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JFord 04-29-2013 09:22 PM

Too much oil and a leak
 
I got a oil change the other day from jiffylube.
The next day i noticed some oil on my garage floor.
I checked the dipstick and the oil is to high. It is above the max mark and to the point where the dipstick starts to make the first bend.
I looked under the car and the leak seems to be coming from right where the plastic under pan stops.

My question is, do you think this has damaged anything?

Im taking the car back tomorrow to give them shit. I just want to know how much shit I should give them over this.

Thanks

PPD369Speed3 04-29-2013 09:25 PM

Not sure what type of damage it can do, but this is one reason you should change your own oil.

Other people, especially techs who make 10/hr, don't give a shit about your car.

Probably tappin dat ass

kritz 04-29-2013 09:27 PM

Mistake#1 Jiffylube
Drain oil replace with Pennzoil Platinum or Rottellllllla and a new oil filter. Don't ever go back there.

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Limeybastard 04-29-2013 09:49 PM

Find out where the leak is coming from if you can. Too much oil may cause added pressures which could cause a leak from a gasket somewhere. Generally though it burns off. Take it slow.

Alexander 04-29-2013 09:59 PM

the lube tech probably added too much oil then didnt tighten your filter enough.

Spec 04-29-2013 10:03 PM

Probably didn't wipe it down after replacing filter and is dripping off of the plastic guard.

Why the fuck did you go to jippy lube anyways? Do you not like your car?

kritz 04-29-2013 10:18 PM

Lube tech? Really.

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Spec 04-29-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kritz (Post 2033511)
Lube tech? Really.

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You know, the guy that counts "Mississippi's" while he adds oil.

keymaster 04-29-2013 10:35 PM

The one time I went to Jiffy Lube for an oil change, they overfilled it. This was for a MX-6, where overfilling it is a bad thing...oil leaked through the valve cover gaskets and filled up the spark plug wells. I didn't realize I had an issue until it started misfiring...the oil heated up the plug wires and one of them cracked and was shorting at times. Took it back, had them drain some out and gave them a yelling at, but without any proof the oil caused the wires to go bad they weren't going to admit any fault.

Odds are the higher pressure is causing it to seep. Get the oil level back to where it should be and you should be fine...just look around for other places the oil might have escaped.

And give them a ton of crap...the world would be better if Jiffy Lube went out of business. Everyone has times where they can't change their own oil, but always go to a dealer or mechanic (give them your own oil and filter if you want) and have them do it. It's just not worth it to go to JL...too many people (including me) learn that one the hard way, so get the word out not to do it.

gigliotti175 04-30-2013 04:11 AM

This place is a joke. I went their with my wife's car (ford fusion sport) and had them change my oil. They offer a 10% military discount since I'm next to a base. By the time they had done everything it was a damn near 90 bill. Thanks for the 10% asshole.

Another story, same jiffy lube. My buddy went there to get oil change in his rsx, they put the wrong oil in, he noticed before they even took the car out of the shop. Had them drain the oil, push it out of shop. Then he proceeds to walk to the nearest autozone to get his own. Jiffy lube tried calling the cops on him for nonpayment of services but since the oil was already drained the cop couldn't do anything.


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Tokay444 04-30-2013 04:29 AM

it's your rear main seal bro.

GODspeed7 04-30-2013 04:35 AM

I used to work at jiffy lube and the stories I could tell you would make you sick!


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gigliotti175 04-30-2013 04:41 AM

Story time!?!


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BigBoostMS3 04-30-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 (Post 2033661)
I used to work at jiffy lube and the stories I could tell you would make you sick!


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In Naperville? I used to work at the one on Ogden at Naperville road. What a fucking joke that place was. The pit guy changed maybe 50% of the filters, the rest he just left. If the filter was the same brand we used, it was NOT changed.

As far as oil goes, they had a oil pump thing that had a counter on it which made it hard to overfill. If they're using quarts then after 6 the guy should have had the brains to stop.

Place is a fucking joke. If you absolutely refuse to do it yourself, at least take it to the dealer or a shop you know you can trust.

GODspeed7 04-30-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBoostMS3 (Post 2033800)
In Naperville? I used to work at the one on Ogden at Naperville road. What a fucking joke that place was. The pit guy changed maybe 50% of the filters, the rest he just left. If the filter was the same brand we used, it was NOT changed.

As far as oil goes, they had a oil pump thing that had a counter on it which made it hard to overfill. If they're using quarts then after 6 the guy should have had the brains to stop.

Place is a fucking joke. If you absolutely refuse to do it yourself, at least take it to the dealer or a shop you know you can trust.

No used to work at the Joliet mall one and the Joliet one off of Jefferson st. I saw my manager insist on doing the trans fluid change on a classic camaro because we were all too incompetent to do it. Well needless to say about 2 weeks later my manager almost got punched in the face by the cars owner for forgetting to put the fluid back in after he drained it.
I have also seen the never ending oil filter trick before and I hate to say it but have actually done that myself. Customer was being a dick and impatient and his oil filter was right above the hot ass exhaust manifold so that is where that fucker stayed.
We used to write "have a nice day asshole" on the oil filters until one guy brought his filter back.
People would drive off without their oil caps.
Overfills, under fills, no fills. You name it i have seen it.


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Jooky 04-30-2013 07:47 AM

Wife took her S40 in years ago and the "tech" didn't put a crush washer back on the drain plug. Drove the car to VA beach with oil slowly leaking out and covering everything on the undercarriage, ass end and any unfortunate SOB behind us all the way out. Oil light came on just as we were pulling into town. Long story short, paid for the labor and materials twice (had another shop fix the Jiffy Screw job in VA Beach) as Jiffy Screw claimed absolutely no responsibility for it. Made us go outside the customer waiting area to even discuss it with the manager. Never again.

crankshaft 04-30-2013 09:24 AM

I'm 45 years old, and for the 1st time EVER I had a tire shop change the oil in my old beater last year only becuse I had some coupon that made it cheaper than doing it myself (plus it was a Saturn). They over filled it and used the wrong weight oil. No damage, but it was a good reminder why I've gone 30 years changing my own....and those clowns certainly aren't touching a car that cost me 16 times as much.

RLam 04-30-2013 09:35 AM

I don't know if I'm crazy, but the oil seems to make it's way to the pan slowly in these motors. I always add 5 quarts, wait 15 minutes, check again, add, wait more, top off. Also, oil must be added on a level surface. My first change on stands resulted in 1/4 quart overfill. Never had this issue on my other cars.

DVM17 04-30-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLam (Post 2034206)
I don't know if I'm crazy, but the oil seems to make it's way to the pan slowly in these motors. I always add 5 quarts, wait 15 minutes, check again, add, wait more, top off. Also, oil must be added on a level surface. My first change on stands resulted in 1/4 quart overfill. Never had this issue on my other cars.

You're not crazy, I check mine like 20 times after filling it with 5 quarts so I can slowly add more to get it perfectly on max. lol

keymaster 04-30-2013 10:05 AM

Don't put this shit in your engine, fix the leak properly.

JFord 04-30-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2033659)
it's your rear main seal bro.

Think the seal is shot?

Tokay444 04-30-2013 10:20 AM

have you drained the excess and still have a leak?

kritz 04-30-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keymaster (Post 2034281)
Don't put this shit in your engine, fix the leak properly.

Forgot to hit the sarcastic button! lol

drillbitmoore 04-30-2013 10:45 AM

there was one place that i went to a few times -- they would actually bring you out, start up the car, turn off the car and then show you the dipstick to show the new oil and the amount that was in there -- then you would have to sign off to show that they did, in fact, show you the dipstick -- did they change the filter? i sure as fuck hope so - but i had no way of telling, really

but those were only times when i had the money and i didnt have the time to change it myself

Advance Auto is having a sale right now until May 1 - its like $33 for 5qt of synthetic and a filter

jco 04-30-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVM17 (Post 2034221)
You're not crazy, I check mine like 20 times after filling it with 5 quarts so I can slowly add more to get it perfectly on max. lol

My OCD makes me do that too.

TurboGsxr600 04-30-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFord (Post 2034310)
Think the seal is shot?

Pretty sure he was kidding lol

intotheice 04-30-2013 05:16 PM

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[R]usty 04-30-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFord (Post 2033414)
I got a oil change the other day from jiffylube.
The next day i noticed some oil on my garage floor.
I checked the dipstick and the oil is to high. It is above the max mark and to the point where the dipstick starts to make the first bend.
I looked under the car and the leak seems to be coming from right where the plastic under pan stops.

My question is, do you think this has damaged anything?

Im taking the car back tomorrow to give them shit. I just want to know how much shit I should give them over this.

Thanks

No jiffylube. Ever. Ever. Those guys could give a fuck if the ruined your engine. My girlfriend use to take her Civic there in college they fucked up 2 times out of the 2 times she went there (2 separate locations). The first they were a quart low on oil and forgot to change the damn oil filter. The next time they stripped the damn oil pan bolt and somehow managed to get a freaking bolt in the oil pan (luckily the magnet caught it and no damage was done). Do it yourself. It is s easy and only takes 10 mins to do. Also, you don't what that crap oil and filter they use. Buy quality oil penzoil, rotella, or mobil1 and a quailty filter WIX, Purolator, K&N or Napa (NOT FRAM, EVER... Seriously).

Tokay444 04-30-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboGsxr600 (Post 2034668)
Pretty sure he was kidding lol

Nope. Excess oil means excess oil pressure. Excess oil pressure will very well blow out the rear main seal.

Badinfluence 04-30-2013 06:43 PM

I get mine changed at a Mazda dealer because it shows in the service system that you changed it at an interval. This way if something fails Mazda can't refuse to pay for it and say fuck off. Some of the tsbs request oil change intervals and records. If the dealer does them and lets say your k04 does what they do, they can't pass off the blame on that one.

skeeter149 04-30-2013 07:00 PM

Probably residual oil, or at least I hope so but please drain excess oil

GODspeed7 04-30-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2035492)
Also, you don't what that crap oil and filter they use. Buy quality oil penzoil, rotella, or mobil1 and a quailty filter WIX, Purolator, K&N or Napa (NOT FRAM, EVER... Seriously).

Did you just call Mobil 1 quality oil?!?!


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motherfnmonsta 04-30-2013 07:56 PM

Sorry had to groan you just for the fact you went to jiffy lube. lesson here is do it your self, it is not hard to do, go to walmart purchase two jugs of rotella t6 drain oil install good oil filter, pour in a jug a half of the oil start car and re check, see that is simple no need to pay high school drop out to do your oil change.

JFord 04-30-2013 09:47 PM

i went back today and they drained some of the oil out. It is now at the max mark.
They let me go below the car and take a look. It doesnt look like anything is leaking.
But there was a bunch of oil sitting on top of the plastic skid plate.
I think when they drained it they got oil all over the top of the skid plate. And it was dripping off.

I definitely learned my lesson. I will never go back there. The guy tried to give me a $15 coupon and I told him I would never be back.

I have done all the work on my car myself. Even my internals. Im just scared of spilling oil all over my garage floor.

Tokay444 05-01-2013 10:13 AM

i don't know how the pu skid plate fits, but it's next to impossible to get oil on it in a won, from the drain.

faeker 05-01-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2036693)
i don't know how the pu skid plate fits, but it's next to impossible to get oil on it in a won, from the drain.

Ours ends right at the drain so while its not likely to get a lot if oil on it, you can get some.

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crankshaft 05-01-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFord (Post 2035888)
i went back today and they drained some of the oil out. It is now at the max mark.
They let me go below the car and take a look. It doesnt look like anything is leaking.
But there was a bunch of oil sitting on top of the plastic skid plate.
I think when they drained it they got oil all over the top of the skid plate. And it was dripping off.

I definitely learned my lesson. I will never go back there. The guy tried to give me a $15 coupon and I told him I would never be back.

I have done all the work on my car myself. Even my internals. Im just scared of spilling oil all over my garage floor.

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keymaster 05-01-2013 01:34 PM

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Make sure to get the adaptor. I use the long nipple version so I can attach a hose and run the oil directly into a container, but the other ones will work as well. Add the tray above for when you have to take the filter off...drain the filter housing into your oil collector with the pan under it in case of spills. No mess, no fuss.

It's different if you just don't have a place to do the work on your car, or if you rent and they don't allow it. If you can't find a friend to let you do the work, then you're stuck going to a place to have it done for you. That place should never imply they do it fast...you can get things done cheap, fast or good, and if you select fast and cheap then it's never good.

Spec 05-01-2013 03:07 PM

From that picture, it looks very risky running a quick drain. Too little benefit for too much risk IMO.


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