Thinking of buy Mazdaspeed 3
 

Hi, I'm thinking of purchasing a used Mazdaspeed 3. There are a few things that I want to get cleared before i jump into the market. For reference, my current car is a front wheel drive 03 altima 3.5 V6.

1) From my research it seems that 2010 has improved torque steer with LSD and such.. Does it help at all with the problem?

2) I've tested drive the 1 gen Mazdaspeed 3.. but its been a while for me to drive stick. So i can't do a very good test. But.. how bad really is the torque steer.. its kinda preventing me from buying this car since every review says bad things about it. and can it be reduce with aftermarket parts?

3) Would you recommend buying a 07-09 or a 10-11, 1st gen vs 2nd gen?

4) For 2010-2011 is it possible to have an aftermarket audio header unit installed? (the stock main unit seems to have lots of controls that you can't take off)

5) Do you love driving and tuning it?

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.:Eyecrazy:

Happy April Fools...

Please help me answer some of those questions tho.. :tongue:

Donate and who ever thinks torque steer is to much in this car is a pussy

lol.. i hope i'm not one

Rear motor mount alleviates the torque steer.. Either gen is fun

/thread

gen1>genpu

get a gen1. looks better IMHO. when i shopping around for my speed, i couldnt seem to get past the smile in the genpu. lol

Rear motor mount alleviates the torque steer.. Either gen is fun

/thread

I've owned both, so my $0.02:

The 2nd gen ("Genpu") does have less torque steer than the first gen. The first gen feels more raw, feels faster and looks better. Genpu does have less torque steer and feels more refined. It feels smoother (and also a little slower) and handles a little better.

In either car the torque steer is predictable and very manageable. If you're worried about torque steer, then be a pansy and go buy a GTI.

As far as recommending one over the other: You'll have to drive both and make-up your own mind. Personally, I like my Genpu.

I would agree with that...ive had the genpu/gen1 ms3 i will say this..in 1st and 2nd gear the gen1 feels faster but i like the feeling of the longer gearing in 3rd and 4th gear in the genpu..you can actually appreciate the torque this car puts out :)

Ya know, this is fucking bullshit. You don't hear people bitching about powerful RWD cars and their tendency to fishtail under hard acceleration.

Yet, people go on and on and on about fucking torque steer.

If you can't handle an MS3 at full throttle, you shouldn't be driving a car period.

thanks for the info.
I can't get pass the rounded look of GTI.. :sad:
its good to hear that the torque steer is manageable.. gives me some hope that i can live with it.
I'll try to find a genpu to test drive to feel the difference..

^it's easier/ more efficient to put power down on RWD and/or AWD.......a good example is 1/4 times. Now for the tq. steer in this, it is manageable with your right foot, and you'll get used to it. It's a fun little entry level car....

The torque steer is nothing if you drive like a normal person with 2 hands on the steering wheel. If you drive like a tard at full throttle you will most likely crash if you are not careful. lol. I am surprised nobody has done this yet...or has it happened?

THINKING OF BUYING A MAZDASPEED3

learn to conjugate nub

Did the op put his post through some cheap language translator? WTF I feel stoopider from reading that shit. lol

When you go online and read reviews on the MS3, most people will bitch about the torque steer. Why? Because they aren't use to driving a high-powered FWD car, and the one day that they do test drive it, they are caught off-guard by the torque steer (which is completely and easily manageable) so they bitch about it in their reviews. People who own the MS3 are familiar with how the car responds to putting your right foot down. Personally, I rarely even notice the torque steer anymore. I just naturally grip the steering wheel tighter when I stomp on the throttle. Conclusion: TQ steer in the MS3 is easily manageable; reviewers just bitch about it because they aren't accustomed to it.

As long as your hand is on the wheel you'll be fine...

Two hands on the wheel. Hmmmmm. Just what exactly do you use to shift the fucking tranny? Personally, I've found that even at MY ADVANCED AGE, I have no problem controlling the torque steer with one hand. It's not exactly over powering.

Exactly, I seriously don't get why people bitch about it...it's only a problem if you're punching it and your not grabbing the wheel at all, then you'll find yourself in the other lane....

take right hand off, shift, hand back on wheel

I do the same if I'm flooring it just hold the wheel with two hands. It's not like the car torque steers till redline so when it is time to shift there is no issue holding the wheel with one hand.

Yes, and I don't think ive ever went off a roll from 1st. When in 2nd its not that bad, especially with a stiffer rmm. 3rd hardly has any either. Can't comment on how it feels with an AP, when the 1-3 restriction is gone but its not that it takes you off the side of the road like some people make it seem.

I'm a 66 year-old li'l ol' man of 125 lbs and arms like toothpicks. I've had my Gen 1 for 6-years & 108K miles (since new) and still don't know what all the critics are talking about. I agree that only wussies should be concerned about torque steer. Sure, it's there but one need only be concerned at WOT with the steering wheel at a sharp angle. 99% of the time, I drive with only my right arm with my left arm on the arm rest.

Holy thread bump noob

What kills me is that this thread was created right before he joined...

This post is intended to prospective Speed buyers who have concerns about torque steer.