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sharkyboost 08-08-2013 10:36 PM

Somethings wrong..
 
Decided to go into work late and head to the local dragstrip to make a pass in my recently purchased genpu. I get there and first pass I have some issues with grinding in 2nd and 3rd, so I adjust the throw plate and hit it again. I was running 16-17 consistantly....

I know that I'm not the greatest driver period, hell I'm not even mediocre. But I'm not bad enough to barely hang with a fucking impala. It just didn't seem to run very strong and my tires wasn't even barking in 1st or going into second. Boost gauge(stock) was reading 15 psi. Idk, any ideas?

rt-.687
60-2.561
330-7.065
1/8-10.642
mph-70.72
1000- 13.685
1/4- 16.207
mph-89.89
This was my best time of the night, I used to run low 14s in an srt4 here. I'm guessing elevation is around 1800 or so.

Side note, met a local from the forum. Horrible with names so I dont remember, but he had a very nice pu. Good guy ask well.

mr.speedy3 08-08-2013 11:11 PM

1. Donate, get a VIP, and stop being a fucking Brownie. :crucified:
2. Get an AP, and a tune sure that'll help a tad, plus who doesn't love FFS?
3. Did you run 14s on a stock SRT4?
4. These cars are mod hungry, mod the fuck up and get into 12's.
5. Did I mention VIP, AP and tune? Do that.
6. Miles on the Pu?
7. Is the Pu stock?


There are tons of factors, driver mod being the best of them all.

SarcasticOne 08-08-2013 11:24 PM

Mph seems way down...

[R]usty 08-08-2013 11:34 PM

It's because you're driving a mazda 3 not a speed 3. :bigok:

sharkyboost 08-08-2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.speedy3 (Post 2203014)
1. Donate, get a VIP, and stop being a fucking Brownie. :crucified:
2. Get an AP, and a tune sure that'll help a tad, plus who doesn't love FFS?
3. Did you run 14s on a stock SRT4?
4. These cars are mod hungry, mod the fuck up and get into 12's.
5. Did I mention VIP, AP and tune? Do that.
6. Miles on the Pu?
7. Is the Pu stock?


There are tons of factors, driver mod being the best of them all.

1. I keep putting my donation off, will donate for the sake of my hatred for virtual nail in hands/feet. Sixish tomorrow

2. Will get the AP soon, getting internals this week. Figured safety first. Would grab the both but my boogers aren't made of Au. unfortunately.

3. The srt. was a stage 1 but I was rather comfortable with it. That was my last sports car and was 3-4 years ago?
4-7. Doing mods slowly but surely. I have a jbr88 and stp right now. Internals thenap,the intake/tip then dp(not double penetration) then fmic and somewhere a ricey fucking bov, because I like em. Car is 11 genpu with 36xxx on the ticker

8. <3 very little homo

mr.speedy3 08-08-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2203036)
1. I keep putting my donation off, will donate for the sake of my hatred for virtual nail in hands/feet. Sixish tomorrow

2. Will get the AP soon, getting internals this week. Figured safety first. Would grab the both but my boogers aren't made of Au. unfortunately.

3. The srt. was a stage 1 but I was rather comfortable with it. That was my last sports car and was 3-4 years ago?
4-7. Doing mods slowly but surely. I have a jbr88 and stp right now. Internals thenap,the intake/tip then dp(not double penetration) then fmic and somewhere a ricey fucking bov, because I like em. Car is 11 genpu with 36xxx on the ticker

8. <3 very little homo

2nd time owner? Once you open the HPFP to install the new ones, check for black gunk. Maybe the previous owner was a mod whore like me. :poke:

sharkyboost 08-08-2013 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SarcasticOne (Post 2203023)
Mph seems way down...

That's what I thought, as I was digging through the 1/4 slips on here.Like I said, it just seemed weak..
Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2203031)
It's because you're driving a mazda 3 not a speed 3. :bigok:

I honestly feel like that's what it is.

sharkyboost 08-09-2013 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.speedy3 (Post 2203046)
2nd time owner? Once you open the HPFP to install the new ones, check for black gunk. Maybe the previous owner was a mod whore like me. :poke:

This black gunk would signify once upon a time aftermarket internal I'm guessing?

mr.speedy3 08-09-2013 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2203054)
This black gunk would signify once upon a time aftermarket internal I'm guessing?

It's a good chance, at low miles like that. If there was any E85 in the car, around 50%, then sure enough there should be some black gunk in there, which is bad of course. Also check for small signs, like around the OBDII port, check for scratches from the AP cord. Look around the engine (BOV,Intake,TMIC cover) for bolts that looked "worked on".

sharkyboost 08-09-2013 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.speedy3 (Post 2203064)
It's a good chance, at low miles like that. If there was any E85 in the car, around 50%, then sure enough there should be some black gunk in there, which is bad of course. Also check for small signs, like around the OBDII port, check for scratches from the AP cord. Look around the engine (BOV,Intake,TMIC cover) for bolts that looked "worked on".

Believe it or not I followed the new buyer thread. No scratches around the port, no mismatched bolts.. Something isn't right with the damn thing though. Knowing my luck its totally fucked. Or my driving is just awful

mr.speedy3 08-09-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2203074)
Believe it or not I followed the new buyer thread. No scratches around the port, no mismatched bolts.. Something isn't right with the damn thing though. Knowing my luck its totally fucked. Or my driving is just awful

Get an AP and log, I'd do that first, then internals.

Mike@Stratified 08-09-2013 04:27 AM

You could always do a compression check if you are really concerned.

chaser27 08-09-2013 06:17 AM

I know somewhat how you feel, the journalist were somehow getting like 14.1 quarter times with a stock car. My guess is you were winding the RPM's out, granny shifting and either bogging down in first when you launched or spinning like crazy. I don't have my slips with me, but I was hitting like 15.1 or so at 97 I think.

CornBread 08-09-2013 08:01 AM

remember stock tune limits boost in 1-3 gear for the people who complained about tq steer

crankshaft 08-09-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CornBread (Post 2203413)
remember stock tune limits boost in 1-3 gear for the people who complained about ridiculous lack of traction

fixed


And is boost limited in 3rd?

El_Diablo 08-09-2013 10:16 AM

No, this is...
Quote:

Originally Posted by CornBread (Post 2203413)
remember stock tune limits boost in 1-3 gear for the people who are pussies

*Fixed*

doctavus 08-09-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2202988)
Decided to go into work late and head to the local dragstrip to make a pass in my recently purchased genpu. I get there and first pass I have some issues with grinding in 2nd and 3rd, so I adjust the throw plate and hit it again. I was running 16-17 consistantly....

I know that I'm not the greatest driver period, hell I'm not even mediocre. But I'm not bad enough to barely hang with a fucking impala. It just didn't seem to run very strong and my tires wasn't even barking in 1st or going into second. Boost gauge(stock) was reading 15 psi. Idk, any ideas?

rt-.687
60-2.561
330-7.065
1/8-10.642
mph-70.72
1000- 13.685
1/4- 16.207
mph-89.89
This was my best time of the night, I used to run low 14s in an srt4 here. I'm guessing elevation is around 1800 or so.

Side note, met a local from the forum. Horrible with names so I dont remember, but he had a very nice pu. Good guy ask well.

Yeah well boost limited or not, that's not right.

Trap at least should be higher and should be somewhere in the 15's if you suck at driving.

865ms3 08-09-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2202988)
Decided to go into work late and head to the local dragstrip to make a pass in my recently purchased genpu. I get there and first pass I have some issues with grinding in 2nd and 3rd, so I adjust the throw plate and hit it again. I was running 16-17 consistantly....

I know that I'm not the greatest driver period, hell I'm not even mediocre. But I'm not bad enough to barely hang with a fucking impala. It just didn't seem to run very strong and my tires wasn't even barking in 1st or going into second. Boost gauge(stock) was reading 15 psi. Idk, any ideas?

rt-.687
60-2.561
330-7.065
1/8-10.642
mph-70.72
1000- 13.685
1/4- 16.207
mph-89.89
This was my best time of the night, I used to run low 14s in an srt4 here. I'm guessing elevation is around 1800 or so.

Side note, met a local from the forum. Horrible with names so I dont remember, but he had a very nice pu. Good guy ask well.

local guy was CJ. hes one of our nator tn/ky guys. i talked to him last night. ive got an install day at my house in knoxville next weekend if you want to really see how this community operates :). we can help you check out a few things too if you need a hand.
@ThaKing;

sharkyboost 08-09-2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaser27 (Post 2203226)
I know somewhat how you feel, the journalist were somehow getting like 14.1 quarter times with a stock car. My guess is you were winding the RPM's out, granny shifting and either bogging down in first when you launched or spinning like crazy. I don't have my slips with me, but I was hitting like 15.1 or so at 97 I think.

I actually got good launches and was shifting at around 5800 rpm. My mph seems way off then because that's alot higher than I could ever get.
Quote:

Originally Posted by CornBread (Post 2203413)
remember stock tune limits boost in 1-3 gear for the people who complained about tq steer

I am aware of that but limited or not, its pulling like shit.
Quote:

Originally Posted by doctavus (Post 2203727)
Yeah well boost limited or not, that's not right.
I agree 100%
Trap at least should be higher and should be somewhere in the 15's if you suck at driving.

I'm not very bad honestly, just didn't want to say I was decent and get flamed.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 2203744)
local guy was CJ. hes one of our nator tn/ky guys. i talked to him last night. ive got an install day at my house in knoxville next weekend if you want to really see how this community operates :). we can help you check out a few things too if you need a hand.
@ThaKing;

He actually mentioned this to me. I would love to come and see what's up, unfortunately I work Friday and Saturday night 7p-7a. Because my workplace hates me and wants to ruin my social life.. If I can get a heads up before hand I can ask off next time, if an invite would still be possible.

Well I'm going to check my plugs in the morning and see if I have a vacuum leak or something when I get time ( recommended by a local) I hope I can figure something out. If not hopefully in the next couple weeks I can buy an AP.

kentwat 08-10-2013 08:33 AM

Did you have DSC off? 36k miles your plugs could be wore out. Go by the zone and see if there are any stored codes.

sharkyboost 08-10-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentwat (Post 2205136)
Did you have DSC off? 36k miles your plugs could be wore out. Go by the zone and see if there are any stored codes.

Yeah, I had dsc off. I'm actually not a novice to racing its just been a while. I still haven't checked the plugs.. I was going to today and just didn't have the time because of work :dead: I may try to check them on my lunch break. I'm pretty upset with it though. Knowing my luck, I bought a ragged out turd, but I followed the checklist on here.

I've also got a clanky sound around driver side wheel when the clutch isn't pressed in, but only half the time.

DansSpace 08-11-2013 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2204908)
I actually got good launches and was shifting at around 5800 rpm. My mph seems way off then because that's alot higher than I could ever get.

Not to burst your bubble, but a 2.5 second 60' isn't a good launch. Decent launches on stock tires would be around 2.0-2.2 60's, which could impact your quarter mile time by .5-1 second. Still, traps are low, and could be an indication of a problem.

ztnedman1 08-11-2013 07:22 AM

Its VA, how hot was it when you went? How long were you in the staging areas? How does the car feel now? I'm guessing you were heat soaked to hell that or maybe a shitty tank of gas. If you are hitting boost but not going anywhere you are probably pulling alot of timing.

JgamB 08-11-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkyboost (Post 2205723)

I've also got a clanky sound around driver side wheel when the clutch isn't pressed in, but only half the time.

Check the dust covers - you can straighten those out with a screwdriver and not removing the wheel. Make sure they aren't rattling off your rotors.

But yeah, your traps are on par with 185 whp. Something isn't right. Went to the 1/8th mile Friday night and an intake/internals/AP OTS Pu was running 9.4@77mph. A 2.5 60ft indicates you're rolling out of the box and not dropping the clutch from ~3k RPM. (or getting massive wheelspin/hop, but that doesn't sound like your problem)

Can't afford an AP? Donate, get with Nator group. I would have no problems unmarrying from my car to troubleshoot for a friend in need, and I suspect someone else would do the same for you. Stage 0 logs will help.

sharkyboost 08-11-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ztnedman1 (Post 2206266)
Its VA, how hot was it when you went? How long were you in the staging areas? How does the car feel now? I'm guessing you were heat soaked to hell that or maybe a shitty tank of gas. If you are hitting boost but not going anywhere you are probably pulling alot of timing.

It was a mild day, 70s or so and the car ran like dung the following days, the same.
Quote:

Originally Posted by JgamB (Post 2206401)
Check the dust covers - you can straighten those out with a screwdriver and not removing the wheel. Make sure they aren't rattling off your rotors.

But yeah, your traps are on par with 185 whp. Something isn't right. Went to the 1/8th mile Friday night and an intake/internals/AP OTS Pu was running 9.4@77mph. A 2.5 60ft indicates you're rolling out of the box and not dropping the clutch from ~3k RPM. (or getting massive wheelspin/hop, but that doesn't sound like your problem)

Can't afford an AP? Donate, get with Nator group. I would have no problems unmarrying from my car to troubleshoot for a friend in need, and I suspect someone else would do the same for you. Stage 0 logs will help.


I'll check those for sure this evening, honestly didn't think of it.

I knew something wasn't right the day at the strip, I was so sluggish all the way through the gears. I mean alot of my time was due to my rusty skills and never practicing launching the car but still yet it still didn't compensate for that bad of a time.

I do need to donate and tbh the only reason I haven't yet is because I'm a cash only person right now (divorce) and I haven't set even a bank account up yet. I may ask a family member to do it for me and I can pay em back with a little interest haha. A nator group would be very beneficial and I'm looking forward to the awards of VIP, just have to wait a little to join ip.

Now the good news. Today I replaced plugs, tightened and checked everything under the hood, cleaned the maf and replaced the air filter( which was disgusting seeing I just bought it from a dealer) But after all of that throttle response is 100% better along with the power. I dont know what fixed it but it did and made a world of difference!

Thanks to everyone who gave an input and removed a huge weight off my shoulders!

Payne Racing 67 08-12-2013 08:18 AM

Finally a decent noob! LOL...

It's already obvious something is way wrong. My suggestion, check your engine bay for any loose vac lines, boost tubes, intake. Clean your MAF. Also I'd go and plug it in to a scanner to see if anything comes up. You never know, old owner quite possibly could/may have unplugged lights that are supposed to be on.

pzr2874 08-12-2013 08:49 AM

You NEED to rip the bay apart to inspect and clean it all. Plugs, TB, intake, FP...etc...etc


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