We had a guy with a forester at one of our last SCCA AUTOX events and I swear to god that thing almost tipped over a half dozen times lol That said, it was surprisingly quick.

And stop crying about the shit everyone is giving you...how about you go on a subaru forum and tell them you are thinking of buying an EVO and see their response. I guarentee it will be no different than what you got here.

[QUOTE=Deldran;1867562]Listen dude this place has always been like this. Ask a dumb question get flammed. You came into a mazdaspeed forum asking what car to buy what answer did you expect?

What I expected was an intelligent answer from some people that probably test drove a few different cars and could give me their good points and bad as opposed to other cars on the market before I went and used my fuel and time to learn the same thing. That is what you call research and if your someone who cant answer a simple request from a new person to the MS3 without trashing them than you have serious social and mental problems. Several people on this forum showed some respect and gave valuable info some of which lead me to buy a Speed. You on the other hand are no help or use to me so please stfu.
I think this thread is played out as is the flaming. Thanks again to the guys with good info.

[quote=voodoolord;1867590]Again you are shooting off about how shits done around here. It is this way for good reason if you stick around long enough to go to a nator meet u will understand why

And your excuse is lame. The only good way to pick a car is to go test drive the choices you narrowed down. Which you obviously did and you picked the right car. So you got your answer the good old fashioned way and it wasn't spoon fed to you. Its amazing what a little of your own research can do

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They lost to the Chargers, just accept it.

This may help

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-t-like-53686/

Bah Mazdaboy I was hoping to end this thread. You gave me some good info and were pretty cool and I appreciate that. Really if I took this question to forester.org I would get real honest replies. Might be a mixed bag on nasioc but Im betting alot more mature analysis that "your a faggot". I might do that just to prove a point but I dont think the "point" would even be noticed by the people who would learn from it. Its pretty funny how many PM's ive gotten in the last few days from people apologizing for the behavior here and giving there honest opinions. Its too bad that they feel they need to PM me and apologize for the immaturity of their fellow members. Makes you think huh?

I take the good with the bad. I get a lot of shit on here as well, but the information I get is well worth it. If you want a calmer forum check out mazda3forums.com, they have some knowledgeable people on that site as well. Isn't that right @Raider;? :wink:

Thats a great resource. Thanks.

Ive been a Raiders fan for over 30 years. Im used to it.

Got it. Theres nothing wrong with trying to make something better than when you found it though. Thanks again for your input.

Well as long as your honest with yourself (:

Mazda3forums is a barren wasteland of old data and insufficient info. You will find more in the VIP and knowledgebase here than there.

Estimate given in the car computer is usually 4-5MPG optimistic. If she does a hand-calc when she fills up it will be around 23.

Listen, you're probably including me in this comment, but my comments didn't come from nowhere. I started a similar thread back when I joined trying to decide between a GTI, WRX, and MS3. I got the shit beat out of me. And I learned not to ask questions to which the answers are easily found. But I fought through the early crap and now I feel like I'm a member who can contribute and who has earned the friendship and respect of a lot of members. And you know why? Because I didn't bitch.

That information was provided, and also exists in countless other thread. It was 50% the question, and 50% the fact that it had been asked a thousand fucking times (including by me, as I said above). If your boss gives you something to do, are you going to turn around and ask him to do it for you, or are you going to do some research and see how you should approach first so you don't seem like a lazy noob? Same premise here. Repeat threads clutter the system and make finding the good information you so desperately seek very difficult.

No, this site has a lot of fucked up people who hide behind their online personas, but that's half the battle in being part of an online community. People can be whoever they want to be and unless you can fight back a bit and show you're not going to be offended or intimidated, you've got no shot. I've met many of my fellow members in person and when you realize that 95% of the people on here are genuinely nice, helpful people who are trying to have a bit of fun at your expense, it makes this whole place worth it.

Basically, stop bitching about how you're being treated, and just play along. It'll be easier for you. Once you've been around here a few months, you'll very quickly realize how tempting it will be for you to treat the new members (especially the ones with silly questions) the same way you've "been treated" here. You're going to get to the point where the inane "OMG Help!" threads get repetitive and stupidly unnecessary.

Have fun, sling shit at noobs and the silly questions (while still maintaining an air of carelessness and humor) and you'll fit in fine. Trying to change the dynamic here is only going to lead to your frustration and to other members exploiting your sensitivity.

With all due respect, either play along, or get out.

TIS

Honestly Ive been trying to wind this thread down in the last couple of posts. This will be forgotten an a few days and we all can move on. I was just hoping something good would come out of it in the end. Im sorry you got nailed when you were looking for advice on your car. If it was me I would be like several of the other members here and try to give advice without being a dick. In the future I will give advice without being a dick. If some noob comes on and says hey man I just bought a MS3, what turbo do I have? Then I can understand a little exasperated flamage. Otherwise what harm does it do anyone to be helpful without insulting someone? Again it comes down to common decency which is sorely lacking in our younger culture. Im sure Im beating a dead horse here so Ill shut up and hope this thread maybe makes someone think twice before being an asshole to someone just for asking a question. Believe me I can dish it as well as take it but I dont resort to calling people names or justifying bad behavior with anothers bad behavior.


And after all that I go up and see someone asking how to make their turbo louder. I didnt say a word lol.

Lol the average age on this forum is alot higher than you think. Not that many young people. This thread won't end until you stop trying to change the way we are

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nothing said or done here will make any of us think twice before being an asshole. it's almost insulting that you think you're gonna change anyone here. now excuse me, i have a warm bowl of oatmeal to go back to.

Dude, you can totally post that they can make it louder by eating a bowl of dicks like @faeker; does. His safe word is "oatmeal".

Its really dependent on the kind of dick. Can't be healthy ones. Diseased ones make me scream louder.

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Hahaha, you see????? The temptation to be sarcastic starts to take hold and pretty soon you're fed up with those kinds of threads!!!!!!!

I told my girlfriend her safe word is "Fuck me harder." After 3.5 years, you'd think she'd have realized the loophole there...

Yep, our sex life got so much better once I got the herpes.

TIS

I have a thread in Anything goes for you then.

If you really want this thread to die, let me give you some advice and I mean this in the nicest way possible.


SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD!

Naw, I can help this thread die.