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BMC 10-18-2014 02:14 PM

octane boosters --- any that work?
 
I read a bunch of stuff here (circa 2011 - couldn't find anything more recent) re octane boosters. At that time, the general concensus was that it was all expensive shite. At best it would do little or nothing and at worst it could hurt your engine. I'm in the midst of a tune and asked if a little more get up and go could be had. The reply was that my crap 91 octane was a severe limitation. I really don't want to go meth at this time and was wondering if there's anything new that can simply be added to a tank of gas to up my octane, without damage?

Scare Dem 10-18-2014 02:22 PM

E85. Pay for the auxilary tuning and be done.

Agent_Orange 10-18-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scare Dem (Post 2729250)
E85. Pay for the auxilary tuning and be done.

Don't think there's much corn juice in canuckistan...

roguemazda 10-18-2014 02:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKxJfXfD6mg

snailD 10-18-2014 02:33 PM

if it caused a real issue, i would personally just buy some high octane gas from vp or soemthing and offset with that. i cant back up any octane boosters

Scare Dem 10-18-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent_Orange (Post 2729253)
Don't think there's much corn juice in canuckistan...

I tried :dunno:

NCspecV81 10-18-2014 03:34 PM

about 2 gallons of heet will boost your octane.

gdawg25 10-18-2014 03:42 PM

Methanol...or methyl hydrate as its called in Canada. Get it at RONA, Canadian tire, or Home depot in the painting section. It's about $10/gal. A gallon of that per fill up and boom, you have just boosted octane.

BMC 10-18-2014 09:41 PM

Thanks for input
 
Scare Dem likely had the right idea (E85 + a tune) but as Agent Orange pointed out, no "corn juice" in this neck of the woods. It appears the harsh reality is that for the present, I'm SOL, other than toting around gallon jugs of meth. On a positive note, the Freektune is getting me the max out of what's available to work with. Thanks Justin. BTW Agent_Orange, "Canukistan" was a new one on me .... I had a big f'n chuckle out of that. Thanks.

Justin@Freektune 10-18-2014 09:49 PM

Torco is about the only one I have seen work well.

BMC 10-18-2014 10:07 PM

Hey Justin
 
Torco runs about $300/5 gal. jug up here. If my calculations are close at all, that means that with my low annual mileage I can get away with half of that per year. I'll likely look into it after the little "big turbo" install later this fall. Thanks for the input.

Tokay444 10-18-2014 10:48 PM

Methyl hydrate. $10 bucks a gallon.
Toluene. $150/5 gallon pail.

gdawg25 10-19-2014 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2729508)
Methyl hydrate. $10 bucks a gallon.
Toluene. $150/5 gallon pail.

10 dollar bucks. What's the exchange rate on that?

SilverDemon 10-19-2014 05:58 AM

RACE GAS | Racing Fuel Concentrate

If my car does not sell, this is what I am using next year instead of Sunoco 260gt

cld12pk2go 10-19-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 2729548)
RACE GAS | Racing Fuel Concentrate

If my car does not sell, this is what I am using next year instead of Sunoco 260gt

Looking to sell? What are you wanting to move on to next?

SilverDemon 10-19-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go (Post 2729556)
Looking to sell? What are you wanting to move on to next?

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...s-sale-177471/

Something V8 and rear wheel drive....

aaronc7 10-19-2014 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverDemon (Post 2729568)
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...s-sale-177471/

Something V8 and rear wheel drive....

Yes, join the dark side!

mituc 10-19-2014 09:54 AM

Some octane boosters may work, but not at the promised levels. I've tried one that did its job. They promised raising the octane number by 2 but I'm not sure if it was 2 or only 1. However, it eliminated some light knock I had without affecting power (actually the engine made a bit more power since I had no more kr).

Yatta 10-19-2014 10:03 AM

Is WMI out of the question for you? You can raise octane and cool charge air at the same time only when needed (under boost) it will make that $10 bottle of methyl hydrate (or just meth/water washer fluid) last a lot longer and effectively control knock when you care about it.


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sheston 10-19-2014 06:07 PM

You can put Meth in the tank (only need 1 or a little more gallons per fill-up) and get the octane boost and knock protection and lower the temps in the cylinders....

Finchee 10-20-2014 07:10 AM

Tested! Royal Purple Max Boost Octane Booster

Would this work for you?

Voltwings 10-20-2014 07:27 AM

Boostane is another up and coming Octane Booster thats been popping up in the mustang world. They compare their product mainly against Torco and, granted it is THEIR website, the ad seems promising.

BOOSTane Octane Engineering

My road race tune is designed for 98 octane, so i think my next track weekend in December (PDS @ TWS @Code Monkey; ?) i'm going to order some of this and try it out. That 98 shit ain't cheap lol.

Justin@Freektune 10-20-2014 07:49 AM

I have specifically tuned a couple focus ST guys on this stuff
, and we were able to pick up about 15hp with adjusting the tune. They live in AZ where only 91 is available and with the extreme temps down there, we were knock limited early on. So I became a believer. lol

Code Monkey 10-20-2014 09:21 AM

I think it is just easier to add 1 gal of meth in tank. :D I have been paying $10 per gallon for 104. :(

mituc 10-20-2014 09:28 AM

Some areas don't have E and in some other areas (like mine) meth can be purchased only if you present a proof of use (usually paint shops and whatever other shops that use it as thinned/diluent can acquire it). The only options left are octane boosters and denatured alcohol.

Voltwings 10-20-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code Monkey (Post 2730382)
I think it is just easier to add 1 gal of meth in tank. :D I have been paying $10 per gallon for 104. :(

I think the pumps at MSR only go up to $9.99 for fuel cost, both 98 and 110 were $9.99. I remember that not being the case at TWS?

Code Monkey 10-20-2014 09:57 AM

The pumps at TWS have no prices on them, you need to ask Denise what they charge. :D

TurbosmartKirstin 10-20-2014 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltwings (Post 2730247)
Boostane is another up and coming Octane Booster thats been popping up in the mustang world. They compare their product mainly against Torco and, granted it is THEIR website, the ad seems promising.

BOOSTane Octane Engineering

My road race tune is designed for 98 octane, so i think my next track weekend in December (PDS @ TWS @Code Monkey; ?) i'm going to order some of this and try it out. That 98 shit ain't cheap lol.

I can back up Boostane. I've run it a handful of times. Picked up a 2 tenths in the 1/8th.

I've talked with the owner/engineer behind it, and it really is more advanced than the average octane booster--it has to do with the way the octane concentrate stays in solution, rather than falling out, like others on the market. I don't recall the specifics, but it's definitely worth your consideration.

ms3steeez 10-20-2014 10:16 AM

Haven't tried it, but heard good things
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/p...el-stabilizer/

razerer 10-21-2014 07:35 PM

I've been seeing some minor knock at WOT I ordered some torco. I'll keep you guys posted on how this stuff work

crankshaft 10-22-2014 06:56 AM

I've used Xylene in the Buick. IIRC, up to 30% with 93 pump gas yields ~100 octane. I was able to bump my boost from 15 to ~21 while running this mix.

Here's some info...
Homebrew Octane Boosters

FYI, I have never done this in the MS3.
The general consensus is that the over the counter octane boosters are worthless.

Voltwings 10-22-2014 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crankshaft (Post 2732320)
I've used Xylene in the Buick. IIRC, up to 30% with 93 pump gas yields ~100 octane. I was able to bump my boost from 15 to ~21 while running this mix.

Here's some info...
Homebrew Octane Boosters

FYI, I have never done this in the MS3.
The general consensus is that the over the counter octane boosters are worthless.

The general consensus is that the stuff you buy from autozone is useless. Torco and some of the bigger name ones are far too common, and have been around far too long, to be "worthless" i feel.

sienna2002 10-22-2014 09:17 AM

Octane Booster
 
Hi I am driving Mazdaspeed3 2009 and your question was the same I am before. I tried to experiment how to boost my car without using any gadgets, my option is to used the High Octane Booster, this is usually what I am using for my cars not Turbo Engine and it's really worked but the outcome results for my Turbo Engine in my Mazdaspeed3 was missed up.

The results after putting that High Octane Booster to my Gas tank the normal engine run was issued and Engine Check. I brought my car to the Mazda mechanic specialist and the problem was my engine sensor damaged, I let them changed I I spent $120.00

gdawg25 10-22-2014 11:57 AM

Those pesky engine sensors...


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