Screwed up TIP install please help
 

When I removed the stock TIP I did not notice the small hose coming from the pipe close to the turbo into some block. I think its part if the bypass system.

Anyway the little nipple broke off inside of the hose. Whatv are my options for repair and a quick fix to drive safely until I get it fixed?


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that happened to me just use pliers and work out that piece its very easy to do and then hook it back up and make sure that tip clamp at the turbo is on tight

Problem is the nipple and small extra bit off plastic brome off with it. I do t think there is anyway to hook it back up.

That box is your boost control solenoid. Did the nipple break off the solenoid or the inlet pipe? If you broke it off the solenoid DO NOT drive the car. You will have no way to control how much boost is built and will blow your motor. Happened to a fellow pu owner, his buddy helped with the install then super glue that nipple back on without telling him. Clogging it in the process causing him to over boost and port his block with a piston rod. If it is the nipple on the turbo inlet pipe same deal, you could try to super glue it just fucking ensure you dont clog that nipple.

Yeah it broke off the selonoid. Gluing the nipple back on wont woek so it looks like ill have to get a new selenoid, hope they arent expensive. Is it safe to assume that staying out of boost will be safe to drive while I wait on a part?

I'm going to sleep on this. If I can find the part locally tomorrow I will just replace it. If I can't find it I will order a new one and wait for it to arrive. Are there any benefits to getting the COBB 3 port solenoid? Would it in any way cause problems with the factory or off the shelf tunes?

Happened to me 2 years ago, I cut off the end of the solonoid and slid the hose over it and zip tied it, has held 20-22 psi like a champ for 2 years...just sayin, also a new 3 port does nothing but help and is your best option

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The solenoid should only cost around 75 bucks I have done this once and only one and it was on a customers car my lesson was learned that day

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Here's the way I look at things: I don't make enough money in a day to replace a vented block. Therefor, I'm not taking the risk, and will wait until I can get a replacement part.

This is why you should read the how-to on this site before doing anything you are uncomfortable. He even broke the same thing on his install with pics that say quote "don't fucking do this". But as said before, you will blow your engine if you run without replacing it. Rather than waste a bunch of money on a replacement stock one, you could spend a bit more on an aftermarket EBCS. Here's one! Grimmspeed EBCS Electronic Boost Control Solenoid Mazdaspeed 3 6 MS3 MS6

Or this new product from your friends at Stratified here: Mazda 3 Port Electronic Boost Control Valve [MAZ 3P EBCV (0100-0005.1)] - $85.00CAD : Stratified Automotive Controls

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I felt pretty stupid last night when I broke it, but it's nice to see that I'm not the only one that's done it. I live close to COBB surgeline when they open I'm going to call them and see if they have any solenoids in stock. If they don't I'll order one have the wife drive me to and from work this week.

For those of you with aftermarket solenoid blocks where did you mount them? It doesn't look like they will fit in the stock location.

battery box

I don't want to brownie out or anything but I'm trying to figure out what the Cobb BCS does? Does it only replace you factory unit?

smoothes out boost and holds it longer/better. search

Yes. It will control you boost better and supposidly it will spool up your turbo 10% faster. (At least that is what they say.) I think I spool up quicker but it could be a placebo. Don't buy OEM. Get a Grimmspeed or Cobb. They have steel nipples that will not break.

Embarassing to say I had broke mine also. I knew I had to be careful but the damn hose seemed to be fused on the nipple and after trying to get the hose off for a few minutes the nipple just pulled up off the solenoid.

I am not saying to do this but I drove my car for 2 days without it hooked up. I drove it easy for those two days though. I thought I read somewhere that if it is not hooked up it will default to 12lbs max. (Can anyone confirm or deny this?) Maybe when the mentioned above person said his friend blew his motor he had the port on the BCS blocked with super glue.

If you have the Cobb AP you could flash it to economy mode to disable the boost controller until you get they new BCS.

Thanks man, maybe down the road ill pick one up.

You *CAN* drive the car, just be very nice about it and keep the boost low. Mazda dealership should have them or be able to get them in quickly, I think mine got there the next day....

Broke mine during NATOR install and NATOR socal JB welded that fucker FTMFW! Still holds 2 years later lol

Just got off the phone with cobb and they have them in stock. I'm on my way out the door now to pick it up.

Like everyone said, you weren't the first and you won't be the last. Even those of us that know to be careful of the solenoid, still sometimes break it.


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Yeah, I seend it. Needed a longer hose, so instead of pulling at it, I got a razor knife and just cut a slit in it and pulled it off.

Now you learned the hard way to be uber careful when in new territory.

I read so many horror stories and watched all the posted videos about the install and how much they stress about how easily that nipple breaks off that it made my nipples hurt. No regrets about paying Cobb SoCal to do the install. They don't want to have to giving away free EBCS's so even they razor blade the hose and just replace it. Sorry kid, I know you probably nearly puked when you felt it snap.
Say, to anyone here who has gotten a "Straified Tune" (maybe your seeing this Lex)...what does a Guardian Angel do that the EBCS doesn't? I assume it let's you dial in your max boost, but that can be done in ATR. So...what's it for? Anyone?

IIRC, GA protects when you use VTA BOV from over boost. @Lex also sells an EBCS now like the Grimmspeed.


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Isn't it easier to remove the stock BCS (only 1 nut holding it onto the snail) to remove the hoses?

Sounds like it would be.

Too much of a noob to know why venting to atmosphere could cause over boost. But thanks for letting me know.

GA offers boost protection for overboosting in any situation by opening the wastegate fully once you cross the boost threshold; this is much nicer than fuel cut. It also alleviates the rich condition on shifting, leaking at idle and poor driveability when running VTA. It can also be used as a safeguard for WMI injection or other auxiliary controller. That's a lot of stuff for the money. Mine is in the mail as we speak. It is a cheap piece of mind.

Edit: clarifying now that I'm not trying to type on my phone

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Running a vta bov doesn't cause overboost
.... My boy is running an ssqv vta and he holds 17 psi


OP do yourself a favor and invest in a 3port... I'm ordering mine tomorrow :werd:

The ga helps your motor from fail. Period. Many an issue that thing has saved my arse

You guys are getting a retune with the 3 port, right? Or are you running it in interupt mode till a tune can be done.

stock turbo ...running it in 2 port mode

So I the new hpfp internals, TIP, SRI, and boost solenoid are installed and all is well. I havent done any logs yet but I did some pulls and watched the live data. Fuel pressure is around 1700 to 1800 kr is 0.

My question is that I know I need a tune after installing the boost solenoid in 3 port mode and I will be doing that soon. But I did 3 pulls watching boost and it never went higher than 16 psi. What is the reason for getting a tune after installing one of these?

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Did you see my post? @Caveman4684; Why would you do pulls without researching?

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...8/#post1496493

No I did not see an earlier post from you. I read that thread but I still dont quite understand what the negative effects are of running this without a tune. Sounds like it has something to do with wgdc? Idk im a noob at tuning stuff.

I'm going to get a hold of Rich tomorrow and start my etune.

Talked to Rich on the phone today, he said as long as I'm not seeing boost spikes then I should be safe. Regardless I am currently in the process of having him tune my car :bigok:

Didn't read to see if you solved your problem so sorry for posting if you did. This happend to me and i just cut the hose shorter from where the nipple was broken off inside and it still reached the new TIP.

OP broke the nipple off the solenoid - not the TIP.

Lesson of day is: Hose is cheap, solenoid not.