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Raptorman46 01-14-2012 12:33 PM

Noob Mod Adding Question
 
I recently just bought a 2012 MS3 w/ tech and as of right now i have to use it as my DD (hopefully that will change soon) My question is since i do need this vehicle on a daily basis i am concerned about modding due to voiding my warranty. I am not new to the modding scene but i am new to mazdas and modding new cars. there is a list of things i have planned to do to this car an was wondering if any of these will cause a voided warranty. Things on my shopping list right now are RMM, Mazdaspeed Stage 1, Mazdaspeed CAI, Rear Anti-Sway Bar, Aftermarket Wheels (looking at some Enkeis right now) and Tires amd a CBE. As whell as some Visual mods from StreetUnit.com. i Know the CBE is not a performance boost and just a sound mod really but thats why i want it. Also i specified the Mazdaspeed mods because the dealer told me if i bought Mazdaspeed mods and the dealer installed them it wouldnt void the warranty. After a second car is purchased this will just be a char show/ car meet ride as well as just more of a sunday driver. As of now though since i do need a vehicle which of those if any would cause a voided warranty if anyone knows?

anavrinIV 01-14-2012 12:47 PM

anything performance oriented could void your warranty, even the mazdaspeed parts, but it all depends on your dealer. If the dealership is cool with it then you'll be ok, but in reality they can void it with any power mods, or even a motor mount if they so please. You'll be fine with wheels and most likely a cbe and sway bar, but once you reflash the ecu and start changing intakes you may be asking for trouble. of course, you could always keep the stock tune for the time being, do an intake and motor mount, and stock out the car if you ever have to go to the dealership...not the fastest process but keeps your warranty. Mazda USA can tell if you've ever reflashed the ecu though, so you may want to be careful for the time being.

Vinnie 01-14-2012 12:47 PM

if you have the dealer saying that if they install it it won't void the warranty, go for it. make sure you have them sign something though because dealers are all faggots. they'll always try to jew you out of something. i would just do the mods you want, none of them sound to involved so you can always stock out for warranty work.


dont get the exhaust... waste of money.

Jake5713 01-14-2012 01:55 PM

Mazda USA can tell if you've ever reflashed the ecu though, so you may want to be careful for the time being.[/QUOTE]

this looks the same as if you disconnected the battery
you can flash back to stock drive a few miles and be fine

SleeperHatch 01-14-2012 02:02 PM

What the hell is Mazdaspeed Stage 1 mod? Otherwise your mod list looks fine and nothing major to void any type of warrenty unless your dealer is a faggot. I also bought my CBE because I wanted better sound so personally I see no problem in doing that as well.

SofaKingAwesome 01-14-2012 02:05 PM

I'm sure he just means an AP on a stage one tune

Sent from my Evo 3D

TRex 01-14-2012 02:09 PM

lets be clear here as many dont seem to understand

your warranty cannot be voided, your warranty CLAIM can be denied

so if you have an issue with your seat belt and you have an aftermarket intake, they would be in the wrong to deny your claim

but if you blow your engine, they would have a case, but again, the burden of proof is on them, so dont let them bully you

regardless of all of this, it is ill advised to go around advertising your mods to mazda

but fuck it who uses the dealership anyway? read the boards, do the work yourself

Raptorman46 01-14-2012 02:37 PM

Here is the link as to what i meant about mazdaspeed stage 1

Mazdaspeed3 Stage 1 Power Pack - 325.3 Ft. lbs & 291 Wheel Horsepower 2007-2011—|—MazdaSpeed3 Staged Upgrades—|—MazdaSpeed 3—|—Mazdaspeed Parts - Mazda Speed Store

The reason i dont just do it myself is because as i said in the original messages if its mazdaspeed and the dealer installs it theyll cover it. I know this because i asked about doing a K&N CAI on my first oil change but he said that could void the warranty but if i got the mazdaspeed CAI and they installed it, it would be covered. Also id rather not do any of the mods myself due to the fact im not very well with a wrench lol

crazyp 01-14-2012 02:39 PM

that is not a mazda part.

Jake5713 01-14-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorman46 (Post 1210404)
Here is the link as to what i meant about mazdaspeed stage 1

Mazdaspeed3 Stage 1 Power Pack - 325.3 Ft. lbs & 291 Wheel Horsepower 2007-2011—|—MazdaSpeed3 Staged Upgrades—|—MazdaSpeed 3—|—Mazdaspeed Parts - Mazda Speed Store

The reason i dont just do it myself is because as i said in the original messages if its mazdaspeed and the dealer installs it theyll cover it. I know this because i asked about doing a K&N CAI on my first oil change but he said that could void the warranty but if i got the mazdaspeed CAI and they installed it, it would be covered. Also id rather not do any of the mods myself due to the fact im not very well with a wrench lol

This isn't a Mazda USA part
Get a Cobb ap intake and catback
You'll be good


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-Jake

anavrinIV 01-14-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake5713 (Post 1210353)
this looks the same as if you disconnected the battery
you can flash back to stock drive a few miles and be fine

There are a couple guys on the forums who work for mazda, and from what they've said Mazda USA can hook into the OBDII port and read parameters such as max boost achieved that will tell them the ecu has been modified, completely voiding a warranty claim at that point. It doesn't matter what map is currently on the car, they can see a full history of parameters that no aftermarket device can reach or modify.

Again, this is coming from people who work for mazda. I have no warranty so I don't care, but it's relevant to the OP.

Also, OP, that's an aftermarket setup. If you want engine warranty work done, don't reflash the ecu. Period.

Stingray69 01-14-2012 02:56 PM

I am/was concerned about the same things. So for now I just went intake, RMM, OCC. All three of these things can be stocked out in an hour or two and there will be no question about warranty. The CBE makes no sense to me at all if you are worried about warranty. It can't be swapped back easily and there is no gain anyway. As far as AP I am tempeted as hell but I called Cobb themselves and they said mazda USA can tell it has been flashed. There will come a day I say Fuck the warranty and mod the shit out of it but not yet.

bigriver 01-15-2012 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorman46 (Post 1210404)
Here is the link as to what i meant about mazdaspeed stage 1

Mazdaspeed3 Stage 1 Power Pack - 325.3 Ft. lbs & 291 Wheel Horsepower 2007-2011—|—MazdaSpeed3 Staged Upgrades—|—MazdaSpeed 3—|—Mazdaspeed Parts - Mazda Speed Store

The reason i dont just do it myself is because as i said in the original messages if its mazdaspeed and the dealer installs it theyll cover it. I know this because i asked about doing a K&N CAI on my first oil change but he said that could void the warranty but if i got the mazdaspeed CAI and they installed it, it would be covered. Also id rather not do any of the mods myself due to the fact im not very well with a wrench lol

You should read this first

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...daspeed-92852/

Your link to Stage 1 is for a downpipe and racepipe made by turbo xs that is sold by mazdaspeedstore.com which is not affiliated with Mazda USA. Somewhat misleading so dont get confused. I believe your dealer is referring to mazdaspeed branded intake, which is the AEM intake that has been rebranded.

Installing an intake is not difficult at all. YOu could as for Nator help too. But if your set on having the dealer do it then buy the part through them and be done with it. Sounds like you were looking for a magical answer but its really simple. If you mod yourself or with Nator, its easy to go back to stock if you are worried about voiding warranty. Doing any mod is a risk that you have to accept, even if the dealer does it. People also cite Magnusson-Moss but unless you are willing to fight, you can cite it all day long and its not worth anything.

Dmurray06 01-15-2012 01:04 PM

Screw the warranty....most everyone buys a MS3/MS6 to have fun while driving. If you arn't satisfied with what is car is stock, mod it. Its way more fun, and Mazda's are not money-pits do your oil changes and keep everything in running order. Enjoy!

uncorked11 01-15-2012 01:56 PM

Read this and be smart when modding the car and you will be fine.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...st-read-99499/

Whiteboy 01-15-2012 04:32 PM

I've been modding my car since day 1 when I bought it and I've yet had to go to the dealer for warrenty work in the 3 years that I've owned my car. Our cars can handle the abuse...mod safely, enjoy outcome!!!

TRex 01-15-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorman46 (Post 1210404)
Here is the link as to what i meant about mazdaspeed stage 1

Mazdaspeed3 Stage 1 Power Pack - 325.3 Ft. lbs & 291 Wheel Horsepower 2007-2011—|—MazdaSpeed3 Staged Upgrades—|—MazdaSpeed 3—|—Mazdaspeed Parts - Mazda Speed Store

The reason i dont just do it myself is because as i said in the original messages if its mazdaspeed and the dealer installs it theyll cover it. I know this because i asked about doing a K&N CAI on my first oil change but he said that could void the warranty but if i got the mazdaspeed CAI and they installed it, it would be covered. Also id rather not do any of the mods myself due to the fact im not very well with a wrench lol

also you are incorrect about mazda covering your warranty claim with a mazdaspeed cai

what they will do is cover claims on the mazdaspeed cai, but i can guarentee if you pay for a mzdaspeed cai and blow your engine up somehow, they won't help you

ask them point blank, if my engine grenades and i have this intake will you cover it, the answer will be no

Raptorman46 01-19-2013 02:12 PM

I didnt have to. By law they have to prove it was the cai thay caused the engine to blow. If something else was wrong with the engine not related to the cai that caused it to blow by law they would have to cover it. They might say no off the bat yes but you could take it to courtand if they had no way to prove it was the cai's failt theyd be required to cover it under the warranty

texasboy21 01-19-2013 06:27 PM

Magnuson Moss - a mod will not void your warranty........

Magnuson?Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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