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SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 02:39 AM

A Nissan landed on my Mazda :(
 
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So at 0200 I was awaken by the local PD saying my car was in an accident. I woke up from my slumber and I started scratching my head. My car is parked in a garage, how can it possibility be in an accident when its stationary? Then I thought to myself well maybe someone pulled in and accidentally hit the back of it, maybe a minor scratch. I go outside to meet the cops and lone and behold, take a look at the pic. A Nissan was on top of my hood and windscreen! Still drowsy at the moment, my first reaction was, oh no, I hope my corksport SRI/TIP is ok, it took me forever to install it lol. And then reality kicked in and OMG a sedan is parked on top of my baby!

The driver, who just had her license for a month was parking in a spot when she decided to hit the brakes, but what she thought was her brake was....yep the throttle.

At first the cops said the damage was mostly my windscreen, but upon closer inspection after the removal of the Nissan there was damage in the A pillar, side fender, hood and roof.
Thanks goodness insurance can sort out this mess and in no doubt this was not my fault. I hope it does not take forever to repair the car.

What was cool was I got a two police car escort to the local Mazda dealership; going 10 mph and barely seeing out the windscreen. Time to call the insurance tomorrow :(

Sorry for the ramble I'd thought I'd share.

-John

mtnrunner 04-15-2011 02:58 AM

damn that really sucks. i would honestly way rather have the car totaled out and just go buy another one.

SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 03:02 AM

I would too, but I don't think that's gonna happen. I was able to start it and drive to the dealership. If anything they would have to remove all the pillars and roof, and the hood and fender flares are easy fixes I guess. I hope when they fix it they would check the shocks b/c there was a lot of weight on it. And maybe this was in the moment but I thought there might be something wrong with the clutch, but that could be in my head. Now I just wish I can fall asleep...

_Toxic_ 04-15-2011 03:16 AM

Thats crazy! Hopes it works out well...

FightaX 04-15-2011 03:20 AM

wow, thats just crazy, Your baby will be back to normal in no time!!!

mzr0818 04-15-2011 03:27 AM

:wtf1:and a flipping nissan no less...

Whiteboy 04-15-2011 03:46 AM

Can I do it???? Can I say it???? That will buff out! hahahaha

That does suck though but what do you expect from a female driver??? :drive:

whos_MS3 04-15-2011 03:57 AM

geebuz! why'd you drive it to the dealership instead of getting it towed? especially if you could barely see? just saying is all......

Tokay444 04-15-2011 04:17 AM

^^^this.
Because stupid cops are stupid.

i8urgti 04-15-2011 04:40 AM

thats pretty epic

whitespeed 04-15-2011 04:51 AM

That sucks, hope it all gets sorted out. But on a better note, your car is still happy...

SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whos_MS3 (Post 810517)
geebuz! why'd you drive it to the dealership instead of getting it towed? especially if you could barely see? just saying is all......

Well actually the cops were pretty accommodating. I didn't want to pay extra towing fee and the closest dealership is 3 miles away so they just escorted me there. One in front and one behind. There were very few cars on the road anyway. And I was still able to see a bit and follow the lead car at a very slow speed. Sorry for the confusion.

oh10speed3 04-15-2011 05:05 AM

so, was the corksport sri/tip fine?

and that really sucks man. for your sake, i hope that they total it so you can get another genpu. i would make sure they fix everything that is wrong with it, especially since she is paying for it. it would be very easy for them to say "suspension is fine" but if they don't replace it, it'll probably never ride the same.

AegisKlein 04-15-2011 05:56 AM

MS3 Convertible!!!

jrlms6 04-15-2011 05:59 AM

That's crazy, good luck with the whole process man. Such a bummer.

deyomatic 04-15-2011 06:02 AM

Mistaking the brake for the throttle should mean INSTANT loss of license.

I think I would have poked the windshield out and driven without it, just for the hell of it kind of like an old 1920s speedster. The way insurance shit is these days, I wouldn't give up on them totaling it just yet. I wonder if straightening and or cutting and welding another roof/pillars on there will affect its safety in a crash, you know? Good luck. Hope it all gets sorted out quickly.

obijack 04-15-2011 06:07 AM

my condolences

mghtymouse380 04-15-2011 06:21 AM

That sucks man. Hope you get your shit fixed soon.

Raider 04-15-2011 06:24 AM

1) add roadside coverage to your insurance, ya cheap bastard. $12 a year with Progressive. Hell. Mazda gave me 5 years of it too.
2) A pillar damage might total it.
3) donate
4) Sorry about your car.

Jeremy M 04-15-2011 06:26 AM

the nissan owner was just jealous of ur ms3

Raider 04-15-2011 06:29 AM

Or, her Nissan saw the GenPu smiling at it, went in for a kiss.

Silver Ecstasy 04-15-2011 06:30 AM

Ahh god that hurts. That fucking bitch.. I LOATHE new drivers with absolutely no driving skills..

SRTie4k 04-15-2011 06:31 AM

AFAIK, the pillars and roof are all part of the Unibody, which means if they are damaged the car is considered totaled. After all, if your pillars are damaged, they weld new ones on and somewhere down the line you happen to roll the car, you think the structural integrity of the roof will remain intact after welding?

I'd put my money on them totaling it if there is any damage to the pillars at all.

JacksonMS30 04-15-2011 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 810571)
1) add roadside coverage to your insurance, ya cheap bastard. $12 a year with Progressive. Hell. Mazda gave me 5 years of it too.
2) A pillar damage might total it.
3) donate
4) Sorry about your car.

This...

Also sorry to here. Make sure insurance knows about your intake so you can take it off and put it on your new car when you get it.

Ckmazdaspeed3 04-15-2011 06:37 AM

Teenage girls, good for bjs, not for driving.

MS3inDC 04-15-2011 06:48 AM

removed reposted humor...

Bucker 04-15-2011 06:50 AM

Shit man, sorry to hear this! At least you should get a fresh start with a new one! Make sure you get the intake before they scrap it... What the fuck is the problem with people like that bitch. How hard is it to use a brake? I'm just picturing her pulling into a parking spot at full speed with her foot still on the throttle. Ugh.

MPSdriver 04-15-2011 07:00 AM

Man that sucks, I truely hope you'll get a new one b/c no matter how well they'll fix it, something is always going to be slightly off, ratlle, induce noises etc.

mdl3v8 04-15-2011 07:01 AM

LOL, you almost have to just laugh. There are some stupid people. That sucks though...

Nudes of driver?

BudUMfan 04-15-2011 07:06 AM

Wow! That is ridonkulous. Good luck man.

rodrigo 04-15-2011 07:10 AM

in b4 "congrats" from ma ninja

the_caruch 04-15-2011 07:24 AM

jesus that's crazy.

I'll never understand how people mistake the brake for the gas. boggles my mind.

triplejumper18 04-15-2011 07:36 AM

If the Nissan owner gave it any more gas your GenPu's big ol' smiley would have been doing ass to mouth.

SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 07:41 AM

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First off thank you all for your support! I really appreciate it. I have uploaded more photos of the damage including the roof and A pillar. I went to the dealership today and the body shop guy said he is able to fix everything. He said the roof is a separate piece and can be wielded to the pillars. And he also said something about being able to fix the pillars. Now from my understanding this car is a unibody. So how can the roof be just welded back in place? Does anyone have any reference or proof that can refute the body shop individual's argument?

Also, he made the comment that insurance companies usually chose to pay other fabricated body panels that are not from Mazda for replacements. That really sucks! He did mention that glass is mostly from an aftermarket, but quality should be just as good.

From my experiences with the dealership in the past they are pretty good and mod friendly. So I am not sure whether to argue every argument or what. He also said if my SRI/TIP is damaged then the insurance company will replace them for me. The body shop guy said he will be there when the appraiser comes next week, not sure if that's a good sign or what.

Oh and I think I am leaking coolant...Anyway chances are this will not be a write off since it is a 2010 and relatively new, I do have a little over 15,100 miles. All in all I hope if they do fix it Mazda parts will be fitted.

P.S. That girl must have been a terrible driver cause there were plenty of room to stop. She went at an angle to her parking spot, shot past some mulch and a 8 in ledge.

-John

Raider 04-15-2011 07:56 AM

Check your policy to see what parts they say they will use. Most will say OEM, but can throw "remanufactured" (factory pull-offs that are damaged, then repaired, resold) or even aftermarket. I would not want that shit fixed. Windshield will start leaking in a few years, if they fuck it up. Did you not pop the hood to look at the engine before you drove it? You will want to now.

phillyb 04-15-2011 08:03 AM

looks good
donate to the site

lyonsroar 04-15-2011 08:08 AM

Free front drop! Look how low it is! Keep that shit.


My condolences. I too wouldn't want that fixed

Elusivellama 04-15-2011 08:16 AM

There is a reason why the brake pedal on autos (I'm assuming it's an auto because...well...yeah) is nearly twice as large as the gas pedal. Sorry about your car, it's bullshit that your car may end up with non Mazda parts because of this.

boostislove 04-15-2011 08:53 AM

this is so epic... Let us know what happens.

If it were me I'd tell the insurance company that if they do not total the car, i will sue them. You CANNOT cut the unibody and weld it back and expect the same safety.

Lytheum 04-15-2011 08:54 AM

pretty sure you should be able to request only oem replacement parts. its not your insurance or your fault. usually the aftermarket crap doesnt fit well and uses thinner metal

Ex_WRX_driver 04-15-2011 08:55 AM

I think a cunt punt is in order here.

boostislove 04-15-2011 08:55 AM

ur suspension is surely fucked too dude dont let them tell u otherwise.

rghispanic88 04-15-2011 08:58 AM

Damn, that sucks. Hope it gets fixed

mzr0818 04-15-2011 09:16 AM

All states are different, but in NC I know that if the car is less than a year old they have to use new OEM parts, after a year they can do what ever used or aftermarket.:jerkit:

SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 09:16 AM

The appraiser won't arrive until sometime next week. It is at a Mazda dealer right now and the body shop guy says they will do whatever the appraiser decides, whether OEM or aftermarket. He also said he will step in if he feels the appraiser is off in the estimate, but I doubt he will challenge the appraiser to total the car, then the body shop don't get paid.

Also, my insurance company gave me a choice I can either do the repair at the mazda dealer or go to their approved location (not mazda dealer). The benefit of going to their approved location is they will pay my rental if the repair takes longer than a month. But the drawback I believe is they will do the cheapest work since they are affiliated with the insurance company. And like I said before the body shop guy at the dealer is not going too step in and say its totaled cause then the dealer does not get paid...Which one should I chose? According to dealer estimate they said it should take 3 weeks because they are in a slow timeframe...BS? Might bite me later on if they go over?

Thanks guys for your opinions, but the car being totaled is looking more like a pipe dream. Wonder if Jalopnik will like this lol

-John

mzr0818 04-15-2011 09:26 AM

This is true of all body shops including dealer's. They will all try to do it as cheap as possible, but the dealer will use the most OEM parts as possible. They can get them internally for less then retail and will usually have most on hand. Where most aftermarket parts they have to buy at what everyone else does and they wil have to wait for them.

Lytheum 04-15-2011 09:27 AM

imo...sneak into the dealer at night to ensure it is totaled!

Lex 04-15-2011 09:36 AM

Yikes. Hope they total it.

speed14 04-15-2011 09:54 AM

Sorry to hear, and dont be surprised when the apprasier says it's a total loss. From the pics it looks like there is just too much structural damage to be worth fixing. just my .02

Good luck!

08.5MS3 04-15-2011 09:57 AM

Hell, an 08 or 09 was in a little fender bender a few months back and it was totaled. This shit is FUBAR. It needs to be totaled.

Sorry to hear about this.

PSU fan by any chance?

bamorgan7 04-15-2011 10:00 AM

hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahqah aha fucking funny

BeeZaa 04-15-2011 10:09 AM

Please send this in to Jalopnik, this would bring be an epic story to reinforce the fact that most women can't drive for shit.

JTMS3 04-15-2011 12:16 PM

That should be a totalled claim. Basically the whole front end is fucked, suspension, frame, pillars and hopefully nothing happened to the engine. Good luck but I will agree this goes down as one of the stupidest women driver stories I have seen or heard.

Raider 04-15-2011 12:19 PM

Go down and swap out the mods. Once they total it, most of the time you cannot touch or go near it.

mrFanel 04-15-2011 12:23 PM

Yup - that is fuckin totaled to no end.

An assflute drove over my Integra a few years back - my car was parked at the curb with the wheel turned towards the curb and his fuckin Festiva caught my turned wheel and he drove over it.

There was not much damage if you look at the car - the suspension blew right away but that's cuz it was 13 years old; I had some dents on my fender, a dent on my door - but it was still driveable.

However - there was a TEENY TINY kink in the frame; the hood was pretty dented and a small dent in the a-pillar. Farmers, the other guys insurance, totalled it on the spot - the quote to repair it was close to 7 grand and the car was worth 4 (I got 5).

Obviously you can't compare a 13 year old car at the time to a 1 year old car however your car's damage is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than mine; I'll be surprised if they decide to repair it.

rigor 04-15-2011 01:02 PM

she should have to give you head, till the new car shows up!

i wouldn't want that pos now!

they are never the same after some hack thrashes trough your car, pulling out all the adhered shit! that thing will rattle like a mother fucker!

you bought a new car you deserve a new car! fuck that patched up pos

spiker98 04-15-2011 01:49 PM

I would probably try to fight it if the insurance company does not total it. Is there anyway to appeal their decision?


This really sucks dude. I don't see how you can be pulling in the parking space and hit the gas... why would your foot be near the gas?? I would have asked to see her license for information then thrown it out of the parking garage. Fucking dumb bitch.

PunjabiPlaya 04-15-2011 02:05 PM

grats, now you have her address. Fuck her and post noodz. Oh and some comment about your car

wankular 04-15-2011 02:46 PM

2:00 AM huh? How drunk was that stupid bitch?

9900rpm 04-15-2011 02:58 PM

OP, sorry about your car. If insurance does decide to fix it, chances are you will get all OEM parts. I don't think there are any aftermarket body parts companies that made pillars and MS3 hoods yet. Fenders, maybe, but probably not. It's not like it's a Civic and there's millions of them.

Oh, and I noticed that it looks like they pulled the Nissan out backwards off your car. I would have gotten in the MS3 and reversed out, letting that Altima drop into your parking spot!

Ziggo 04-15-2011 03:21 PM

If they total it try to figure out where it goes. That longblock is still in great shape I bet.

327whp 04-15-2011 03:22 PM

Sure hope the dealership aren't asses about it and void the remainder of your warranty do to the SRI/TIP. That sucks man. Hope all goes well but I would at least try and bullshit someone into a new car vs repair

PunjabiPlaya 04-15-2011 03:52 PM

lol @ attention whore
lol @ Jalopnik for getting the model wrong

Jalopnik - Drive Free or Die

Quote:

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Even your garage isn&#8217t safe anymore



http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets.../939190_32.jpg Justin Hyde &#8212 When you park your car in a garage, you generally assume it's safe from head-on accidents. Here's how one man found out that wasn't the case and found out what happens when your Mazda gets a Nissan hat.
John sends in this story about finding someone putting a Nissan in his Mazda3:
At 2 a.m. I was awoken by the local PD saying my car was in an accident. I woke up from my slumber and I started scratching my head. My car is parked in a garage, how can it possibility be in an accident when its stationary? Then I thought to myself well maybe someone pulled in and accidentally hit the back of it, maybe a minor scratch.
A Nissan was on top of my hood and windscreen! Still drowsy at the moment, my first reaction was, oh no, I hope my corksport SRI/TIP is ok, it took me forever to install it... And then reality kicked in and OMG a sedan is parked on top of my baby!
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...m_img_0427.jpgTurns out the wreck was caused by a driver who confused the brake and accelerator after just a month of driving experience. The damage falls short of totaling the Mazda3. Thanks John!

b1iNkl82 04-15-2011 04:04 PM

Hopefully she busted her face open getting out of her car. This is just sad.

Burger2002 04-15-2011 04:10 PM

Wow.... Just wow....
Profound comment I know, but... wow.


Damn Bitches.

Phoenix Speed3 04-15-2011 04:17 PM

More then likely it will be totaled.

Sorry about female drivers, wish we could deny them the right to drive like old people.

Are you going to get another MS3?

Donate so you have karma on your side.

STOP BEING A BROWNIE

08.5MS3 04-15-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wankular (Post 811294)
2:00 AM huh? How drunk was that stupid bitch?

I was thinking the same thing, but I do not want to assume.

SpeedEMS 04-15-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 (Post 810875)
Hell, an 08 or 09 was in a little fender bender a few months back and it was totaled. This shit is FUBAR. It needs to be totaled.

Sorry to hear about this.

PSU fan by any chance?

I actually go to PSU. This happened in state college. Regarding some of the questions, the girl that was driving was not drunk, just plain stupid. I appreciate everyone's optimism about the possibility of the car being totaled. But most likely this will not happen according to the body shop guy at the dealership. My hopes if they do repair it, they will use only OEM parts and not stupid fabricated replicas.

And the reason I sent this in to Jalopnik was to hopefully shine more light on it to my insurance company, hopefully it will pressure them to write it off :), but just a dream.

And I may consider another speed 3, I do LOVE IT! I will keep you guys updated.

Thanks again everyone!

-John

phillyb 04-15-2011 05:28 PM

hooray for jalopnik

08.5MS3 04-15-2011 05:31 PM

I'm a big Nittany Lion fan. Use to have season tickets back in middle and high school. Good shit.

They need to total that car.

bayarea_pat 04-15-2011 05:42 PM

Why was she driving when she should have been in the kitchen making us all sammiches?

snOhio 04-15-2011 06:06 PM

maybe i missed this because i'm an idiot, but isn't this going through her insurance company? you need to read up on your legal rights in PA, every state is a little different but you need to be informed before you talk to the adjuster. i've dealt with shady ones and stupid ones, either way can have a negative outcome for your repair. there are also some that are courteous and professional, but remember, they represent someone who has a vested interest in your repair being settled for the smallest dollar amount.

good luck brah

SpeedSixxx 04-15-2011 06:10 PM

LOL... and after all that your car is still happy...:knockedout:

m4tic 04-15-2011 06:13 PM

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KusteLokal 04-15-2011 06:17 PM

damn dude that sucks. but thats why we have insurance

Raider 04-15-2011 06:29 PM

Amen... (see my sig)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayarea_pat (Post 811500)
Why was she driving when she should have been in the kitchen making us all sammiches?


fhaze 04-15-2011 08:34 PM

She was all like "I totally got my left and right foot all mixed up"

He was all like "Come over here, I totally get the vagina and the asshole mixed up."

TRex 04-15-2011 09:07 PM

first off it is the body shop's decision to use oem or not....they give the insurance adjuster the quote...not the other way around (unless it is a clear total)...you tell the body shop you want oem and that is what they will quote for....if they wont then switch body shops.....why did you take it to the dealer anyway?.....they suck at everything

and another thing...you tell those fuckers it is totaled....unless that dealer signs something saying they are liable for the structural integrity of the roof after those welds...you tell them to fuck off and you are not driving around with a welded on roof

volodya84 04-16-2011 05:51 AM

I saw this article on Jalopnik first.... And I was like Mazda3, hmm, thats weird..

Then I saw the words "Corksport SRI/TIP" and I was like why would a regular Mz3 have a tip they must be tripping balls over there.

Then I lol'ed and opened up MSF. Epic shits epic.

jamesjjj 04-16-2011 09:02 AM

was the girl hot?

Wildfire 04-16-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesjjj (Post 812047)
was the girl hot?

+2

That sucks. Hoepfully it works out for you. Try to get the car totalled. Give the tech $20 to tell the insurance guy that it's totalled.

Easter Bunny 04-17-2011 07:53 AM

Pray to god that is totaled, even if they manage to get it put back together straight it will never be right again, you will have 4 times as many squeaks as stock and will die if it is ever in another serious accident.

BTW. you do not have to take the insurance company's first offer. Haggle just like it is a new car. When my last car got totaled the original offer was $2100 i refused to settle until they gave me $3800.

thanox2 04-17-2011 08:22 AM

Saw this @ Jalopnik this morning.

Jalopnik - Drive Free or Die

bscar 04-17-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

I went to the dealership today and the body shop guy said he is able to fix everything. He said the roof is a separate piece and can be wielded to the pillars. And he also said something about being able to fix the pillars. Now from my understanding this car is a unibody. So how can the roof be just welded back in place?
Do not talk to the body shop anymore, talk to your insurance agent and let them deal with it.

SpeedEMS 04-17-2011 11:42 AM

Thanks everyone for the advice so far. I am new at this and I really don't want to be screwed by either the insurance company or any body shop.

Speaking about advice, anyone have anymore advice on how to deal the the appraiser. Again I have not heard back from the appraiser, but my insurance company said someone will call on monday.

Questions:
Is it important for me to be present at the appraisal? I plan on being there , but I do have classes and that may be difficult.

Should I worry too much that the appraiser might try not to write off the car since they don't want to insurance company to pay out? For some reason I am having a difficult time trusting them.

And the dealer body shop person said he will be present to go through everything with the appraiser, is that shady? May he influence the appraiser someway, since if it is written off the dealership won't get paid?

And if the appraiser says it won't be written off, is there anyway to fight it since I am worried about structural integrity?

Very Respectfully,
John

stefan 04-17-2011 12:17 PM

how come nobody has asked the obious yet?

PICS OF SAID GIRL?

other than that, i hope they total the car and give you a check for a new one!

Easter Bunny 04-17-2011 07:31 PM

The appraiser is going to come to an estimate without the help of the body shop. When you are talking to the appraiser (in person or on phone) make sure that you bring up diminished value, who will warranty the work etc. You really want to push the diminished value since with that amount of damage, even if it is fixed very well, will make the car worth thousands less than it would be otherwise.

Can you open the hood? I would bet that with that damage there is all sorts of shit broken, intercooler, battery, ecu, valve cover, brake and clutch cylinders, etc. Make them warranty the motor as well.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Tokay444 04-17-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 813716)
The appraiser is going to come to an estimate without the help of the body shop. When you are talking to the appraiser (in person or on phone) make sure that you bring up diminished value, who will warranty the work etc. You really want to push the diminished value since with that amount of damage, even if it is fixed very well, will make the car worth thousands less than it would be otherwise.

Can you open the hood? I would bet that with that damage there is all sorts of shit broken, intercooler, battery, ecu, valve cover, brake and clutch cylinders, etc. Make them warranty the motor as well.

Good luck and keep us posted.

He fucking drove the thing.

wolly6973 04-17-2011 09:51 PM

I wouldn't worry about the dealer trying to get their cut.
If they total it out, they may get a new car sale!

spike589 04-17-2011 10:34 PM

The nice thing about a non bias appraiser that work for the insurance company is that they will give u a honest maybe a little low estimate. I had a insurance approved appraiser that work for the body shop make the estimate on my STI when a DUI driver hit me, they low balled the estimate to get the work just south of the 60% total cost of the vehicle. after they got the work they re submitted a new estimate for new findings after body panels and other things got removed. after everything was set and done they have 27K invested in the car for a 20k car. If the estimate is close to what the minimal requirement for the insurance has to just total the vehicle. U might want them to pull panels off first and re assest the situation. i.e your inner skirts got push out the valve cover got smakehs and now their is metal in your head etc. be a pain in the dick meticulous with it- at the end of the day when you get it back you will notice alot of minor thing and always picture nissan on your hood.

jax ms3gt 04-17-2011 10:46 PM

Not gonna read all the posts, but most states have a law to the effect that if a car is a certain age young (yours fits for Florida) then they have to use new Mazda parts.
Also FYG2N is probably all over Nissan forums as we speak

Easter Bunny 04-18-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 813737)
He fucking drove the thing.

Three miles at ten MPH the car works yes but that hardly constitutes a shakedown. For the sake of totalling the car he should be pushing to get all that shit replaced. Honestly if the intercooler isnt cracked it will be once some miles get put on it.

SpeedEMS 04-18-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 813716)
The appraiser is going to come to an estimate without the help of the body shop. When you are talking to the appraiser (in person or on phone) make sure that you bring up diminished value, who will warranty the work etc. You really want to push the diminished value since with that amount of damage, even if it is fixed very well, will make the car worth thousands less than it would be otherwise.

Can you open the hood? I would bet that with that damage there is all sorts of shit broken, intercooler, battery, ecu, valve cover, brake and clutch cylinders, etc. Make them warranty the motor as well.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Just spoke with the appraiser, he didn't say much, he said he read the report from the body shop and will write his own report when he gets back to the office. I asked him about diminished value and he said I would have to talk to my claims agent. The body shop guy puts the cost at a little over $7000. He said that could go higher...I opened the engine and there does not seem to be any visual damage. The dealership said they will do an electronic diagnostic test and put the feels on the alignment machine after its all done. All in all I am pretty pissed with the assessment and the appraiser...

So when I talk to the claim agent after nicely pressuring my idea of giving me diminished value cost (looks futile since I heard insurance companies usually don't do that kinda thing) should I just come out and say why don't you write it off? And I found this company that goes after diminished value claims Diminished Value I spoke to them and it sounds legit. Not sure if anyone heard anything from them, but is that worth a try? They take 1/3 plus $299 of the claim if they settle. If the settlement is less than $1500 we split 50/50. No settlement they don't get paid...

Thanks for all your advice, the claim agent should call me tomorrow.

Raider 04-18-2011 12:43 PM

Wait to hear from your agent.

my 07 GT cost $1800 for the bumper and headlight to be replaced and repainted, along with a few small things. $7000 a hood, roof, windshield, fender, and a-pillars is conservative, to me. Lots of labor in that.

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Easter Bunny 04-18-2011 01:18 PM

If the estimate comes back low it would be time to get your insurance company involved, let them do some of the fighting for you, being their customer they are more likely to be compasionate towards you. If PA doesnt have a dimnished value law you might have to sue for it. $7000 seems really low, almost like there is no labor included.

SpeedEMS 04-18-2011 01:43 PM

Ok thanks guys! I am sick and done with talking to the body shop, guess I should have listened to you guys. He is still sticking hard on little over $7000 for body parts, paint, and labor. I will just wait to see what my agent says after the appraiser. The thing I am worried about is the appraiser may be siding with him. Even though I go to a huge school (Penn State), the town is small and body repair shops may know the appraisers.

This really sucks how I have to deal with this problem when my car is parked and some idiot mixed up the pedals...

Tokay444 04-18-2011 01:51 PM

It's your choice where it gets fixed/totaled. Bring it somewhere else.

lazn 04-18-2011 01:56 PM

Don't sign anything from the adjuster or agent till you are happy that they will fix it to the condition it was prior to the accident. Unless you sign differently, this is their legal obligation. Be an asshole about it. Get a lawyer to write you a letter (nominal fee) if need be.

It was her fault, and if need be you have the right to sue her directly outside of her insurance if they won't make it good. Mention this to her and she will pressure her insurance to fix it right.

So.. insist on new parts, and no repairs to the pillars since they are what your life depends on in a accident. If the pillars are damaged and they want to repair them, ask if they will agree to a million dollar life insurance policy for free that covers you in case you get killed by your car flipping over. If they are not that sure about the repair, you are not happy about their offer to "fix" a unfixable part.

alien_sporez 04-18-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 814741)
It's your choice where it gets fixed/totaled. Bring it somewhere else.

THIS!!!

Phone another body shop (pick the best body shop in town... you're not paying for it, pick the best one), tell them you want a second opinion on the repairs. They will send their tow truck over and pick up your car (free!) to bring it there. They want the business, so they'll try to get it.

Remember, it's still your car, you can do with it as you please. If you want a 2nd opinion, get it. Phone the first body shop, say "Thank you very much for your time. A truck from ABC Body Shop is going to get my car." SIGN NOTHING!!!

Easter Bunny 04-18-2011 02:31 PM

They have provided you with a rental correct?


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