Sparco Evo2 Review

[Celestspeed3]

I'm currently using the stock belts through the belt holes on the seat and you really need a seat belt pad as it will dig into your neck with just a tee shirt.

I ordered a DOT approved 4 point Schroth harness from Edge. I think it was about $165 or something like that.

[bertrand_CX_7]

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre:

I'm putting together the parts list that I need for this mod. Now one question came up and I couldn't answer. Which brackets do I need?

The low brackets or the normal height ones? Also could you help with part number here?

Since I like to seat pretty high on the seat, I'll shot for the normal height. Is that the same think you guys got? Just to make sure.

Also does the seat bracket depends on the side mounts or you can combine them in different orders?

Thanks

[HKSpeed3]

Sorry if I miss anything, how was the seat height, was it taller? Or can it be lower?

Im 6'2 38 waist and it would probably be something for me down the road, but headroom is a must. I used to have Rev plus on my old car, amazing seat if you are not gaining weight but i remove the pad to get some headroom clearance and believe me its literally a PITA.

[Celestspeed3]

My seat i at the lowest position. I didnt know there was a standard or low height version. If there is go with the low height version and just raise the seat on the side mounts.

I have more headroom than I did with the stock seat, my shoulder is about level with the window.


My brackets are from Wedge Engineering.

[Manny]

Originally Posted by bertrand_CX_7 @Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre: I'm putting together the parts list that I need for this mod. Now one question came up and I couldn't answer. Which brackets do I need? The low brackets or the normal height ones? Also could you help with part number here? Since I like to seat pretty high on the seat, I'll shot for the normal height. Is that the same think you guys got? Just to make sure. Also does the seat bracket depends on the side mounts or you can combine them in different orders? Thanks

BREY KRAUSE R-9061 SEAT SIDE MOUNT BRACKET - SPARCO EVO-2, EVO-2 PLUS, CORSA SEAT

I went with Brey Krause steel side mounts. I spoke to another guy that had a speed3 with an evo seat, and thats what he used. I think Wedge Engineering recomended that side mount as well. You can go with aluminum side mounts, they will be a little lighter, but I figured steel is going to be more sturdy. If youre going for all out weight savings, go with an aluminum side mount. I know sparco makes aluminum side mounts, i'm sure there are a few more companies that make em. The side mounts you get doesn't matter, as long it's made for the particular seat you have, and as long as your bracket has the right dimensions you should be good to go. If you have the correct wedge bracket, it should be a bolt-up affair. The part number for the Wedge bracket is on the first page, maybe @Celestspeed3 can confirm the number. With the Brey Krause side mounts you can sit fairly high up, almost higher than the stock level, and much lower at the lowest setting. I found that the lowest setting was too low on autox courses and had a hard time seeing the cones in front of me, lol. I raised it up a couple holes and its perfect. Keep in mind that your results may vary depending on the bracket you go with, because your side mounts are going onto that bracket. Some brackets may sit higher or lower than others.

Originally Posted by Celestspeed3 I would through recommend getting the seat and sidemounts first. That way when you order the seat bracket you can specify the distance between the bolt holes. If you can find them online than that will save you some time.

truth, I would start off here. Do this and measure the holes for yourself. Call Wedge Engineering and they will tell you the exact bracket that you need based off of the distance from hole to hole on the side mounts. Odds are that it will be the same dimensions as the one for the mazda3 or the ms3? Not sure people are still just ordering the mazda3 bracket. At least you know you are going to get the correct bracket if you measure for yourself and give Wedge the dimensions.

[Celestspeed3]

I used Wedge Engineering Part# 2122

[Celestspeed3]

So I installed the Schroth rally 4 harness today. It took all of about 15mins in the rain.

[Tokay444]

I like how your seat has a bum crack.

[HKSpeed3]

Correct me if im wrong on this, to sum it up, if we need a side mount, we're going to need the bracket from wedge engineering, and even if we get that, we still need to fabricate one of the four corners mounting to securely on the car?

[Tokay444]

Possibly.
But we definitely don't need two signatures that say the exact same thing.

[Celestspeed3]

The process is the same wether you get a side mount of a bottom mount seat. You need to fab a small piece if you have a gen2. Gen1 bolts right in.

[HKSpeed3]

@tokay: lol my bad…
@celest: got it! thx a lot man

[bertrand_CX_7]

All right guys,

I pulled the trigger on a sparco set for the driver side.

Will arrive some time next week. I'll install and give some impression.

A special thanks to @Everyone, @Celestspeed3 for all the assistance and providing with the necessary info.

Can't wait to install this.

[Celestspeed3]

Make sure you order a harness. I haven't had time to post a full review on it yet but let me just say the seat is only half the experience.

The Schroth Rallye 4 harness is what I used its DOT approved and you can still use the back seat when needed. Best part is its like half the price of a race harness.

[Code Monkey]

If you do any kind of road racing and decide to go with a 4-point, make sure you get a Schroth, see here, for example. I would go with a 5 or 6 point belts as some groups may not allow any 4 point belts.

[bertrand_CX_7]

who has the cheapest harness around? What to pay attention at and what not to do?
@Code Monkey, thanks already for your first input.

Also I saw in couple Genpu, you can easily hook up the harness to the rear seat bolts. That's great so I won't have an harness bar in the back.

[bertrand_CX_7]

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre,

Got my seat,and all the hardware but no single screw or bolt. no instruction. I'm not sure if the spare bolts I have around here will not fuck up the thread on the seat.

I got all the parts from Speedware Motorsport. I think they forgot to drop the install instructions.

Can any one help with some info on the bolts/hardware I need to put the rails on the seat mounts. I think I can figure out the rest.

Thanks. A lot

[bertrand_CX_7]

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[Sid3wayS]

Go on the sparco website and they have all the hardware you will need to mount the rails, bracket and seat. Its like $10. Then the day of, remove the 4 bolts that hold the stocker to the floor board and go (in a different car or sitting on a bucket) to ace/home depot/lowes and replace them with some grade 8 bolts that match up.
As for how to put it together, use the pics in op to do it, its preatty straight forward.

[bertrand_CX_7]

Thanks man,

I figure out Yesterday how to position the rails and brackets, etc, etc.

Now I'm not for sure what type/quality of the bolts/nuts I need to use to attach the rails to the frame.

Is the grade telling you how robust the bolts are? Hopefully the quality of the bolts i will be buying will not brake when I'm driving on a race track.

Wow sparco ppl, I can't believe this. Not a single install instruction provided... I'll make sure to give them a review on their Facebook

Originally Posted by Sid3wayS Go on the sparco website and they have all the hardware you will need to mount the rails, bracket and seat. Its like $10. Then the day of, remove the 4 bolts that hold the stocker to the floor board and go (in a different car or sitting on a bucket) to ace/home depot/lowes and replace them with some grade 8 bolts that match up. As for how to put it together, use the pics in op to do it, its preatty straight forward.

[Sid3wayS]

Yeah Grade 8 refers to the metal alloy mixture and means that they are stupid strong and are hard to snap/strip/break.

[forcedinduktion]

I wish they mad a replacement for us. For instance the STi has a full interior replacement that is the same colored as stock seats just that you get race seats

[Zoorah12]

I'm looking at getting the sparco r100's (i'm cheap). Was going to pull the trigger today, but between the hardware and mounting plates you also need to get... I decided to wait on it. The racing seats look sexy though!

[Celestspeed3]

you need to get the hardware kit which was separate. Im not sure on the thread pitch.

[bertrand_CX_7]

They sent me the hardware kit.

The sparco seat is on the rails and bracket. However I'm having fitment issues with the bracket Speedware Motorsport sent me. Will post some pics tomorrow.

Will give them a phone call they won't forget about for long time to come.

Those are the main reasons I don't buy used stuffs anymore on this forum. All those parts manufacturers are selling out her just doesn't work. They are POS....

They are just fouling poeple. How come a bracket for the Gen2 speed 3 I ordered, specifically for my car, is not seating properly?

Really can't believe it. When are we gonna buy stuffs for this car that works the very fist time?

@Celestspeed3, @breakfasteatre: Did you encouter this issue? And if yes how did you solved it?
Thanks

[Celestspeed3]

I only had the issue with the last bracket in the 4 photo. The other ones lined up for me. I got my bracket from wedge engineering.

[bertrand_CX_7]

How did you solved it? Did they sent you the right one that will fit?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Celestspeed3 I only had the issue with the last bracket in the 4 photo. The other ones lined up for me. I got my bracket from wedge engineering.

[Celestspeed3]

No I made a small bracket. I showed it in the photos.

The seatbelt is easy. The airbag is a little trickier. I will post up more later

[bertrand_CX_7]

Did you took it to a shop to make the bracket?

Thanks for the heads up!

[Sid3wayS]

No he got a piece of metal and shaped it. There are no brackets that are made for the gen 2 so you have to mess with the gen 1 bracket to fit correctly. If you read the op all this info is there.

[bertrand_CX_7]

Ok guys, I got this taken care of. A local shop fixed it.

I'll upload the new picture later on tonight......

[rgz]

Can't wait for the pics. I have some brides sitting around that I need to put in

[bertrand_CX_7]

Here you go.

This is 120 bucks right there. I'm getting that money back from the merchant.

Going to bed with severe migraine.

[Dre01SS]

So looking at these posts, I've gathered that:

- Speedware or Wedge base, both will require some modification for the 2010+
- Side mounts (like Celestspeed3) or rails (like bertrand_CX_7), not quite sure on breakfasteatre's setup though?
- Hardware kit

Does this cover all? I don't need mine to be adjustable/on rails, so I'm good with a side mount plate from Sparco. They also offer a base for Mazda3 05+... but seems Wedge/Speedware are better?

Anything you'd done differently if you had to do it all over again?

Trying to get my ducks in a row. Seems like the install isn't all that straight forward. Thanks!

[Code Monkey]

I've been reading on it and this is the order:

1. Buy seat and side mounts. You can also purchase sliders although if you do any kind of road racing, sliders are not recommended. If you buy sliders, you will need double-locking, these are the only ones allowed for racing. I still would not buy them, the seat will still move a bit, just google around and the issue will come up.

2. Get the bracket - custom made for us (both MS3 and MS6). The mounting holes must not only match your floor plan, but also the bottom or side mounting of the seats, this is why you need to purchase seat and mount first. For the MS6 guys, the regular Mazda 6 and the MS6 share the same floor plan, but you still need to measure the holes on the mounts (be it side or bottom).

3. Mounting hardware at any time, per suggestions above you can but a kit with the seat, replace hardware with grade 10 if needed.

[bertrand_CX_7]

You got it so far. You can call Sparco to chat a little bit about installation. IT was helpfull when I talked to them.

I like the slider because I can adjust the seat forth and back.

One thing I'll give wedge a shot. I went through couple Hazel with Speedware. They send me 3 different shipments for an order with 3 parts. That just tells you a little bit their mind set. I mean if someone is not able to ship out correctly an order with just 3 parts I'm not sure if they are supposed to work on cars. Just my 0.2 cents to be taken with grain of salts. My experience wasn't that great.....

Beside that great mod and I'll highly recommend...

You get it so far. You can call Sparco to chat a little bit about installation. IT was helpfull when I talked to them.

I like the slider because I can adjust the seat forth and back.

One thing I'll give wedge a shot. I went through couple Hazel with Speedware. They send me 3 different shipments for an order with 3 parts. That just tells you a little bit their mind set. I mean if someone is not able to ship out correctly an order with just 3 parts I'm not sure if they are supposed to work on cars. Just my 0.2 cents to be taken with grain of salts. My experience wasn't that great.....

Beside that great mode and I'll highly recommend...

Originally Posted by Dre01SS So looking at these posts, I've gathered that: - Speedware or Wedge base, both will require some modification for the 2010+ - Side mounts (like Celestspeed3) or rails (like bertrand_CX_7), not quite sure on breakfasteatre's setup though? - Hardware kit Does this cover all? I don't need mine to be adjustable/on rails, so I'm good with a side mount plate from Sparco. They also offer a base for Mazda3 05+... but seems Wedge/Speedware are better? Anything you'd done differently if you had to do it all over again? Trying to get my ducks in a row. Seems like the install isn't all that straight forward. Thanks!

[Celestspeed3]

Now you are one step away, just need the harness and you are all set.

Breakfasteatre has a bottom fixed mount setup. I had to raise his seat higher as it wasn't tall enough for him.

[breakfasteatre]

Originally Posted by Celestspeed3 Now you are one step away, just need the harness and you are all set. Breakfasteatre has a bottom fixed mount setup. I had to raise his seat higher as it wasn't tall enough for him.

im just a tiny beb

we used 1x1 or 2x2 steel tubing, with the holes. Like a fukin street sign

worked well, seating position was perfect after that, but im 5'6"

[Tweaek]

Can any of you guys who've installed this tell me whether or not you think a Evo 3 would fit? I have a Gen 1, so I realize its not 1 to 1, but I can't find anyone who's installed one. And yes I'm a fatass and need one. From taking my own measurements of my existing stock seat, I'm mostly worried about the 25.6" shoulder width, which is 2.6" wider than the Evo 2. Does it look like there's enough room to pull that off to you guys?

Thanks for any input.

[Manny]

evo 2 is the absolute biggest evo seat that will fit in a gen1. I don't think you can fit an evo 3 without taking off the side panel that covers the seatbelt assembly, and your seat mount may touch the center console. The shoulder already touches the seat belt cover panel with my evo 2