Stage 1 buildup with before and after dyno runs (Agile Automotive Performance)

[xb2ms3]

You should monitor your fp very carefully, there were some people that were having issues including me with just an intake and tip.

On the stage 1 ots map I was overboosting to 20 psi causing my fp to drop dangerously low.

[fortressofcomfort]

As promised:

2012 Mazdaspeed3 Dyno Stock vs Cobb Stage1 bolt-ons 273hp, 273lb/ft torque - YouTube

Car gained 23hp and 43lb/ft with the Stage 1 OTS map, SF SRI intake, and TIH/TIP.

@410ms3: When money comes in for the next round of mods I will probably seek out someone who specializes in the L3-VDT. For what I needed done (stage 1 mods and dyno runs) Agile did a fine job.

@xb2ms3: I plan to monitor the fuel pressure and boost moving forward. If I suspect anything I will move forward with the fuel system upgrades.

[fortressofcomfort]

UPDATE:
Well dammit you guys were right!
Car was breaking up around 4.5k - 5k in 2nd gear. Only in 2nd gear and only when I can get traction. Almost like it was pulling timing like when traction control kicks on.
Tried monitoring boost while driving.... a couple spikes to 18psi but they weren't accompanied by anything unusual.
Monitored knock retard... was able to recreate the 2nd gear "surging" which is hard to do without wheelspin now. No knock retard. Hmmm.
OK this trying to monitor and drive is fucking impossible.
Figured out how the AccessPort logging function works. Finally was able to capture a log with the "default" parameters while the surging was occuring. See below.

Bottom line... yes I am seeing (and feeling) the dreaded GenPu low fuel pressure problem grrrrr. Its weird that it only happens in 2nd gear and not all the time.
SO NOW WHAT? Who wants to put a better fuel pump on this for me? Who is up to the challenge? Also, does this mean I will be able to run Stage2 maps after I upgrade the pump?
Save the "I told you so bullshit" ok? Just help me out here.

Thank gawd for the internets and all you peoples. Big props to... YOU

Look at the sixth column in. FP starts to tank below 1500psi around 4400rpms with a low of 773psi @4873rpms. I get off the throttle about 9 rows from the bottom (5349rpms) and you see the FP start to recover about 1/5 of a second later.

How can the fuel pressure drop that low but still maintain a a/f ratio of 9.x ?? In physical terms, does that mean there is ENOUGH fuel in the combustion chamber but it isn't DISPERSED correctly in terms of a direct injection application and this is causing unusual flame fronts and/or combustion patterns inside the cylinder(s)? Is that the idea here?

Time Actual AFR (AFR) Boost (PSI) Boost Air Temp. (? F) Calculated Load (Load) HPFP Act. Press. (PSI) Intake Temp. (? F) Intake Valve Adv. (?) Knock Retard (?) Long Term FT (%) MAF Voltage (V) Mass Airflow (g/s) RPM (RPM) Short Term FT (%) Spark Adv. (?) Throttle Position (%) Vehicle Speed (mph) Wastegate Duty (%)
353.43 9.99 13.26 51.8 1.82 1657.72 37.4 0.12 0.85 0 4.06 199.8 4315 0 4.5 72.93 37.9 30.37
353.47 9.76 13.98 51.8 1.87 1553.3 37.4 0.25 0.85 0 4.08 202.82 4298 0 4 72.93 37.9 24.88
353.51 9.76 14.41 50 1.89 1582.31 37.4 0 0.85 0 4.09 204.36 4383 0 4 72.93 39.15 21.8
353.55 9.76 14.62 50 1.89 1493.84 37.4 0.12 0.85 0 4.1 205.9 4430 0 4 72.93 39.15 21.91
353.61 9.53 14.41 48.2 1.86 1344.45 37.4 0 0.85 0 4.12 208.98 4612 0 4.5 73.32 39.15 25.4
353.65 9.65 14.19 48.2 1.84 1300.94 37.4 0.38 0.85 0 4.14 211.34 4687 0 4.5 73.32 42.25 27.36
353.67 9.53 14.05 48.2 1.82 1295.14 37.4 0.31 0.85 0 4.16 214.5 4729 0 5 73.32 42.25 28.85
353.71 9.65 14.05 48.2 1.82 1228.43 37.4 0.38 0.85 0 4.16 215.29 4786 0 5 73.32 42.25 30.5
353.77 9.53 13.98 48.2 1.82 1158.81 37.4 0.38 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4823 0 6 73.32 42.25 30.46
353.79 9.42 14.05 48.2 1.83 1081.94 37.4 0.12 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4820 0 6 73.71 43.5 28.27
353.83 9.19 14.05 48.2 1.82 1047.14 37.4 0.25 0.15 0 4.19 220.13 4841 0 6 72.54 43.5 19.58
353.89 8.96 14.33 48.2 1.85 942.71 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 4777 0 5.5 67.86 43.5 7.39
353.93 9.07 14.84 48.2 1.88 861.49 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 4717 0 5.5 64.74 43.5 0
353.95 9.3 14.76 48.2 1.86 839.74 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4762 0 5.5 62.01 42.87 0
353.99 9.53 14.62 48.2 1.85 822.34 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4789 0 5.5 58.89 42.87 0
354.05 9.76 14.12 48.2 1.81 773.02 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4873 0 6 55.38 42.87 0
354.09 9.99 13.83 48.2 1.78 780.28 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.15 213.71 4895 0 6.5 53.43 42.87 0
354.12 9.76 13.4 48.2 1.76 774.47 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.16 214.5 4921 0 6.5 53.04 44.12 0
354.14 9.65 13.26 48.2 1.76 777.37 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4950 0 6.5 53.82 44.12 0
354.18 9.65 13.4 48.2 1.76 780.28 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4990 0 6.5 53.43 44.12 0
354.22 9.76 13.26 48.2 1.74 802.03 39.2 0.06 0.15 0 4.17 216.09 5023 0 7 53.04 44.12 0
354.28 9.65 13.04 48.2 1.74 836.84 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 5033 0 7 52.65 44.74 0
354.32 9.88 12.9 46.4 1.72 826.69 39.2 0.06 0.15 0 4.16 214.5 5016 0 7 54.6 44.74 0
354.35 9.53 12.68 46.4 1.72 812.18 39.2 0.38 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 5105 0 7.5 53.82 44.74 0
354.39 9.42 12.4 46.4 1.71 844.09 39.2 0 0 0 4.18 219.32 5176 0 7.5 53.82 44.74 0
354.41 9.53 12.47 46.4 1.71 883.25 39.2 0.25 0 0 4.19 220.13 5204 0 7.5 53.43 45.98 0
354.45 9.99 12.54 46.4 1.72 833.94 39.2 0 0 0 4.18 217.71 5102 0 7.5 54.99 45.98 0
354.49 9.42 12.68 46.4 1.73 848.44 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.2 221.75 5102 0 7.5 56.55 45.98 0
354.53 9.42 12.61 46.4 1.71 883.25 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.2 222.57 5208 0 8 54.6 45.98 0
354.57 9.53 12.54 46.4 1.7 833.94 39.2 0 0 0 4.21 224.23 5361 0 8 51.48 46.6 0
354.61 9.53 12.54 46.4 1.69 864.39 39.2 0.12 0 0 4.23 226.72 5368 0 8 52.65 46.6 0
354.67 9.53 12.61 46.4 1.71 945.61 39.2 0 0 0 4.24 228.38 5334 0 8 53.43 46.6 0
354.69 9.53 12.68 46.4 1.71 846.99 39.2 0 0 0 4.23 227.55 5353 0 8 52.65 48.47 0
354.73 9.53 11.75 46.4 1.71 909.35 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.22 225.89 5349 0 8 31.98 48.47 0
354.77 9.76 9.17 46.4 1.56 868.75 39.2 0 0 0 3.56 141.48 5233 0 10.5 20.67 48.47 0
354.81 9.19 4.94 46.4 1.17 881.8 39.2 0.31 0 -1.56 2.94 77.55 5212 0 14.5 11.7 48.47 0
354.85 13.78 -4.96 46.4 0.5 1351.7 39.2 0.56 0 -1.56 1.76 11.58 5154 0 25.5 3.51 47.85 0
354.91 27.68 -9.91 46.4 0.17 1360.41 39.2 0.62 0 -1.56 1.4 5.24 5091 0 48.5 2.34 47.85 0
354.93 29.29 -11.85 46.4 0.07 1369.11 39.2 0.31 0 -1.56 1.36 4.37 5016 0 50.5 1.56 47.85 0
354.99 29.29 -12.28 46.4 0.05 1369.11 39.2 0.31 0 2.34 1.32 4.37 4993 0 50 1.56 47.85 0
355.01 29.29 -12.57 46.4 0.05 1374.91 39.2 0.12 0 2.34 1.43 5.46 4924 0 49.5 1.56 48.47 0
355.07 29.29 -12.57 46.4 0.04 1377.81 39.2 0 0 2.34 1.34 4.54 4889 0 48.5 1.56 48.47 0

[DISIindahead]

this is why we tell noobs to SEARCH...there are plenty of stickies that explain all this shit.


READ----> http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...st-read-99499/

[Captain KR]

plenty of peeps in baltimore are going to be willing to help. I can also assist and show you what to do.

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort UPDATE: Well dammit you guys were right! Car was breaking up around 4.5k - 5k in 2nd gear. Only in 2nd gear and only when I can get traction. Almost like it was pulling timing like when traction control kicks on. Tried monitoring boost while driving.... a couple spikes to 18psi but they weren't accompanied by anything unusual. Monitored knock retard... was able to recreate the 2nd gear "surging" which is hard to do without wheelspin now. No knock retard. Hmmm. OK this trying to monitor and drive is fucking impossible. Figured out how the AccessPort logging function works. Finally was able to capture a log with the "default" parameters while the surging was occuring. See below. Bottom line... yes I am seeing (and feeling) the dreaded GenPu low fuel pressure problem grrrrr. Its weird that it only happens in 2nd gear and not all the time. SO NOW WHAT? Who wants to put a better fuel pump on this for me? Who is up to the challenge? Also, does this mean I will be able to run Stage2 maps after I upgrade the pump? Save the "I told you so bullshit" ok? Just help me out here. Thank gawd for the internets and all you peoples. Big props to... YOU Look at the sixth column in. FP starts to tank below 1500psi around 4400rpms with a low of 773psi @4873rpms. I get off the throttle about 9 rows from the bottom (5349rpms) and you see the FP start to recover about 1/5 of a second later. How can the fuel pressure drop that low but still maintain a a/f ratio of 9.x ?? In physical terms, does that mean there is ENOUGH fuel in the combustion chamber but it isn't DISPERSED correctly in terms of a direct injection application and this is causing unusual flame fronts and/or combustion patterns inside the cylinder(s)? Is that the idea here? Time Actual AFR (AFR) Boost (PSI) Boost Air Temp. (? F) Calculated Load (Load) HPFP Act. Press. (PSI) Intake Temp. (? F) Intake Valve Adv. (?) Knock Retard (?) Long Term FT (%) MAF Voltage (V) Mass Airflow (g/s) RPM (RPM) Short Term FT (%) Spark Adv. (?) Throttle Position (%) Vehicle Speed (mph) Wastegate Duty (%) 353.43 9.99 13.26 51.8 1.82 1657.72 37.4 0.12 0.85 0 4.06 199.8 4315 0 4.5 72.93 37.9 30.37 353.47 9.76 13.98 51.8 1.87 1553.3 37.4 0.25 0.85 0 4.08 202.82 4298 0 4 72.93 37.9 24.88 353.51 9.76 14.41 50 1.89 1582.31 37.4 0 0.85 0 4.09 204.36 4383 0 4 72.93 39.15 21.8 353.55 9.76 14.62 50 1.89 1493.84 37.4 0.12 0.85 0 4.1 205.9 4430 0 4 72.93 39.15 21.91 353.61 9.53 14.41 48.2 1.86 1344.45 37.4 0 0.85 0 4.12 208.98 4612 0 4.5 73.32 39.15 25.4 353.65 9.65 14.19 48.2 1.84 1300.94 37.4 0.38 0.85 0 4.14 211.34 4687 0 4.5 73.32 42.25 27.36 353.67 9.53 14.05 48.2 1.82 1295.14 37.4 0.31 0.85 0 4.16 214.5 4729 0 5 73.32 42.25 28.85 353.71 9.65 14.05 48.2 1.82 1228.43 37.4 0.38 0.85 0 4.16 215.29 4786 0 5 73.32 42.25 30.5 353.77 9.53 13.98 48.2 1.82 1158.81 37.4 0.38 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4823 0 6 73.32 42.25 30.46 353.79 9.42 14.05 48.2 1.83 1081.94 37.4 0.12 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4820 0 6 73.71 43.5 28.27 353.83 9.19 14.05 48.2 1.82 1047.14 37.4 0.25 0.15 0 4.19 220.13 4841 0 6 72.54 43.5 19.58 353.89 8.96 14.33 48.2 1.85 942.71 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 4777 0 5.5 67.86 43.5 7.39 353.93 9.07 14.84 48.2 1.88 861.49 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 4717 0 5.5 64.74 43.5 0 353.95 9.3 14.76 48.2 1.86 839.74 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4762 0 5.5 62.01 42.87 0 353.99 9.53 14.62 48.2 1.85 822.34 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.17 216.9 4789 0 5.5 58.89 42.87 0 354.05 9.76 14.12 48.2 1.81 773.02 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4873 0 6 55.38 42.87 0 354.09 9.99 13.83 48.2 1.78 780.28 37.4 0 0.15 0 4.15 213.71 4895 0 6.5 53.43 42.87 0 354.12 9.76 13.4 48.2 1.76 774.47 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.16 214.5 4921 0 6.5 53.04 44.12 0 354.14 9.65 13.26 48.2 1.76 777.37 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4950 0 6.5 53.82 44.12 0 354.18 9.65 13.4 48.2 1.76 780.28 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 4990 0 6.5 53.43 44.12 0 354.22 9.76 13.26 48.2 1.74 802.03 39.2 0.06 0.15 0 4.17 216.09 5023 0 7 53.04 44.12 0 354.28 9.65 13.04 48.2 1.74 836.84 39.2 0 0.15 0 4.18 217.71 5033 0 7 52.65 44.74 0 354.32 9.88 12.9 46.4 1.72 826.69 39.2 0.06 0.15 0 4.16 214.5 5016 0 7 54.6 44.74 0 354.35 9.53 12.68 46.4 1.72 812.18 39.2 0.38 0.15 0 4.19 220.94 5105 0 7.5 53.82 44.74 0 354.39 9.42 12.4 46.4 1.71 844.09 39.2 0 0 0 4.18 219.32 5176 0 7.5 53.82 44.74 0 354.41 9.53 12.47 46.4 1.71 883.25 39.2 0.25 0 0 4.19 220.13 5204 0 7.5 53.43 45.98 0 354.45 9.99 12.54 46.4 1.72 833.94 39.2 0 0 0 4.18 217.71 5102 0 7.5 54.99 45.98 0 354.49 9.42 12.68 46.4 1.73 848.44 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.2 221.75 5102 0 7.5 56.55 45.98 0 354.53 9.42 12.61 46.4 1.71 883.25 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.2 222.57 5208 0 8 54.6 45.98 0 354.57 9.53 12.54 46.4 1.7 833.94 39.2 0 0 0 4.21 224.23 5361 0 8 51.48 46.6 0 354.61 9.53 12.54 46.4 1.69 864.39 39.2 0.12 0 0 4.23 226.72 5368 0 8 52.65 46.6 0 354.67 9.53 12.61 46.4 1.71 945.61 39.2 0 0 0 4.24 228.38 5334 0 8 53.43 46.6 0 354.69 9.53 12.68 46.4 1.71 846.99 39.2 0 0 0 4.23 227.55 5353 0 8 52.65 48.47 0 354.73 9.53 11.75 46.4 1.71 909.35 39.2 0.06 0 0 4.22 225.89 5349 0 8 31.98 48.47 0 354.77 9.76 9.17 46.4 1.56 868.75 39.2 0 0 0 3.56 141.48 5233 0 10.5 20.67 48.47 0 354.81 9.19 4.94 46.4 1.17 881.8 39.2 0.31 0 -1.56 2.94 77.55 5212 0 14.5 11.7 48.47 0 354.85 13.78 -4.96 46.4 0.5 1351.7 39.2 0.56 0 -1.56 1.76 11.58 5154 0 25.5 3.51 47.85 0 354.91 27.68 -9.91 46.4 0.17 1360.41 39.2 0.62 0 -1.56 1.4 5.24 5091 0 48.5 2.34 47.85 0 354.93 29.29 -11.85 46.4 0.07 1369.11 39.2 0.31 0 -1.56 1.36 4.37 5016 0 50.5 1.56 47.85 0 354.99 29.29 -12.28 46.4 0.05 1369.11 39.2 0.31 0 2.34 1.32 4.37 4993 0 50 1.56 47.85 0 355.01 29.29 -12.57 46.4 0.05 1374.91 39.2 0.12 0 2.34 1.43 5.46 4924 0 49.5 1.56 48.47 0 355.07 29.29 -12.57 46.4 0.04 1377.81 39.2 0 0 2.34 1.34 4.54 4889 0 48.5 1.56 48.47 0

All those numbers on my iphone screen...is this the fucking Matrix, hahah!

Excel is the preferred method.

[deadlandxtreme]

Just in case you wanted something to read to scare you into a fuel pump upgrade:
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-my-car-99745/

[fortressofcomfort]

@deadlandxtreme: I would love to see your blown engine but it is in the VIP section. I have not paid yet. Only VIPs can see blown Mazdas

@wdawson4: I might have to take you up on your offer as no one else has responded. I am kind of surprised that you are only one to offer help to a newb. When I had my 2004 Passat the forum folks at Passatworld were much more ready to help each other. I guess its a little different around here.

If anyone else still wants to help guide me through the fuel pump internals process let me know; I do have money and your efforts would not go unrewarded.

[SofaKingAwesome]

in before OP decides he needs a new BOV

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome in before OP decides he needs a new BOV

Lol! But only if there are dynos to prove the gains (in VTA) are legit. Zoom zoom pssshhhhhht ftw!

[deadlandxtreme]

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort @deadlandxtreme: I would love to see your blown engine but it is in the VIP section. I have not paid yet. Only VIPs can see blown Mazdas @wdawson4: I might have to take you up on your offer as no one else has responded. I am kind of surprised that you are only one to offer help to a newb. When I had my 2004 Passat the forum folks at Passatworld were much more ready to help each other. I guess its a little different around here. If anyone else still wants to help guide me through the fuel pump internals process let me know; I do have money and your efforts would not go unrewarded.

Just donate a few bucks. It's worth it to see Mazda's XXX hardcore style. Mine had a big hole, it took a rod and gushed all over the road!

[fortressofcomfort]

OK I just donated $100. It still doesn't say VIP under my name. Next step = avatar acquisition.

I am now able to see the blown motor thread. But it seems no one could absolutely figure out the cause of the bent rod? Maybe prior owner had a 300hp shot of NOS on there?

Regardless, next step is fuel pump upgrade. The RFP is still open if anyone is interested. I'm going to pull the trigger early next week and move forward.

Thanks people.

[SofaKingAwesome]

Welcome! Now that I don't want to kill you, look to your local members for install help and get a PERM/dizzy/etc e-tune. Or hit up CP-e. Please pick boobies for your avatar.

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort OK I just donated $100. It still doesn't say VIP under my name. Next step = avatar acquisition. I am now able to see the blown motor thread. But it seems no one could absolutely figure out the cause of the bent rod? Maybe prior owner had a 300hp shot of NOS on there? Regardless, next step is fuel pump upgrade. The RFP is still open if anyone is interested. I'm going to pull the trigger early next week and move forward. Thanks people.

I think if you used Paypal e-check, it will show VIP when the payment clears. Thanks for donating man. Shit, if I lived on the East Coast I would help you with the fuel pump and bring all my tools and shit.

[Captain KR]

waiting for that pm

[rfinkle2]

I see the column of interest in your post. The gen2 cars dump excess fuel when the pump fails, and it just snowballs from that point.

For reference, your pump pressure should always remain > 1600 psi to avoid any issue with the ecu logic, and I see about 1/2 that pressure in your log (sometimes even less).

Thanks for donating and it looks as if you are on your way to getting plenty of help from the guys.

[zedekias]

Please excuse my noob question.

But is the low fuel pressure from the stage 1 map you're running? Or the SRI and TIH/TIP?

I thought that 9 times out of 10 you wouldn't run into low pressure problems with those mods?

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by zedekias Please excuse my noob question. But is the low fuel pressure from the stage 1 map you're running? Or the SRI and TIH/TIP? I thought that 9 times out of 10 you wouldn't run into low pressure problems with those mods?

I think it's just the combination of things overwhelms the fuel pump. Look at the dyno charts... I picked up a solid 10% increase in power and that is enough to put excessive demands on the fuel system. The logic in the gen2 ECU does not help either; it dumps excessive fuel when it detect knock or overboost and this exaggerates the issue.

Some of the posts lead you to believe that most people are ok and that running into low fuel pressure is the exception to the rule. I would challenge this and say that having the fueling issue is more the rule than the exception.

The veterans will probably have a better explanation.

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 I see the column of interest in your post. The gen2 cars dump excess fuel when the pump fails, and it just snowballs from that point. For reference, your pump pressure should always remain > 1600 psi to avoid any issue with the ecu logic, and I see about 1/2 that pressure in your log (sometimes even less). Thanks for donating and it looks as if you are on your way to getting plenty of help from the guys.

So you don't see the code, you just see blonde, brunette, etc. I apologize to the others...I am a computer programmer by trade and it is 2nd nature for me to read data like that.

[WhoIsJeremy]

Hey dude. I live in white marsh and am pretty involved with the car scene in the area. Agile is great at some points but not in the other. They don't know much about the platform and they get you to spend way too much money. You'll walk in expecting to get A, but they tell you that you need x, y, and z before you can get to a. I didn't read all the post, but the money you give them really can be better spent.

Edit: just saw post where he said he's tuned hundreds of speeds. Not trying to be a dick, but I honestly feel like that number is maybeeeee ten or fifteen. There arent that many in the area and most of them are stock or on here. I've been to a couple of their open houses and have only seen two speeds total. If I was tuned by them, I'd be at their open houses.

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[WhoIsJeremy]

Edit again: now that I had a nice poop that gave me time to read the whole thread. I've done plenty of fuel pump installs if you'd like me to do it or help you out with this. Not to be a dick, but please listen to what people on here have to say. It took me proving to @wdawson4 three times before he believed I knew what I was talking about jk

But seriously, hit me up if you need help dude. Me and Dawson are soon gonna be able to take the whole car apart and back together in an hour after working on these fucks this much.

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[rghispanic88]

LULZ

thanks for donating

hate to say we told you so, but we told you so.

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by WhoIsJeremy Edit again: now that I had a nice poop that gave me time to read the whole thread. I've done plenty of fuel pump installs if you'd like me to do it or help you out with this. Not to be a dick, but please listen to what people on here have to say. It took me proving to @wdawson4 three times before he believed I knew what I was talking about jk But seriously, hit me up if you need help dude. Me and Dawson are soon gonna be able to take the whole car apart and back together in an hour after working on these fucks this much. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

I keep trying to pm you but it's saying you aren't found? Wtf? I just sent wdawson some messages with no issues. Hmmm. Can you pm me so I can just reply?

[WhoIsJeremy]

Originally Posted by fortressofcomfort I keep trying to pm you but it's saying you aren't found? Wtf? I just sent wdawson some messages with no issues. Hmmm. Can you pm me so I can just reply?

I'm a brownie cuz my VIP expired and I'm too broke at the moment to donate again. You can call or text me at 410-382-****.
I'll let you speak through will lol

My pms are full and I can't do anything unless I delete the thousand+ that I have. I'll be back up soon enough.
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[E.rod]

So, if I installed an SRI and TIP do I need to upgrade the FP. Sorry to hack into your post but I have no clue how to start my own thread. Lol I'm also new with this type of car and have no clue where to start with mods. Looks like a fuel pump should be the first one. Lol
Also what do I need to make 300whp? The guys at Cobb in Plano TX told menor would take a turbo upgrade. Let me know. Thanks!

[WhoIsJeremy]

Originally Posted by E.rod So, if I installed an SRI and TIP do I need to upgrade the FP. Sorry to hack into your post but I have no clue how to start my own thread. Lol I'm also new with this type of car and have no clue where to start with mods. Looks like a fuel pump should be the first one. Lol Also what do I need to make 300whp? The guys at Cobb in Plano TX told menor would take a turbo upgrade. Let me know. Thanks!

You can get there with Sri, tip, turbo back exhaust, fuel pump upgrade, and accessport. An upgraded intercooler would help too. I'm not 100% sure the ots map will get you there, but it should? If not, you can get a custom tune and that will def get you there.

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[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by E.rod So, if I installed an SRI and TIP do I need to upgrade the FP. Sorry to hack into your post but I have no clue how to start my own thread. Lol I'm also new with this type of car and have no clue where to start with mods. Looks like a fuel pump should be the first one. Lol Also what do I need to make 300whp? The guys at Cobb in Plano TX told menor would take a turbo upgrade. Let me know. Thanks!

It's ok man, they'll kill you if you start your own thread anyway. It is hard to say if you will run into this issue without the more aggressive maps i.e. Cobb AccessPort. However, you will need to upgrade anyway if you want to make 300whp. I think with what I have plus a fuel pump, downpipe, and stage2 maps, it should make 300whp. Have fun learning with me :-)

[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by WhoIsJeremy You can get there with Sri, tip, turbo back exhaust, fuel pump upgrade, and accessport. An upgraded intercooler would help too. I'm not 100% sure the ots map will get you there, but it should? If not, you can get a custom tune and that will def get you there. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

an exhaust barely does anything, maybe a 5hp increase, if that. you would need a, SRI, TIP, Fuel pump, AP, tune and a test pipe or Downpipe. an upgraded intercooler would be good.

and going with e85 would get you there with less mods

[WhoIsJeremy]

Originally Posted by rghispanic88 an exhaust barely does anything, maybe a 5hp increase, if that. you would need a, SRI, TIP, Fuel pump, AP, tune and a test pipe or Downpipe. an upgraded intercooler would be good. and going with e85 would get you there with less mods

Not to be an ass, but I said turboback. Do you know what that means? Means downpipe, test pipe, and cat back. Let's read better next time.

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[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by WhoIsJeremy Not to be an ass, but I said turboback. Do you know what that means? Means downpipe, test pipe, and cat back. Let's read better next time. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

yeah, but not many noobs know what that means. just trying to break it down.

any person would just read "exhaust" and then go buy a UR exhaust expecting 30hp gain. just saying

[E.rod]

Cool, thanks for the info! I think I will do the FP first. E-85 is hard to come by in the middle of no where TX. But thanks for the heads up. Fort I'll keep checking on this thread so we will be learning together for sure. Ive been a licensed aircraft mechanic for the past 12 years so doing the work on my own shouldn't be a problem but I too have a family and work some long ass hours so I'll probably pay for some of it. Any tuners in here from the Dallas area willing o offer advise and support it will be greatly appreciated.

[rghispanic88]

Originally Posted by E.rod Cool, thanks for the info! I think I will do the FP first. E-85 is hard to come by in the middle of no where TX. But thanks for the heads up. Fort I'll keep checking on this thread so we will be learning together for sure. Ive been a licensed aircraft mechanic for the past 12 years so doing the work on my own shouldn't be a problem but I too have a family and work some long ass hours so I'll probably pay for some of it. Any tuners in here from the Dallas area willing o offer advise and support it will be greatly appreciated.

get an etune here, very easy and great results

no need for anyone to be present

[bigriver]

Originally Posted by E.rod Cool, thanks for the info! I think I will do the FP first. E-85 is hard to come by in the middle of no where TX. But thanks for the heads up. Fort I'll keep checking on this thread so we will be learning together for sure. Ive been a licensed aircraft mechanic for the past 12 years

Jet fuel FTW

Read the sticky in the General section on doing mods in the right progression.

[WhoIsJeremy]

Originally Posted by rghispanic88 yeah, but not many noobs know what that means. just trying to break it down. any person would just read "exhaust" and then go buy a UR exhaust expecting 30hp gain. just saying

Anyone on here should know what turbo back exhaust is. You misread or didn't know the difference, its okay.

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[E.rod]

Cool, how do you go about getting an etune? Bigriver, I'll check it out.
Thanks!

[fortressofcomfort]

Originally Posted by E.rod Cool, how do you go about getting an etune? Bigriver, I'll check it out. Thanks!

From one noob to another: search! Etune is basically an iterative process where you use something like an AccessPort. You start with a given map, could be stock, could be an off-the-shelf map from Cobb, etc. You drive your car around and log the engine data as yo go. You then send that log electronically to a tuner who makes adjustments to the map using computer software. The tuner then sends you back a new map electronically which you upload to your car's ECU.. Then you go drive and log again and the iterations continue until the car runs strong and all the logs look good.

[rghispanic88]

^^ what he said, you tranfer this data via email and he tunes your car according to the data or logs you send him

[fortressofcomfort]

Just ordered the Autotech upgraded internals for the CDFP from EdgeAutoSport woohoo! And I've got a couple people, to remain nameless for now, who are willing to help me through the process.

It's like as soon as I donated everyone stopped being a dick to me :-P

[makjur]

At least nothing has broken completely, right?
Even before you tested this hearsay about HPFP's, i realized from reading around that i shouldnt do anything until i can get a one along with SRI and AP (1,500$ investment)
(and until warranty expires)
thanks for making it even more obvious for me

and grats on the donate love

[Elusivellama]

Autotechs are what I'm going after, in about a month's time or so. Seem like a very good choice.