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305ms3 08-25-2011 09:14 PM

rpms below 3k on high gear questions
 
i recently bought a new 2011 ms3 and this is also my first turbo car, i have been reading that theres some apparent problems whenever you are in 5th gear or 6th gear and being under 3k rpms.

Can someone shed some light on this, i drive about 15miles to work on highways and this is very concerning to me.

sellers 08-25-2011 09:21 PM

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dizzydtrain 08-25-2011 09:21 PM

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Blackrider 08-25-2011 09:39 PM

Welcome, this site will provide you with invaluable information about your Speed3 over the years your own it, so feel free to donate!

Its really not a Mazdaspeed specific rule, high load in high gears on any powertrain isn't advisable. There have been members who have gone Zoom Zoom Boom by doing it, but most of them have been modded to a degree.

There are tones of threads discussing this very thing, search around a bit and you'll find more info.

08.5MS3 08-25-2011 09:41 PM

If you're cruising you have nothing to worry about. Don't go WOT though until upwards of around 3,000. Most likely, nothing will happen if you do though. Most blow because of bad tunes.

dizzin9 08-25-2011 11:11 PM

how bout this, don't ever floor it on 5th and 6th.

08.5MS3 08-26-2011 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzin9 (Post 1011151)
how bout this, don't ever floor it on 5th and 6th.

Eh, I think most people here are pussies sometimes! If I'm cruising on the highway at 70 (in 6th) and I want to pass, I'll downshift and then go WOT. 4th would be too low. I like our 5th gear. But that's just me. 6th is a different beast, that bitch is for gas saving.

Don't get me wrong here, anything above 2nd I'll build up boost then go WOT. I never try to go nuts with anything below 3,000; except for 1 & 2.

You need to form a relationship with her. Just don't fuck her over. She doesn't like that.

BLK_MS3 08-26-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzin9 (Post 1011151)
how bout this, don't ever floor it on 5th and 6th.

Too general, if you are at higher RPM's WOT in 5th and 6th is fine.

More like this, OP don't ever floor it in 5th or 6th below about 3000 RPM's. You will gain nothing anyway as you will be off boost until around 3000 RPM's anyway....

zatara 08-26-2011 09:08 AM

Do this experiment the next time you're on an on ramp to the highway. Get into 5th or 6th gear, and make sure the car is around 1500 RPM or so, now, floor it. What happens? Does the car go Zoom-Zoom, or does the car go Pause-Pause-Pause-Pause, and then Zoom-Zoom?

Also, try riding a geared bike, and go from a stand still in the highest possible gear. Now do the same thing from a stand still in a low gear...which is easier on your legs? The same applies to your cars engine.

Elusivellama 08-26-2011 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zatara (Post 1011583)
Do this experiment the next time you're on an on ramp to the highway. Get into 5th or 6th gear, and make sure the car is around 1500 RPM or so, now, floor it. What happens? Does the car go Zoom-Zoom, or does the car go Pause-Pause-Pause-Pause, and then Zoom-Zoom?

Also, try riding a geared bike, and go from a stand still in the highest possible gear. Now do the same thing from a stand still in a low gear...which is easier on your legs? The same applies to your cars engine.

Exactly.

Long story short, don't lug the engine with unnecessary strain. Once you get a feel for your car, you'll be able to predict when flooring the pedal will result in the engine straining to catch up. The e-throttle is nice this way, engineers can program the ECU to react to dumbass situations like this.

Solution: downshift before going zoom.

adlpb 08-26-2011 09:13 AM

Read this, brownie
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...daspeed-77762/

2k4_8 08-26-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 (Post 1011275)
Eh, I think most people here are pussies sometimes! If I'm cruising on the highway at 70 (in 6th) and I want to pass, I'll downshift and then go WOT. 4th would be too low. I like our 5th gear. But that's just me. 6th is a different beast, that bitch is for saving money on coffee cuz 140 at 5:30 am will wake your ass up.

Don't get me wrong here, anything above 2nd I'll build up boost then go WOT. I never try to go nuts with anything below 3,000; except for 1 & 2.

You need to form a relationship with her. Just don't fuck her over. She doesn't like that.

lol, fixed

pingaboo 08-27-2011 04:14 AM

i guess the same reason holds true if you start with second gear? i don't usually do this but sometime when the car is going really slow, i don't shift to first to start moving, unless the car is completely stopped.

08.5MS3 08-27-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingaboo (Post 1012894)
i guess the same reason holds true if you start with second gear? i don't usually do this but sometime when the car is going really slow, i don't shift to first to start moving, unless the car is completely stopped.

Maybe to an extent. Boost is limited in 1 and 2, so chances of blowing are pretty slim. Various other factors account for the limitation (and to a greater extent, in the others gears as well), one off the top of my head is steering angle.

Of course, it's a little difficult to dump the clutch in 2. But I don't recommend doing that either way for daily driving. Ricer mod, for the win!


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