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BiggestPapi 05-09-2012 04:39 PM

Moved to EVO GSR; mint MS3 traded (TX)
 
For anyone interested - I moved on to an EVO GSR on Monday and my '11 Titanium Speed 3 is at Don Herring in Plano TX. It has 2,163 miles total - non-tech - and is about as mint as you'll ever find a used one.

No affiliation with said dealer & nothing in it for me. Contributor(paying) to this forum and will continue following the MS3 over the next few years.

Edit: non-smoker; garaged 100% of the time; NEVER saw a drop of rain; NO MODS; and oil changed 3 times in 2100 miles.

helmetface 05-09-2012 04:43 PM

Lol hate the 3 that much?

Why so soon?

predapio 05-09-2012 04:45 PM

Still a pu though....lol

Grats on the new car...post some pics.

BiggestPapi 05-09-2012 04:59 PM

Just the opposite Helmut - and thx Predapio.

Love the Speed3 - but it was a weekend/fun car only as the GSR will be.

Still have a Protege 5 and have had every Speed model Mazda ever produced along with 3 Miata's through the years. I don't mind the FWD in my daily beater, but I'm looking for an all-out/raw driving feeling again like the original Miata's were famous for. I don't give two about a few rattles, leather interior, nav, or anything else these days. Hell, take the damned pw/pl away from everything and I'd be even happier. :tongue:

I know most insist the VIII and IX are the best cars Mitsu ever produced, but I see some of that as sour grapes like the GenJuan/GenPu arguments here. We all want something new when it comes down to it. :wink1:

AZSPEED3 05-09-2012 05:19 PM

Congrats on the new Evo, for sure post up pics. Now you and Darksun can be bff's.

DownSideFX 05-09-2012 07:44 PM

Lets see it man! I'm probably going this route soon..

Dmurray06 05-09-2012 07:47 PM

Because to much $ in bank account?

CaptObvious75 05-09-2012 07:56 PM

Sick and agree on the toys in cars these days! whatever happened to power windows and locks and thats it? Now its dual clutch this (lazy), dual zone climate (wtf same cabin?), headlights that turn while you turn?? lol

lilred 05-09-2012 07:56 PM

Oil changed 3 times in 2100? Also it might help to know what they gave you for it so someone knows the profit margin and get a good deal, might not idk throwing it out there?

BiggestPapi 05-09-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lilred (Post 1406888)
Oil changed 3 times in 2100? Also it might help to know what they gave you for it so someone knows the profit margin and get a good deal, might not idk throwing it out there?

Yes. Once at 500 to get any break-in shavings out and twice more due to time - not mileage.

For quick sale - maybe they'd take a little under $20k - let's leave it as they have over 19k in it.

It has almost exactly 2 yrs of the 3\36 left and of course the balance of the 5/60 powertrain left.

Darksun280 05-09-2012 08:41 PM

Welcome to the promise land my friend.

Fyi keep a credit card with 5k emergency funds free if your going to mod and race the evo. You know, just in case. Not saying just saying........

BiggestPapi 05-09-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darksun280 (Post 1407017)
Welcome to the promise land my friend.

Fyi keep a credit card with 5k emergency funds free if your going to mod and race the evo. You know, just in case. Not saying just saying........

I've been following your saga my friend. Your sig pic actually helped make the decision for me. The envy. Pure envy.:why:

Darksun280 05-09-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggestPapi (Post 1407035)
I've been following your saga my friend. Your sig pic actually helped make the decision for me. The envy. Pure envy.:why:

Thanks man. At least you were smart enough to realize the fail my car is experience is not it's own fault but mine.

BiggestPapi 05-09-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmurray06 (Post 1406865)
Because to much $ in bank account?

Hardly :09:, but I'm older than probably 90% of the people here and doing ok right now. Have fun when/ while you can-right?

Everyone else looking for pics - it's just a stock 12 GSR in wicked white right now. For now.:saroll:

ahfunaki 05-09-2012 09:35 PM

And in the best color, nice!

adrager622 05-09-2012 09:54 PM

Congrats on the new car. I'm actually thinking of going the same route as you and trading in my MS3 for the Evo. Good luck with it, and I'm sure that 3 will find a new home very quickly.

desertmike680 05-10-2012 12:09 AM

Why do the gen one owners have so much hate towards the Gen two? It looks so much better then the gen one in all aspects. Everytime a post is made regarding a gen two, its....oh its a gen pu, get rid of it,. Piece of shit. I dont understand. You guys are driving the same damn car, so what the f gives? Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

breakfstincluded 05-10-2012 02:04 AM

lol^

maisonvi 05-10-2012 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmike680 (Post 1407249)
Why do the gen one owners have so much hate towards the Gen two? It looks so much better then the gen one in all aspects. Everytime a post is made regarding a gen two, its....oh its a gen pu, get rid of it,. Piece of shit. I dont understand. You guys are driving the same damn car, so what the f gives? Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

Wow...just wow. Had to be a Pu owner

Mistersix 05-10-2012 05:39 AM

@BiggestPapi You've had every speed model ever produced? So you've owned an MSP, MSM, MS6, MS3 genone and gentwo.....

4G63 05-10-2012 05:45 AM

So you bought an Evo X and you say "I'm looking for an all-out/raw driving feeling again"

You picked the wrong generation my man. Did u not see Darky's fail? Mine has 130,000 miles running 500hp for over 40,000 on stock motor and drivetrain. Just saying yo. Evo X's do have better interior and I do still love them nonetheless

CaptObvious75 05-10-2012 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmike680 (Post 1407249)
Why do the gen one owners have so much hate towards the Gen two? It looks so much better then the gen one in all aspects. Everytime a post is made regarding a gen two, its....oh its a gen pu, get rid of it,. Piece of shit. I dont understand. You guys are driving the same damn car, so what the f gives? Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

Evo is like a toyota carolla with a turbo? LOL... whats the speed3 then? GROANED

Raider 05-10-2012 06:00 AM

At least with the Evo, you can just slap a shitload of bolt-ons and turbo upgrades without a tune. Hell, setting the MBC to 40 PSI might make it fast enough to catch @Erich....

xtasy 05-10-2012 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptObvious75 (Post 1407402)
Evo is like a toyota carolla with a turbo? LOL... whats the speed3 then? GROANED

obviously a Mazda 3 with a turbo

4G63 05-10-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmike680 (Post 1407249)
Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

Can't believe I missed this but then again I skip over brownies for the most part. Regardless ur a tard. I kinda see where u are coming from though. Many of my friends with other cars (many in the 700-800hp rwd range) after taking a ride in my car down some curvy roads and even in the straights say it's the most fun they've ever had in any car...ever. That's says a lot coming from v8 guys who as a general rule hate imports (especially my friends).

Oh yea the BRZ sucks more dick than you do. 2013 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T > Slowbaru shitz

BiggestPapi 05-10-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4G63 (Post 1407397)
So you bought an Evo X and you say "I'm looking for an all-out/raw driving feeling again"

You picked the wrong generation my man. Did u not see Darky's fail? Mine has 130,000 miles running 500hp for over 40,000 on stock motor and drivetrain. Just saying yo. Evo X's do have better interior and I do still love them nonetheless

Try finding a IX that hasn't been modded to hell or beaten to death - I looked - for months.:tongue:

Vinnie 05-10-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmike680 (Post 1407249)
Why do the gen one owners have so much hate towards the Gen two? It looks so much better then the gen one in all aspects. Everytime a post is made regarding a gen two, its....oh its a gen pu, get rid of it,. Piece of shit. I dont understand. You guys are driving the same damn car, so what the f gives? Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

pu owners suck!

CWP_MS3 05-10-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZSPEED3 (Post 1406619)
Congrats on the new Evo, for sure post up pics. Now you and Darksun can be bff's.

buttfucksforever?

4G63 05-10-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggestPapi (Post 1407631)
Try finding a IX that hasn't been modded to hell or beaten to death - I looked - for months.:tongue:

Feeler: Stock Evo 06 SE

What do I win? It's a feeler but I've met him he'll sell lol

fortressofcomfort 05-10-2012 12:26 PM

~2100 miles in what 18 months? That's not a weekend car! That's a proper driver collecting dust!

I hope to Gawd that when I get in my 50s or 60s that I don't just buy cars to look at them or to say I have them, or to take to Lowe's parking lot on Friday nights car gatherings to lean against.

327whp 05-10-2012 12:51 PM

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Congrats on the move to a GSR, great cars with a ton of potential. It was very hard for me choosing when I got rid of the MS3 but choose against the EVO for my Vette. I will still get an Evo at some point as driving one of my buddies old Evo, there is just something about those cars. Here is what looks like a plan pic of his Evo until you try and run against him and he's running 9's. Buschur built.

runswithscissors 05-10-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmike680 (Post 1407249)
Why do the gen one owners have so much hate towards the Gen two? It looks so much better then the gen one in all aspects. Everytime a post is made regarding a gen two, its....oh its a gen pu, get rid of it,. Piece of shit. I dont understand. You guys are driving the same damn car, so what the f gives? Oh yeah, I dont like Evo's. Waste of money. Its like a toyota corolla with a turbo. My next car: Subaru BRZ. No HP, but who the hell cares.

Yeah the Subaru BRZ by all accounts is going to be one of the best driver's cars out there. It isn't really quick in a straight line but it doesn't need to be unless all you care about is posting fast 1/4m times, etc. Otherwise, at it's current power to weight ratio it strikes just the right balance to be a fun / rewarding daily driver.

Adding more power would just mean you could only open it up / run it through the gears for short 3-4 seconds burst at a time before exceeding posted limits, being arrested for reckless driving, losing your license, etc.

Subaru hooked the BRZ up with relatively skinny 215/45/17 tires for the same reasons. Wider / stickier tires would just mean you could post a quicker lab time around the track not make the BRZ more fun to drive.

What many folks don't seem to get is that these cars with all kinds of power and extremely high limits aren't much fun to drive on a daily bases. You have to be on a race track to exploit the limits of such cars.

Doing so on most public roads would only result in eventually losing your license or worse. So it's basically a waste unless you spend most of your time at a race track.

The Mazda MX-5 isn't one of the best driver's cars because it has a lot of power. It's one of the best driver's cars because it has easily exploitable limits. You don't have to be going balls to the wall around a race track to enjoy driving one.

Also, its not like the current generation MX-5 Miata is any worse to drive than the original Miata. Sure it's gained about 300lbs but it's gained a lot more power in the process improving its power to weight ratio. It still easily remains one of the best driver's cars on the road today.

I mention the MX-5 because the 2013' Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S have much of the same characteristics.

There are many cars faster than the MX-5 / BRZ / FR-S but few nearly as fun / rewarding to drive. This is why saying such and such car is somehow "superior" because it has "X" amount of HP, runs "X" 0-60, etc is rather pointless in comparing cars. The #'s don't even begin to scratch the surface when it comes to evaluating how good a sports car is. The MX-5 is a perfect example.


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Tomas 05-10-2012 09:02 PM

^ Please move out of Florida. You are not welcome in the Sunshine State.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 4G63 (Post 1407545)
Many of my friends with other cars (many in the 700-800hp rwd range) after taking a ride in my mom down some curvy roads and even in the straights say it's the most fun they've ever had in any vagina...ever. That's says a lot coming from v8 guys who as a general rule hate tramps (especially myhomosexual friends).

Oh yea the BRZ sucks more dick than you do. 2013 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T > Slowbaru shitz

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BiggestPapi 05-10-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort (Post 1408240)
~2100 miles in what 18 months? That's not a weekend car! That's a proper driver collecting dust!

I hope to Gawd that when I get in my 50s or 60s that I don't just buy cars to look at them or to say I have them, or to take to Lowe's parking lot on Friday nights car gatherings to lean against.

11 months - generalizations are usually reserved for mental midgets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4G63 (Post 1407951)
Feeler: Stock Evo 06 SE

What do I win? It's a feeler but I've met him he'll sell lol

Love the start to that link - "well, let me start by saying"..followed by a laundry list of problems.

Neverlift 05-10-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggestPapi (Post 1406582)
I don't mind the FWD in my daily beater, but I'm looking for an all-out/raw driving feeling again like the original Miata's were famous for.

So you bought a car with a mad scientist in the transfer case doing all the work for you?

:hitwithrock:

Bubba Ho-Tep 05-10-2012 09:56 PM

I love both Evos and STi's but, for the money, I'm shocked more don't go the Corvette route. 7k supercharger/tune and your in the 9's with tire. Though you might break the rear attempting.... :tapedshut:

4G63 05-11-2012 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomas (Post 1409133)
^ Please move out of Florida. You are not welcome in the Sunshine State.




Fixed for accuracy

Someone mad they have a big turbo and their car is still slow? How's that traction must me fun driving a 35k+ paperweight. You're argument is invalid and ur penis is small

Tomas 05-11-2012 07:00 AM

What am I arguing?
I love EVOs. I just think you're a homo. Just like your muscle car homo friends. That's all. There are certainly many homos on an EVO out there faster than my FWD donkey but it holds fairly well on a road course against them.
35k+?
I will eat your moms corn hole if you find an EVO that has invested less money in it than my MS3 and is faster on a road course. Doesn't exist buddy. Well, actually I'd eat your mom's corn hole even if you don't. lol

Min 4:30 For EVO man to man love.
I have a lot of this if you want.


4G63 05-11-2012 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas (Post 1409569)
if you find an EVO that has invested less money in it than my MS3 and is faster on a road course. Doesn't exist buddy.

With everything invested in mine ive spent 18k. Car and all mods. You lose. I'd watch ur vid but NCE. Ms3 doesn't compare to an Evo. Stop trying

Tomas 05-11-2012 07:18 AM

Vid is not for you.
It's for the MS3 owners so they know EVO drivers are homos.
And I'd leave you crying if you ever met me with your 18K EVO on a road course. Don't feel bad though. You wouldn't be the first one.


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