Sparco Evo2 Review
 

I finished installing my Sparco Evo2 seat a few days ago and decided to write a full review since I have not seen one on here before. Maybe it's worth of a stocky, LOL.

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Materials needed

1. Any Race Seat
2. Race seat side mounts if applicable
3. Grade 10 Hardware
4. Seat bracket.

I ordered my seat bracket from Wedge Engineering, I ordered a gen1 mount and 3 of the 4 holes lined up perfect. I had measured it in my brothers gen1 sedan and they appeared to be the same to me owe well. If facing the steering wheel the rear left hole didn't line up. So I cut the Wedge bracket and bolted in a small "cheater" peice for the mean time. I will be swapping back to stock seats for the winter at this time I will have the bracket welded properly.

Here are some added benefits to using this seat. Checking blind spots are now so much easier than before you have much more visible range, I attribute this to the seat shape. Also since the height of the seat is lower my arms perfectly rest of the door armrest (where the window controls are) and on the centre armrest. I have found for long drives this makes for a very relaxed experience. The other thing that passengers won't mind is the ENORMOUS amount of rear leg room behind the driver seat. I easily think I have about an extra 4" if not more rear leg room. Not to mention instead of rear passengers staring at the back of a boring Mazda Armrest they can now see how baller you as they ready Sparco on the back of the seat.

The driving experience, I am a firm believer in that to make any car drive a hundred times better you need better tires. I am now a firm believer in that the next step after good tires is a good seat. For those that have never pushed your car beyond the straight line you don't know what you are missing. The seat with stock seat belts hold you in place so well that you can now feel the weight transfer of the car. I would say before the race seat when turning hard your upper body would try and keep your head level and resist the lateral motion of the car. To me this mean that I "felt" I was turning faster than I was. Now with the seat I would take corners at the same speed as I did before and felt nothing, so I tried it again going faster and let me tell you what a difference. You can now easily communicate with the chassis when driving. You will feel more bumps through the road though and you will hear more as well since the seat is bolted directly to the chassis with little dampening other than the seat padding. The seat padding can also be removed if you like a very direct sense of driving a car. With the CPE motor mounts you can feel every vibration and every bump when sitting on the fibreglass directly. The engine vibrations will give you a new perverted sense of driving a car when the vibrations tickle your . . . . I'm getting carried away here, get a seat and you will understand. I have not noticed that my height is to low for me to not see my apexes despite the seat being in it's lowest position. The amount of road I see is that same as before I just see less of the hood of the car.

On to the cons of the seat, firstly it is a pain in the ass to get in and out of. When first sitting in the seat it is a little tight. I'm 5'7" and 215lbs. After about 5 mins of driving in the car you don't notice the "snuggness" of the seat, your body and seat seem to mold into one. Backing up also presents a challenge because I have lost some of the depth looking out the back window. It's still possible to do but I've noticed this has gotten a little more difficult as I don't trust my sight in this new seating position. I'm sure I will get used to it time will tell. The seat is also fully bolted in to reclining the seat and adjusting the seat is not going to happen. The seat can still be adjusted it will just require full removal from the chassis to do so.

For the safety stuff, there is much more to a race seat then meets the eye as I learned through my buying experience. Not only do you have to fit in the seat but the shoulder harness slots must be at your shoulder height. I'm 5'7" and the Evo2 seats just fits me. If you are taller consider the Evo2 Plus seat which is designed for taller drivers. The seat must also be mounted with grade 10 hardware after all you don't want your seat to be coming out of the car in a accident. In my area stock seat belts must be worn at all times and a harness will not be considered a substitute. So as you can see from the picture my stock seat belt buckle is installed with the seat, the bracket comes with the mounting tab but the buckle is a 10mmx1.25 from the gen1 while the gen2 uses a 12x1.25 thread, not a big deal I just got the smaller sized bolt and attached the buckle.

If y ou are planning to use a 4,5,6,8 point harness with your race seat please be advised that you should be wearing a helmet with the appropriate HANS device at all times when using the harness. Failure to do so could result in death, and I don't want to see anyone get hurt because you didn't know. I not found a harness necessary at all when driving on the street, where I have found the harness necessary is under full heavy braking. I mean heavy heavy braking you will slide forward in the seat maybe about an inch if that. Then when you hit the gas you will be back in the seat. This is not really an issue and is a huge improvement over stock it's just the some people may find this annoying. This is also the reason my 5,6,8 point harnesses are better than a 4 point. A 4 point will keep your upper body in place while your hips and thighs move fore and aft in the seat.

The Airbag dilemma, with the airbag in the stock seat not being seen by the computer this will cause the airbag light to blind intermittently. This blinking is letting you know that the system is operational but has a fault. The rest of the airbags will deploy if needed except the one that is missing. Which is obvious because it's now sitting in your basement/garage. To bypass this you will to input a ~2ohm resistor into the yellow airbag harness. I have yet to do this because I didn't have one handy when I installed my seat. I know this will work for people with a manual driver seat I'm not sure if the power driver seat will need more to it. I will keep you all posted as to any issues I run into with this.



Thanks for reading I hope this helps you decided whether or not you want to run a race seat.

next, my seat :)

Looks good. Can I see the ingenuity bracket attachment that you added?

Why grade 10 and not grade 8?

Less talk, more pics next time.

nice review man. Your feedback is really appreciated..

now it'll be very helpfull if you could write down the list of all parts you used for your set up. your inputs on the buckler was great too.

also did you had to cut the floor carpet?

my seat is now in too:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...03363412_o.jpg

all told, not drop in fit. If i was taller, it might have been

i went with the sparco fighter which is a bottom mount seat. You cant adjust the angle or height like pauls evo can, which is a side mount

all told, i spend 700
sparco fighter 430
schroth harness 80
wedge bracket 150
hardware 15
steel tube stock to raise seat 30

LOL. Pic of seat thru the back window. What's that about?

Alex's (breakfasteatre's) seat.

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The small piece I made is nothing fancy. Just a small piece of aluminum with a small bend and two holes drilled in it. I will post pics soon so you can see what I'm talking about.

Did you guys have any issues with the seat belt hole on the wedge bracket? The one I got for my genwon was too small. I had to drill the hole bigger but everything else lined up perfectly.

FYI, I installed recaro speed and I'm loving it.

Yes mine were too small as well. I just didn't reuse the stock bolt, I used a new 10x1.25mm I think or 10x1.5 I don't remember. My seat belt buckle is bolted tight and doesn't swivel or move anywhere which I didn't mind. Breakfasteatre's car is the same.

They both look good. I like the R505 or the Chrono Road because the back is ajustable and I don't Autox. Did both of you use the 400 base and add the bracket to the right rear corner? My seat is a year old and looks like hell. I need to do something about it eventually.

Here are all the photos of the installation for those wondering how everything lines up.

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Do you guys need/want more pictures? Cause I can take as many as you want.

I've got the same seat. It's amazing how much a fucking seat transforms your driving experience. It looks like they added some fancy stiching to the seat. You'll get used to getting in and out of the seat. Be careful with pants that have sharp buttons, they tend to tear the fabric fairly easily if you jump in and out of the seat carelessly. I'm thinking about having some leather or a more durable material stiched into the left side of the seat. I used grade 8 hardware.

They changed the seat cover for 2012, My seat was manufactured April 2012. Otherwise it would look like the older style with the block lettering. It's the same seat otherwise.

Shit now I wish I kept that Sparco Fighter seat I had.

Do you guys autox or did yahll install these seats for other reasons?

you are dealing with track junkies over here..... :)

@Celestspeed3: moar pics please. I'll like to see how it looks like, underneath the driver seat, wan na see the carpet pls

Paul is brown, but this guy is one of the orangest guys I've met.

There was no need to modify the carpet at all. I'm not sure I can get pics of under the seat without removing the seat.

thx for the confirmation. looks like I'll be short $700 pretty soon.

Did you have to do anything special to take the measurments? I dont care taking my seat off twice to take measurments and then to do the swap, but I want to make sure I do it right and give them the info they need

qft man for sure. @skeurton, this thread was practically made for you.

my seat and harness were used, so thats one of the reasons why my setup was substantially cheaper than pauls

and we are track junkies

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FYI, I had been working with Sparco and Speedware Motorsports to try and get a Gen2 seat bracket fabricated. Not sure what the status of this is. I'll have to check in and see. Here's the original thread that I had started:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ackets-112838/

If you can get the genpu seat base to happen that would be great. Id buy both driver and passenger seats in a heartbeat.

Chrono Road: Badass for a dd!

Someone say evo?

Well I called wedge today and they acted like I was speaking chinese. They were telling me the only thing they had was for a mazda speed protege? @Celestapeed3 did you get a part number with the repeipt so I have something to refrence to. Btw it looks tits and Im totaly copying you.

@Celestspeed3: Fixed it for ya

I think the part number is for a 2005 regular 3. If you said Mazdaspeed he will say they don't have it.

Wedge PN 2122

Keep in mind when ordering you will need to know the center to center distance of the seat mounting holes. So best get the seat first and the side brackets if necessary, mock everything up then order from wedge.

@Celestspeed3: , @breakfasteatre: Is this the same seat as in the link?

SPARCO EVO SEAT - Speedware Motorsports - Racing Safety Distributor

Thanks for the confirmation.

ALso please could you PM me part lists for this mod? That will be nice....

Yes this is the same model of seat I used for my car except I have the EVO2 which is for fat people. ;)

OK evo2 is bigger than the Evo. I never saw a pic of you, but when you say fat, not sure how to imagine that. Just trying to figure out which one to get in term of size. I'm not fat, I'm normal, so not tinny :).

I'm about 5'8" and about 230lbs, I wear a 38" waist comfortably if that gives you an idea.

EDIT: This is the exact seat that I have.

http://www.speedwaremotorsports.com/...-evo-2us-black

I'mmabout the same weight and size. so I think the evo2 will feat me correctly.

Thanks man

I'm 5'8" and 150.
Fits great on my shoulders, but a little loose in the ass. Lol@looseass.
The material alone would be enough to keep me in.
Like I said to Paul, it's not my kart seat, but it's a vast improvement over the stocker.

@Celestspeed3: , @breakfasteatre:

What's the order of purchase? seat first or hardware first?

So does the side mounts come with the seats? Looks like I'll have to give them a call..

1. Race Seat
2. Race seat side mounts if applicable
3. Grade 10 Hardware
4. Seat bracket.

I'll appreciate any inputs on this.

OK was just reading back the thread and found this from Celesta: seat first and the side brackets

I'll give them a call and see how far they can help me.

Any inputs on the color? Should I go red or black. My Genpu is red. But I'll like to color to match the rear seats. Black sounds like it'll match the existing color inside the car.

Let me know your thoughts please

you will need everything to install the seat so it really doesn't matter what order you get them in.

I would through recommend getting the seat and sidemounts first. That way when you order the seat bracket you can specify the distance between the bolt holes. If you can find them online than that will save you some time.

I was thinking I can re-use your measurements since this should be the distance between holes should be the same on all Genpu, not?

Correct me if I'm wrong but Speedware Motorsports who did your brackets already should have the measurements not?

Worst case I'll have to take some measurements and give them a call.

Thanks for the confirmation

just got off the phone with Speedware Motorsports and apparently they have the seat brackets for the speed3 Genpu that will fit on the Sparco Evo2.

So this will mean less work and headaches for me haha. That's great news....

The only thing I need to figure out is the seat belts. Which way I want to go:

1) harness
2) Re-use the stock seat belt.

For cost reason, I think I'll re-use first the stock one until I recover from this expense....... Always one step a the time. Even "Paris wasn't built in one night", french ppl will say :)

So how's the fitment between the center console and the side mounts? Also how is the visibility once you have the seat in place? Are you seating pretty high in the car or is a bit low?

Thanks for your help man!

I'm currently using the stock belts through the belt holes on the seat and you really need a seat belt pad as it will dig into your neck with just a tee shirt.

I ordered a DOT approved 4 point Schroth harness from Edge. I think it was about $165 or something like that.

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre:

I'm putting together the parts list that I need for this mod. Now one question came up and I couldn't answer. Which brackets do I need?

The low brackets or the normal height ones? Also could you help with part number here?

Since I like to seat pretty high on the seat, I'll shot for the normal height. Is that the same think you guys got? Just to make sure.

Also does the seat bracket depends on the side mounts or you can combine them in different orders?

Thanks

Sorry if I miss anything, how was the seat height, was it taller? Or can it be lower?

Im 6'2 38 waist and it would probably be something for me down the road, but headroom is a must. I used to have Rev plus on my old car, amazing seat if you are not gaining weight but i remove the pad to get some headroom clearance and believe me its literally a PITA.

My seat i at the lowest position. I didnt know there was a standard or low height version. If there is go with the low height version and just raise the seat on the side mounts.

I have more headroom than I did with the stock seat, my shoulder is about level with the window.


My brackets are from Wedge Engineering.

BREY KRAUSE R-9061 SEAT SIDE MOUNT BRACKET - SPARCO EVO-2, EVO-2 PLUS, CORSA SEAT

I went with Brey Krause steel side mounts. I spoke to another guy that had a speed3 with an evo seat, and thats what he used. I think Wedge Engineering recomended that side mount as well. You can go with aluminum side mounts, they will be a little lighter, but I figured steel is going to be more sturdy. If youre going for all out weight savings, go with an aluminum side mount. I know sparco makes aluminum side mounts, i'm sure there are a few more companies that make em. The side mounts you get doesn't matter, as long it's made for the particular seat you have, and as long as your bracket has the right dimensions you should be good to go. If you have the correct wedge bracket, it should be a bolt-up affair. The part number for the Wedge bracket is on the first page, maybe @Celestspeed3 can confirm the number. With the Brey Krause side mounts you can sit fairly high up, almost higher than the stock level, and much lower at the lowest setting. I found that the lowest setting was too low on autox courses and had a hard time seeing the cones in front of me, lol. I raised it up a couple holes and its perfect. Keep in mind that your results may vary depending on the bracket you go with, because your side mounts are going onto that bracket. Some brackets may sit higher or lower than others.


truth, I would start off here. Do this and measure the holes for yourself. Call Wedge Engineering and they will tell you the exact bracket that you need based off of the distance from hole to hole on the side mounts. Odds are that it will be the same dimensions as the one for the mazda3 or the ms3? Not sure people are still just ordering the mazda3 bracket. At least you know you are going to get the correct bracket if you measure for yourself and give Wedge the dimensions.

I used Wedge Engineering Part# 2122

So I installed the Schroth rally 4 harness today. It took all of about 15mins in the rain.

I like how your seat has a bum crack.

Correct me if im wrong on this, to sum it up, if we need a side mount, we're going to need the bracket from wedge engineering, and even if we get that, we still need to fabricate one of the four corners mounting to securely on the car?

Possibly.
But we definitely don't need two signatures that say the exact same thing.

The process is the same wether you get a side mount of a bottom mount seat. You need to fab a small piece if you have a gen2. Gen1 bolts right in.

@tokay: lol my bad…
@celest: got it! thx a lot man

All right guys,

I pulled the trigger on a sparco set for the driver side.

Will arrive some time next week. I'll install and give some impression.

A special thanks to @Everyone, @Celestspeed3 for all the assistance and providing with the necessary info.

Can't wait to install this.

Make sure you order a harness. I haven't had time to post a full review on it yet but let me just say the seat is only half the experience.

The Schroth Rallye 4 harness is what I used its DOT approved and you can still use the back seat when needed. Best part is its like half the price of a race harness.

If you do any kind of road racing and decide to go with a 4-point, make sure you get a Schroth, see here, for example. I would go with a 5 or 6 point belts as some groups may not allow any 4 point belts.

who has the cheapest harness around? What to pay attention at and what not to do?
@Code Monkey, thanks already for your first input.

Also I saw in couple Genpu, you can easily hook up the harness to the rear seat bolts. That's great so I won't have an harness bar in the back.

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre,

Got my seat,and all the hardware but no single screw or bolt. no instruction. I'm not sure if the spare bolts I have around here will not fuck up the thread on the seat.

I got all the parts from Speedware Motorsport. I think they forgot to drop the install instructions.

Can any one help with some info on the bolts/hardware I need to put the rails on the seat mounts. I think I can figure out the rest.

Thanks. A lot

Bump

Go on the sparco website and they have all the hardware you will need to mount the rails, bracket and seat. Its like $10. Then the day of, remove the 4 bolts that hold the stocker to the floor board and go (in a different car or sitting on a bucket) to ace/home depot/lowes and replace them with some grade 8 bolts that match up.
As for how to put it together, use the pics in op to do it, its preatty straight forward.

Thanks man,

I figure out Yesterday how to position the rails and brackets, etc, etc.

Now I'm not for sure what type/quality of the bolts/nuts I need to use to attach the rails to the frame.

Is the grade telling you how robust the bolts are? Hopefully the quality of the bolts i will be buying will not brake when I'm driving on a race track.

Wow sparco ppl, I can't believe this. Not a single install instruction provided... I'll make sure to give them a review on their Facebook

Yeah Grade 8 refers to the metal alloy mixture and means that they are stupid strong and are hard to snap/strip/break.

I wish they mad a replacement for us. For instance the STi has a full interior replacement that is the same colored as stock seats just that you get race seats

http://www.mikeschear.com/golfa/misc/STi%20028.jpg

I'm looking at getting the sparco r100's (i'm cheap). Was going to pull the trigger today, but between the hardware and mounting plates you also need to get... I decided to wait on it. The racing seats look sexy though!

you need to get the hardware kit which was separate. Im not sure on the thread pitch.

They sent me the hardware kit.

The sparco seat is on the rails and bracket. However I'm having fitment issues with the bracket Speedware Motorsport sent me. Will post some pics tomorrow.

Will give them a phone call they won't forget about for long time to come.

Those are the main reasons I don't buy used stuffs anymore on this forum. All those parts manufacturers are selling out her just doesn't work. They are POS....

They are just fouling poeple. How come a bracket for the Gen2 speed 3 I ordered, specifically for my car, is not seating properly?

Really can't believe it. When are we gonna buy stuffs for this car that works the very fist time?

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre: Did you encouter this issue? And if yes how did you solved it?
Thanks

I only had the issue with the last bracket in the 4 photo. The other ones lined up for me. I got my bracket from wedge engineering.

How did you solved it? Did they sent you the right one that will fit?

Thanks

No I made a small bracket. I showed it in the photos.

The seatbelt is easy. The airbag is a little trickier. I will post up more later

Did you took it to a shop to make the bracket?

Thanks for the heads up!

No he got a piece of metal and shaped it. There are no brackets that are made for the gen 2 so you have to mess with the gen 1 bracket to fit correctly. If you read the op all this info is there.

Ok guys, I got this taken care of. A local shop fixed it.

I'll upload the new picture later on tonight......

Can't wait for the pics. I have some brides sitting around that I need to put in

Here you go.

This is 120 bucks right there. I'm getting that money back from the merchant.

Going to bed with severe migraine.

So looking at these posts, I've gathered that:

- Speedware or Wedge base, both will require some modification for the 2010+
- Side mounts (like Celestspeed3) or rails (like bertrand_CX_7), not quite sure on breakfasteatre's setup though?
- Hardware kit

Does this cover all? I don't need mine to be adjustable/on rails, so I'm good with a side mount plate from Sparco. They also offer a base for Mazda3 05+... but seems Wedge/Speedware are better?

Anything you'd done differently if you had to do it all over again?

Trying to get my ducks in a row. Seems like the install isn't all that straight forward. Thanks!

I've been reading on it and this is the order:

1. Buy seat and side mounts. You can also purchase sliders although if you do any kind of road racing, sliders are not recommended. If you buy sliders, you will need double-locking, these are the only ones allowed for racing. I still would not buy them, the seat will still move a bit, just google around and the issue will come up.

2. Get the bracket - custom made for us (both MS3 and MS6). The mounting holes must not only match your floor plan, but also the bottom or side mounting of the seats, this is why you need to purchase seat and mount first. For the MS6 guys, the regular Mazda 6 and the MS6 share the same floor plan, but you still need to measure the holes on the mounts (be it side or bottom).

3. Mounting hardware at any time, per suggestions above you can but a kit with the seat, replace hardware with grade 10 if needed.

lol
 

You got it so far. You can call Sparco to chat a little bit about installation. IT was helpfull when I talked to them.

I like the slider because I can adjust the seat forth and back.

One thing I'll give wedge a shot. I went through couple Hazel with Speedware. They send me 3 different shipments for an order with 3 parts. That just tells you a little bit their mind set. I mean if someone is not able to ship out correctly an order with just 3 parts I'm not sure if they are supposed to work on cars. Just my 0.2 cents to be taken with grain of salts. My experience wasn't that great.....

Beside that great mod and I'll highly recommend...

You get it so far. You can call Sparco to chat a little bit about installation. IT was helpfull when I talked to them.

I like the slider because I can adjust the seat forth and back.

One thing I'll give wedge a shot. I went through couple Hazel with Speedware. They send me 3 different shipments for an order with 3 parts. That just tells you a little bit their mind set. I mean if someone is not able to ship out correctly an order with just 3 parts I'm not sure if they are supposed to work on cars. Just my 0.2 cents to be taken with grain of salts. My experience wasn't that great.....

Beside that great mode and I'll highly recommend...

Now you are one step away, just need the harness and you are all set.

Breakfasteatre has a bottom fixed mount setup. I had to raise his seat higher as it wasn't tall enough for him.

im just a tiny beb

we used 1x1 or 2x2 steel tubing, with the holes. Like a fukin street sign

worked well, seating position was perfect after that, but im 5'6"

Can any of you guys who've installed this tell me whether or not you think a Evo 3 would fit? I have a Gen 1, so I realize its not 1 to 1, but I can't find anyone who's installed one. And yes I'm a fatass and need one. From taking my own measurements of my existing stock seat, I'm mostly worried about the 25.6" shoulder width, which is 2.6" wider than the Evo 2. Does it look like there's enough room to pull that off to you guys?

Thanks for any input.

evo 2 is the absolute biggest evo seat that will fit in a gen1. I don't think you can fit an evo 3 without taking off the side panel that covers the seatbelt assembly, and your seat mount may touch the center console. The shoulder already touches the seat belt cover panel with my evo 2

Shitty. I was afraid of that. Motivation to shed some pounds I guess. Thx for the info.

You mounted to the floor or on sliders? Have any more detailed pigs of your install? Seems like most pics are with the door open from a distance.

I got Brey Krause steel side mounts that bolted onto the sides of the seat and welded onto the stock slider. I'll try to get a pic and post it up.

I think the Evo3 "could" fit, your just probably won't be centered with the steering wheel and you may be stuck having the seat closer to the wheel then you'd like. If you can find a local shop to test it out for you that would be best.

I'm 5'7" and 230lbs, I fit in the Evo2 US seat. Depends on your body fit as well, I tried a bunch of seats before I bought one. If you are coming to the MNM you can try mine.

I was going to ask if any of you were using the EVO II US. Good to hear that's the one your using. I'm tall (6' 3")and plump (260 lbs), so the III would have been best but I definitely need it to be a bit further back, so the compromises you mentioned definitely wouldn't work. A Wider EVO II would have been great, but I'll just have to make do, nothing wrong with motivation.

Thanks for the offer on fitting, but I won't be making it to MNM.

Thanks for the info and looking forward to the pic. Can you comment at all on how much lower it sits than stock?

You may be able to fit it with removing the seatbelt cover or just cutting a section out of where the shoulder area hits.

You want to check out he OMP WRC XL seat, and the Sabelt Titian seat those might suit you better. I'm not 100% on fitment though. I think the Sabelt is a better fit though. The ass part of the seat is just as wide as mine plus the shoulder harness slots are taller allowing for proper belt angles with taller drivers.

Edit: links provided

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...lassSeat/Seats

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...gWRCSeat/Seats

Dimensions are listed under additional information.

The seat sits much lower than stock at the lowest setting. I had to raise it up because I had trouble seeing past the hood on autox courses. Plenty of headroom, even with a helmet.

Which seat bracket are you using? My wedge bracket is about the same height as stock at its lowest setting?

you damn fatties

Stock seat bracket, stock slider assembly. Side mounts bolted onto the stock slider assembly. Modified the slider assembly a bit so the steel side mounts could be welded onto the slider assembly as an extra measure. I'll have to take a pic, sounds complicated, but it works. I did not have to buy a seat bracket or slider assembly, just side mounts and hardware for it...and the seat of course.

Ah, I didn't even look at that as an option. I have the power seat bracket and I don't think it would have even worked.

Good to know for everyone else they can save some cash.

I was trying to remember if the stock seats could be removed from the brackets. That answers that question for me. I have been kicking around the idea of doing a seat as well.

Jason

It's one of the best things you will ever do to your car. Second only to tires.

I wish I could afford a seat and at least a 4 points harness. :-/

Well at least I won't have to climb over a roll cage to get into it. I am thinking of trying to locate the Recaro seats from an EVO 9.

Jason

I have been on that same mission.. If you find a pair and only need one. Let me know!

Also someone who has an evo seat.. Can you measure the clearance from the floor to the top of the seat/ bracket? I'm trying to get an idea how they will fit since I have an amp below my seat.

Where can I see pictures of your seat setup?

And from the bottom of the bracket to the bottom of the seat. I'd like to know how much lower the seat actually sits.

I'm just really picky. They have the leather ones, but I want the alcantara ones. They are even harder to locate.

Jason

ive just been trying to find any decently priced ones.lol. Im going to be looking at a sparco milano tomorrow, hopefully that goes well

There you go man

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