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ricknm 07-30-2012 09:29 AM

New info on the 2013 speeds
 
Well, My dealer got our emails today to place our orders for new cars. Turns out the 2013 speed 3s will be close to the same look outside, but inside will feature a full color touch screen navigation, HD radio, and a Pandora audio application.

The wheels are going to be 18" dark anodized alloy wheels (I know that was posted in a thread already), "mazdaspeed unique two-tone rear roof spoiler, and rear lower valance. I have a picture of what the head unit will look like, but cant post it until I get home from work later tonight. It looks like the same one thats in the 13 CX-5s if that helps.


Again, I know this was already discussed, but this will be the proof..

Dmurray06 07-30-2012 09:31 AM

News to me. Thanks!

Abu Zib 07-30-2012 09:34 AM

subbed for pics...

soaptray 07-30-2012 09:36 AM

Subbeeeedd thanks!

Jh8909 07-30-2012 09:38 AM

First i've heard of it. Interested to see how it looks

silentwolf8 07-30-2012 09:38 AM

Subbed for more info and future updates!

ricknm 07-30-2012 09:41 AM

I know there are pictures of the body already somewhere in here, but Ill have a picture of the head unit, as well as the email saying the new options and trim level options.

ANITIX87 07-30-2012 09:41 AM

I really hope the new head unit will be retro-fit ready to 2010-2012 MS3s. And I similarly hope the two-tone bumper is the same other than the color, so that I can throw a CWP one on my car if I haven't gotten it painted by then!

TIS

Roddiy 07-30-2012 09:45 AM

Subbed for info. Also want pics of those wheels.


Fail on Mazda for not making it AWD. I swear, the year they do that, I'm trading my car in for winning.

Darth_Nuruodo 07-30-2012 09:58 AM

Bumpers and mirrors should be black mica, if the earlier rumors were to be believed. The head unit is relevant to my interests though...

2010t 07-30-2012 10:05 AM

I am glad that they are making navigation screen bigger. While they were there, they should of changed headlights and front bumper, but oh well, maybe that will happen in 2014 models. Now is the time to grab 2012's for cheap I guess.

MizzyMS3 07-30-2012 10:10 AM

definately subbing for pics of this

diego_uru 07-30-2012 10:17 AM

Subbbed to see the head unit

manila 07-30-2012 10:31 AM

More info on this head unit!

JDR767 07-30-2012 10:35 AM

Mazda...we want better head!!! (units)

Monotonous ONE 07-30-2012 10:43 AM

water temp gauge??

HAHA

Roddiy 07-30-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR767 (Post 1533780)
Mazda...we want better head!!! (units)

Just head would be fine as well.

ricknm 07-30-2012 10:54 AM

1 Attachment(s)
sorry for the shitty quality...confidential...oooppppps

Note:

This is a picture of the Skyactives, which will be the same according to this document.

Roddiy 07-30-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricknm (Post 1533818)
sorry for the shitty quality...confidential...oooppppps

Note:

This is a picture of the Skyactives, which will be the same according to this document.

That's fucking awesome! It looks like the 8" touchscreen HU that I wanted to get.


Do you think these could be retro-fitted?

ricknm 07-30-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddiy (Post 1533827)
That's fucking awesome! It looks like the 8" touchscreen HU that I wanted to get.


Do you think these could be retro-fitted?



That I have no idea. Until we get one it will be tough to tell. And Im not expecting to get any for probably another 2 months, maybe more. When we place orders, Mazda then builds the cars off of our order, so it can take alot of time.

JDR767 07-30-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddiy (Post 1533827)
That's fucking awesome! It looks like the 8" touchscreen HU that I wanted to get.


Do you think these could be retro-fitted?

If they are smart it will be...I'm sure they can sell a shit tonne of these...I'd buy one

2010t 07-30-2012 12:15 PM

Are they doing anything to the material of the seats, or will it still have red dots?

Elusivellama 07-30-2012 12:53 PM

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...4/#post1434733

Bit of a repost, but thanks for the additional info.

apedz 07-30-2012 01:18 PM

i may have to wait till this is available instead of picking up a 2012

Ma77 07-30-2012 01:39 PM

Looks nice I love that tri-screen action going on.

Crochese 07-30-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ma77 (Post 1534102)
Looks nice I love that tri-screen action going on.

I'm interested to see if the top left information screen and head unit play nicely together. Would be great to have the map or stereo info on the head unit, with the upper display just showing the next turn info.

NCZ13 07-30-2012 03:29 PM

Even if they could fit, no one here is going to want to pay what they cost. The head units at Hyundai cost several grand for nav units, and not all of those were touch screen. I would imagine the ones for Mazda are similarly priced.

ahfunaki 07-30-2012 08:23 PM

^^^ this. OEM parts like that are insane expensive...

Looks much better though...

Onelovesoccer 07-31-2012 07:38 AM

still really wish the new gun metal stockers were 8" instead of still being 7.5" with 225s. i would have bought a set of 2013 stock wheels had they been 8". could run 245s on those. oh well, i'd prefer an 8.5" anyway so that i can get 255s on there.

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 08:04 AM

Really if you want stocker look with gunmetal and 8" wide look at RX-8 R3 rims, identical to pu stockers except they are darker and 19x8. I know I've got my eye on a set down the road. But just like all stock Mazda parts, they are stupid expensive -- $1300 each MSRP. Gives no hope for this head unit being a reasonable cost.

SparkySparks 07-31-2012 08:12 AM

Kind of wished I had held off for a 2013 but oh well, I love my 2012.

Onelovesoccer 07-31-2012 09:24 AM

eh, not a fan of rx-8 rims at all to be honest. probably one of the few. a bunch of people run them, so i'd rather go with Nurburgring if i'm doing something a lot of people run. and yeah, that head unit is going to be expensive. i would love to have it though.

Easter Bunny 07-31-2012 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onelovesoccer (Post 1535481)
eh, not a fan of rx-8 rims at all to be honest. probably one of the few. a bunch of people run them, so i'd rather go with Nurburgring if i'm doing something a lot of people run. and yeah, that head unit is going to be expensive. i would love to have it though.

suggestion was for rx-8 r3.... same design as pu just 19x8

Onelovesoccer 07-31-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 1535493)
suggestion was for rx-8 r3.... same design as pu just 19x8

oh shit i didnt catch that. how would 19s do? i'm guessing i would have to get a XXX/30/19? with 18x8.5 i was going for 255/35/18.

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 10:17 AM

245/ 35-40/R19s on that 19x8 rim, that's what I drool over. Just major bank. Lowest I could find the R3s was like 650 each. Fuck that.

ms3rick 07-31-2012 10:22 AM

subbbbedd789123

Tokay444 07-31-2012 10:26 AM

Lol at awd speed3 suggestion. Why take it from the top of its category and put it at the bottom of another?

ricknm 07-31-2012 10:43 AM

^^ not to mention the huge price change. Im sure with the new head unit the 2013 will already be around 27*** or more

jrlms6 07-31-2012 11:31 AM

Subbed.

dale_gribble 07-31-2012 11:34 AM

I already picked up some of the 2013 MS3 rims in gunmetal.

http://www.intergate.com/~rpurcell/m...me_center1.jpg

http://www.intergate.com/~rpurcell/m...me_center2.jpg













j/k, I had these powdered to match the 19" RX8 R3s and they just happened to be the same color as the 2013s seem to be. I was ahead of the curve.

ricknm 07-31-2012 11:37 AM

@dale_gribble Are they darker in person? it almost doesnt look too much different from stock color in those pictures

MAZ 07-31-2012 11:38 AM

sub'd

dale_gribble 07-31-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricknm (Post 1535729)
@dale_gribble Are they darker in person? it almost doesnt look too much different from stock color in those pictures

They are noticeably darker. Noone is going to mistake them for stock wheels.

Stock wheels

http://www.intergate.com/~rpurcell/mazda/autoexe1.jpg

'Gunmetal' aka black chrome powder

http://www.intergate.com/~rpurcell/m...6_071912_1.jpg

ricknm 07-31-2012 11:44 AM

They do look darker in that picture. I agree, in that first picture they looked a little lighter, sunlight I guess

leomagnus 07-31-2012 12:29 PM

Looks like mine after the brake dust gathers on them....

Onelovesoccer 07-31-2012 12:51 PM

@Darth_Nuruodo, yeah man, it's not cheap. also, i figured a 19" wheel plus XXX/40/19 tire would be too tall, but i guess not. either way, after a lot of discussion, i'd like an 8.5" so i can get 255s on there.

@dale_gribble, well, i wouldn't say getting wheels powder coated gun metal black is in anyway shape or form being ahead of the curve...lol but they look good!

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 01:28 PM

Would not be too much tire with the giant wheel wells in the pu. Just can't go as low, which isn't really a concern of mine.

Zerocool 07-31-2012 01:59 PM

you color doesn't really match the R3's.. Too light. Go KAD GTR Gunmetal like I did.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...4-15201053.jpg

bobbybennett23 07-31-2012 02:19 PM

l like the blue gages lolol

Onelovesoccer 07-31-2012 02:23 PM

@Darth_Nuruodo, yeah, i care more about traction than being slammed.

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 02:31 PM

Same here. Don't care about going low, that's why I'm fine with a bigger tire in there. Just saying that stancefags might have some trouble running a 40 height tire on a 19" rim. But then they'd just camber it to hell anyway to make it fit.

Deldran 07-31-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricknm (Post 1535624)
^^ not to mention the huge price change. Im sure with the new head unit the 2013 will already be around 27*** or more

why would it be a huge price change. If you configure a cx-5 i think its 1000 - 1500 more for AWD. plenty worth it in my book.

Sure it might not have the same power and such as a STI or Evo, but it for sure looks better and has a better interior

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 02:54 PM

What, so we could be the VW GTI of the AWD world? "Yeah, it's not as fast, but it looks better, rides better, and is nicer inside..."

Deldran 07-31-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Nuruodo (Post 1536150)
What, so we could be the VW GTI of the AWD world? "Yeah, it's not as fast, but it looks better, rides better, and is nicer inside..."

I would buy it over a evo or sti. Stock power dont mean much to me as long as it has potential for more

Sent from galaxy Nexus vis xenonHD

Darth_Nuruodo 07-31-2012 03:14 PM

Yeah, no we wouldn't be competing agains evo or sti, we'd be classed with wrx and ralliart. Sorry.

ricknm 07-31-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1536142)
why would it be a huge price change. If you configure a cx-5 i think its 1000 - 1500 more for AWD. plenty worth it in my book.

Sure it might not have the same power and such as a STI or Evo, but it for sure looks better and has a better interior

think about it. now a tech package speed 3 is $26,900. add that $1,200 for awd (assuming it would be about that) and the price difference for the new HU, its probably going to be around $30,000. Why make the speed 3 that much more money when its already killing its competition, like the civics, gti's, and other cars in that class. leave the AWD to subaru and mitsu.

Deldran 07-31-2012 03:32 PM

I still think there should be the option for awd

Sent from galaxy Nexus vis xenonHD

ganque 07-31-2012 03:42 PM

subbed

Tokay444 07-31-2012 06:08 PM

You'll want a minimum 9" rim for 255

ricknm 07-31-2012 06:12 PM

If they give us anymore info/more pictures on the upcoming 13my speeds, I will be posting them here first..

forcedinduktion 07-31-2012 06:12 PM

I want that HU!

Onelovesoccer 08-01-2012 07:12 AM

@Tokay444, i'm not sure about that. when i was talking to @driver311 about it, he told me his set up. he stated:

Quote:

Do 18x8.5 and run 245/35/18. Or 255/35/18. Ive ran both. The 255/35 look real tough. If you go 17x9 or 8.5 then rock 255/40/17. Around 45 offset is perfect but requires spacers in front to work propa. These car are dumb with anything less than 245 on them and if your not really slammed you can go real wide in the front. Limited to about 255-265 in rear. But its easy to get a 275/35/18 under the front.
you figure i'm fitting 235s on a 7.5", so an 8.5" fitting a 255 seems legit. absolutely the widest i would go on an 8.5" though. and he was saying on a 9" you can get up to 275s in the front, 265s in the back. of course, there are plenty of factors to take into account other than simply, "will it fit?" but from what i read, it seems the responsiveness doesn't really drop off with 255s on 8.5".

leon78 08-01-2012 07:40 AM

Better head....sweetness! Now we just need less smile in the front.

Tokay444 08-01-2012 07:42 AM

Minimum rim width for 235 is 8". So you're a half inch out a cross the board. That is of course going by tire manufacturer spec.
You can mount whatever you want on anything you want.

SilkBraahJJ 08-01-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Nuruodo (Post 1536150)
What, so we could be the VW GTI of the AWD world? "Yeah, it's not as fast, but it looks better, rides better, and is nicer inside..."

Golf R already says hi.

Sent from my DROID RAZR

Onelovesoccer 08-01-2012 07:47 AM

right, manufacturer spec does say that. but my 235s on the 7.5" have felt fine. but i will say, a tire like the star specs in 255 is apparently more like a 265, so some depends on the tire.

anyway, this just furthers my desire for the stock rims to come bigger. being limited (according to manufacturers spec) to 225s for this car on stockers is lame.

Tokay444 08-01-2012 07:52 AM

Yes

evil MS3 08-06-2012 09:09 AM

Thanks for posting this info. It's really making me consider waiting to pick up a MY13 over MY12 since it has everything I would want to do to a MY12 done (painted rear valance, darker wheels and the full screen nav)

One thing I noticed on the pic of the new dash is the AC controls look off, or maybe thats just because this pic was of a car without the dual climate zone controls.

Dr. Speed 08-06-2012 10:45 AM

This is awesome news! Subbed for more pics/info :)

msew 10-01-2012 12:03 PM

Anyone know the price for the headunit yet? I kind of might want it ...:sour:

msew 10-01-2012 01:21 PM

How much do you think that headunit will go for?

manila 10-01-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msew (Post 1658276)
How much do you think that headunit will go for?

Judging by your avatar I'm assuming you own a gen1?
The 13' headunit will not fit your car

msew 10-01-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manilaMS12 (Post 1658308)
Judging by your avatar I'm assuming you own a gen1?
The 13' headunit will not fit your car

No no. That's my old one. Got a 2012 now

Dr. Speed 10-02-2012 10:28 AM

@ricknm or anyone else, do you have any more/better pics of the new HU in the MZ3 or MS3? The website/marketing douches at Mazda haven't posted any on the website even though the 2013's are up now.

ricknm 10-02-2012 10:38 AM

Not yet. We should be getting the 13s this month. Once we do, I will post pics if they havent been already.

leon78 10-02-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricknm (Post 1533818)
sorry for the shitty quality...confidential...oooppppps

Note:

This is a picture of the Skyactives, which will be the same according to this document.

Am I the only one to notice the nudes after the pic of the head unit! :wow: :biglaugh:

1nstinct 10-02-2012 03:31 PM

I like the HU, i dont want that tiny ass Nav tho. Im going to be looking to get a 13 as my first speed3 so i subbed this one. Let us know how much the HU cost, and if it is going to be part of the tech package, or if you can get it separate.


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