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superdave2335 09-12-2013 04:47 PM

Please enlighten me
 
So beginning of this year a guy up in Fairbanks Alaska was just finishing the cpe 2.4l build on his pu. Rocking a single scroll gtx35, jmf v2 mani.

Well get this. I get a call from a guy today stating it made 420whp on the base tune with 20psi. Oh ya and it was on 90oct pump gas. Someone please wake me the fuck up.

What are some solid numbers from bt guy on pump gas so I can gauge about where this guy is at because 420 seems like an awful lot of bullshit to me.

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helmetface 09-12-2013 04:49 PM

No other fueling?

Complete bullshit.

Agent_Orange 09-12-2013 04:50 PM

90 octane?? :bsflag:

superdave2335 09-12-2013 04:54 PM

The way I'm seeing this shop is just how we seen brentuning. They are sandbagging the fuck out of this guy. Pisses me off. I build my shit at home and self tune and I know these fhegs aren't making them numbers. This is the first time the shop has tuned a speed3 as well might I add.

I sent the shop a message asking for dyno sheet


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Sid3wayS 09-12-2013 04:55 PM

Isnt the jmf v2 for port injection?
If he's rocking that bt and port injection 420 I dont think is totaly out of question.

superdave2335 09-12-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid3wayS (Post 2252827)
Isnt the jmf v2 for port injection?
If he's rocking that bt and port injection 420 I dont think is totaly out of question.

They have the mani but no PI setup for it yet. Shit is plugged right now. And to be honest I think his is the one set up for port meth. Either way this was stock fuel system with no added fueling on 90 oct as they claim

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Voltron 09-12-2013 10:51 PM

@njspeed3 made 580 on 93 2 weeks ago.

Koke382 09-12-2013 10:53 PM

Dont u just hate when people inflate numbers? Lol or when they fuck u over n lie to you like that lol

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Boosted Beluga 09-12-2013 11:46 PM

How'd they get the motor to 2.4L?

2.5L crank with 2.3 rods?

BigRedSpecial 09-13-2013 07:02 AM

Isn't the CPe block sleeved for larger bore?

KusteLokal 09-13-2013 07:14 AM

That was with 6th port Teddy, these guys are claiming no extra fuel.

superdave2335 09-13-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosten Ya(josh) (Post 2253318)
How'd they get the motor to 2.4L?

2.5L crank with 2.3 rods?

It's that cpe block. 2.4 or not I just can't see them making that much those liars!

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Voltron 09-13-2013 08:26 AM

Tell this guy to take it to the track. Trap speeds don't lie.

Roddiy 09-13-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdave2335 (Post 2253538)
It's that cpe block. 2.4 or not I just can't see them making that much those liars!

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Did you ask them specifically about the fueling? and what Dyno did they use?






inb4(insertnamehere) eats penises

Lex 09-13-2013 10:18 AM

Once you really open up the flow on the motor, increase the bore, and throw a large hotside turbo on there the rules change a bit.

It would be nice to see some more details on this build.

superdave2335 09-13-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Roddiy (Post 2253720)

Did you ask them specifically about the fueling? and what Dyno did they use?

inb4(insertnamehere) eats penises

I live in same town. They running 90oct fuel. That's all we got up here. They have a meth kit but wether its used or not is unknown. I asked the shop for a dyno sheet and they responded with this.



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What a crock of shit. Dudes gonna beat around the bush I can feel it. The owner of the car dosent know shit about it so I'm sure they just brentuning his shit.

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superdave2335 09-13-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 2253761)
Once you really open up the flow on the motor, increase the bore, and throw a large hotside turbo on there the rules change a bit.

It would be nice to see some more details on this build.

He is running the cpe exh mani (blocked off ewg) running an iwg gtx35 with the 5 bolt hotside. Not too special of a setup. He's using a jmf mani with no aux fueling other than meth kit (not sure if its pre tb or not) and a cpe 3" intake. Other than that his shit is just like most other built cars. Lol

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superdave2335 09-13-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltron Locos (Post 2253591)
Tell this guy to take it to the track. Trap speeds don't lie.

He's scurred to race the home tuned genwon wiff his PU.... Figures.



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BigRedSpecial 09-13-2013 10:59 AM

You can't blame him for not wanting to race before he gets his drag axles :dance:

Roddiy 09-13-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdave2335 (Post 2253765)
I live in same town. They running 90oct fuel. That's all we got up here. They have a meth kit but wether its used or not is unknown. I asked the shop for a dyno sheet and they responded with this.



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What a crock of shit. Dudes gonna beat around the bush I can feel it. The owner of the car dosent know shit about it so I'm sure they just brentuning his shit.

sent from the igloo.




With Meth it's plausbile, if they use it for fuel.

superdave2335 09-13-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddiy (Post 2253833)

With Meth it's plausbile, if they use it for fuel.

Yes it is plausible but remember this is their BASE LINE RUN! First revision hitting 420 at 20psi?!?! I think not. Especially on low timing.

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superdave2335 09-13-2013 03:01 PM

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Here is the supposed dyno printout.



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