Is the Pro-Tuning Lab exhaust decent?
 

First time MS3 owner here.
I Installed the JBR SRI and am very happy with it.

Now it's time for the exhaust and was blown away by the systems that I'm familiar with's pricing !!

Borla is my first choice, but as I researched I found that all the ebay systems (Speed Daddy, Pro-Tuning) look like they are produced by the same manufacturer. They sound decent and are stainless steel and cat-back.

Is it worth the difference going with one of these over the Borla? The Borla would also be axle back.

Thanks for any feedback.

Get an AP and internals instead.

Definitely get a Internals and AP and possibly a RMM.

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Internals and AP hold a higher priority. In regards to exhaust it boils down to brand preference. I wouldn't waste money on axel back, unless you are just after sound.

Never heard of this exhaust, just found it... shit is cheap as fuck, will probably not fit right, rattle, and rust apart. You get what you pay for.
If you want faster, search and learn here. If you want loud cheap and shitty go to ebay

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Thanks for the feedback.

I've always liked the Borla and guess that's what I'll go with.

Exhaust doesn't do much or anything other than make the car loud.

Get internals/AP first. Downpipe/test pipe will get you a little more sound without breaking the bank and will get you a good amount of power.

Just watch the for sale sections for a used exhaust. I got my UR for 500 and it damn sure sounds better than eBay.

Looking at your user name, I assume you're in one of the Carolinas. Plenty of speeds over there.

@Carolinaspeed3; get up with some of the locals in Raleigh. We'll get you started down the right mod path

If there are any Raleigh area clubs w/meets, please click me the info. I'd really like to start autocrossing in my area. Sanford is my location.

I am just going for a better exhaust note, which is why the Borla axle back would suffice.

How much difference is there in exhaust note with just the test pipe install? It's hard to really tell on the youtube clips.

It's slightly deeper. My friends noticed a difference more than I did.

Stock exhaust with racepipe sounds very good. I had that setup for a while and liked it a lot. I got the magnaflow for super cheap otherwise I would still have stock CBE.

You want to start autox 'ing, and think an axle back is a better choice because of sound, instead of internals and ap to help the overall response of the car.

Waste of $600 imo.

I didn't say that an axle back is a better choice because of sound, only that I just wanted to improve the sound. Replacing everything from the turbo back is the best choice for sound.

You don't need more engine performance for autocrossing, that would be suspension and tires.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll just install the test pipe and see how it sounds.

Just making sure you know you can't just remove the 2nd cat and not tune the car or have proper fueling...
Internals and access port are hard priorities on these cars

No I wasn't aware of this.

The Corksport site denotes that you can do the TP & SRI without having to tune.

This is why I sourced this forum though and appreciate you letting me know. Guess I'll just do the axleback for now. I'll have to wait on the AP with the cost.

I've been modding Mustangs forever and WOW the parts prices for the MS3 are much higher. My last tuner (SCT Xcal3 was only $ 379. & a full catback Flow system was only $ 350..)

How are the canned tunes with the AP ? They were only fair with the SCT software. Is my best bet a dyno tune, with revamping the fuel pump at the same time ?

If you want a price check, look at mods for gti's, audis, or bimmers.

Off the shelf maps from Cobb up the boost a little but no timing gains, are otherwise conservative. Best bet is to get an e-tune or dyno tune if you want to spend the extra cash.
Northeasterners pretty much default to freektune.com but there are many others to choose from. Hit up your local nator gang like others have suggested.

Just buy a used v2..they're only like 300-350 used...I bought one from a local and it works great. monitoring while racing especially with a short ram would be my top priority.

I appreciate all the feedback from you guys. I LOVE the 2.3 blown platform and don't want to screw it up.

Have a great Labor day!!

The companies that develop the tuners (Cobb) have to amortize their development costs over the hardware they sell. Reverse engineering the ECU takes time and money.

There's way more Mustangs out there than Speed3's, so the tuners can amortize their development costs over a larger number of units. Hence the hardware is cheaper.

Copy that.

I'm going to look at it that the mileage differences will offset the higher prices! And lest we forget that a wife's happiness also offsets prices !

Having an AP and fuel pump internals will help off set the price of a blown engine if you start doing exhaust mods. Its much cheaper in the long run.

Dont forget about the OTS+ tunes offered by the etuners. If youre like me with only a couple flow mods, the OTS+ tune is perfect until youre ready for a full tune.

It only costs about 50 bucks for one, and it's a tune based on your specific mods. I personally have the Stratified OTS+ tune on my car. It's way better and much safer than the Cobb OTS tunes.

Definitely a solid investment to get the AP and internals when you can, then you can start slapping on more flow mods without worrying about leaning out at WOT. When you get to where u wanna be modwise, then you can get a full tune and really dial it in with each revision.



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Thanks for the info on the tunes. I'll do the RMM this week and AP next with the tune you recommend.

The AP will also substantially increase your highway fuel economy, so over time (if you can stay out of the gas), you'll make your money back. Mine paid for itself in 6 months with the amount of highway driving I was doing at the time.

Nice to know.

With my past SCT tuning experience I always saw a mileage increase equating to a leaner A/F (as long as you didn't have any detonation). Does datalogging show the aftermarket tunes with the AP much leaner? Would it be ill advised to use the A/P and custom tune, with having only the SRI mod before doing the FP internals ?

If you wanted to change things up to take advantage of an intake without internals, I would recommend just using one of the cobb ots options. You won't get much out of just and SRI and will regret not just saving the money to get the internals and other go fast bits that you will inevitably want...

A little late to this, but if you want your exhaust to sound slightly better go get a test pipe, then delete the resonator. That's all I have done to mine, and I like it. It also cost me less than 70 bucks. If you'd like, I could link a few Youtube videos of what my exhaust sounds like.

I installed the Borla axleback on Friday. Love it. Much different sound than what I expected.

It'll be around a grand to do the A/P and internals which I'll have to cover a little later. In the meantime I have the intake/exhaust addressed without worrying about going lean.

Car runs great and sounds good. I'll also do the test pipe with the A/P.