where it's due. For fucks sake, Ford got it right this time. Why is that so difficult to appreciate? People all over the world are raving about the new stangs for a reason... They aren't a fad, they're fucking bad!!!! |
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this thread is full of ghey and fail. Jeez...it couldn't get any worse. Fucking Ford and Chevy. Two dogs with fleas.... And it keeps getting worse as I scroll upward. I read shit backwards bitches... |
Lol at even the Charger Srt8 beating the Crapmaro. I like the Charger Srt8 myself but didn't realize it was that much more expensive over the Gt. |
Thanks for all of the replies. I have been going back and forth between dealers and am finding that I can get a better deal than I had thought on a Mustang, so I am leaning in that direction right now. The insurance between the speed3 and the Mustang was almost exactly the same, so that is a nice surprise as well. Regardless of which direction I end up going, I still think the speed3 is an awesome car and definitely can't be beat in terms of price/performance/practicality. |
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If you are keeping the Sienna, get the Mustang. If you are getting rid of the Sienna, get the MS3. Problem Solved... |
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Oh and they actually made a Mustang continously... while Chevy dropped the Camaro. And Firebird.... and Pontiac Oh and they didn't go bankrupt lol does that count for anything? /offtopic |
The Mustang has come a long way since the last time I owned one (03 GT), I took care of my brothers 09 GT when he was over in Afghanistan and I was shocked at how well the car was, and it wasn't even the 5.0. So just like everyone else here has been saying, if price isn't an issue go with the mustang. My brothers is completely murdered out and ya, it turned heads everywhere I went with it. Good Luck |
Test drove a 13 base gt with brembos tonight with some retarded sales kid. I like the new front end and black gauges but the rear end is ghetto and the cloth seats suck. I showed him the ms3 so he could see it was clean and grab the vin and mileage. Told him it was stock besides the rx-8 wheels as it was dark and he didn't bother to raise the hood. Dealer has a few leftover 12 gt premiums with 3.73 rear end and hid/security package. Told him $29k out the door. |
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I think I want the 12 gt premium if I can give the dealer ass to mouth. |
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Even crack heads know the new 5.0's are sick. So yeah, what the fuck is he smoking? |
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