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Default Torque steer?

Not sure what all the fuss is all about. Broke into the engine nicely. Now when I rag it a couple of times to 5.5k rpm I notice no torque steer. Wtf?
Did mazda make a change in the 13 MY ? I doubt it.
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With only upgraded shocks and springs my 2008 has minimal to no torque steer at all even if I slam the acceleration in 2nd gear (I have load targets of 1.9-2.0x above 4k rpm in 2nd and hit them with minimal tire squeak around/above 6100-6200rpm, so no factory 0-60 limitations in place).

So since the genpu is a bit better from the factory and significantly stiffer I see no reason for having torque steer unless you choose a very bad tire+wheel setup.
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Not sure what all the fuss is all about. Broke into the engine nicely. Now when I rag it a couple of times to 5.5k rpm I notice no torque steer. Wtf?
Did mazda make a change in the 13 MY ? I doubt it.
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you are load limited the first 2 gears, try slammin 3rd at 3500 on a cold day.. Mine pulls pretty hard, I'll change over two lanes if I dont hold, that or my tires will just spin.. (im around 2.14ish load(unscaled)
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you are load limited the first 2 gears, try slammin 3rd at 3500 on a cold day.. Mine pulls pretty hard, I'll change over two lanes if I dont hold, that or my tires will just spin.. (im around 2.14ish load(unscaled)
I did and no torque steer.
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just got my 2013 yesterday...i was also surprised by how much torque steer it does NOT have
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Only faggots bring up torque steer.

You don't hear RWD guys complaining about fishtailing.
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And yet you have still to answer my question.
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Msf has been infiltrated by a slew of fucking morons this last month. If you dont get any torque steer be happy.

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Msf has been infiltrated by a slew of fucking morons this last month. If you dont get any torque steer be happy.

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I have had a number of high torque fwd vehicles, for what it is the MS3 does a good job of trying to limit the effects, especially in 1st and 2nd gears, this is one of the reasons why from a dig a lot of stop light racers will get a lead on you, the ECU is limiting how much makes it to the wheels..

Though I believe it is possible to bolt on some gear and remove most if not all (RMM, helical LSD) it is manageable as long as you use your head, this brings me to my second point.

If you have not specifically added parts to address TS and you don't have it, you simply haven't pushed your car to its abilities, in stock form with the only good for dry dun laps I have shifted half a lane while actively countering it....


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its because the 2013s are rwd silly people….
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nothing changed on the 2013 except the freaking wheels, the cars are the same, the pcm part number is the same they have the same calibration etc. I have massive tourqe steer to where it will almost rip the steering wheel out of my hand but I dont complain cause its a race car right?
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I havn't noticed any, but then again, Ive only put 300 miles on it so far and havn't pushed it yet. How many miles do you have and how hard are you pushing it?
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who cares about torque steer. u hold the wheel when u go fast i would hope in any situation, problem (if there was one) solved. motor mounts will help resolve this "issue" if you ever experience it
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I had TS, until I put my RMM in. It's mostly gone, I can still feel the car wanting to yank sideways. Before I had the RMM, the car would change lanes for me.
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ugh, im just teasing. but enough of that.

you guys are power limited in lower gears to prevent torque steering into a tree.

unfortunately it takes an AP and some way of disabling SWAS to counter that.
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This is the guy who left our Tampa FB group, calling the NATOR members "a bunch of juvenile twats". So I honestly don't expect anything of quality from him.
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This is the guy who left our Tampa FB group, calling the NATOR members "a bunch of juvenile twats". So I honestly don't expect anything of quality from him.
sounds like a real douche nugget!
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This is the guy who left our Tampa FB group, calling the NATOR members "a bunch of juvenile twats". So I honestly don't expect anything of quality from him.

I don't recall using them choice of words. Either way, sex it up how you want to.
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This is the guy who left our Tampa FB group, calling the NATOR members "a bunch of juvenile twats". So I honestly don't expect anything of quality from him.
Why do you sound offended? Nator is juvenile, and everyone takes everything in life far too seriously. I love my circle jerk juvenile group of docking faggots. If he doesn't want to be part of our faggotry then fuck him. He's the one losing out...
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Why do you sound offended? Nator is juvenile, and everyone takes everything in life far too seriously. I love my circle jerk juvenile group of docking faggots. If he doesn't want to be part of our faggotry then fuck him. He's the one losing out...
Lol, I'm not offended. I just think it's funny, because that's what NATOR is.
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Why do you sound offended? Nator is juvenile, and everyone takes everything in life far too seriously. I love my circle jerk juvenile group of docking faggots. If he doesn't want to be part of our faggotry then fuck him. He's the one losing out...

Cwp, you are correct I would be missing out hence I did that massive edit in the nator sub forum and if you guys are upset with me then well ill just deal with it. Hope we can be friends again x
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winter tires make TS go away, its replaced by lots of wheel slip

general tire altimax arctics - 255/45R17
havnt died in snow or ice yet so i guess their good
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Get BT, put in 3rd, go full retard.
"You never go full retard"
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"You never go full retard"
No I definately went full retard once...doing a pull showing the gf what torque steer was....so completely let go and punched it....almost went into he curb from two lanes over, corrected quick and got oversteer, and corrected again. I played it off like I boss, when I had really just shit my pants. Car that was couple hundred yards behind was all flashing his brights at me.
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No I definately went full retard once...doing a pull showing the gf what torque steer was....so completely let go and punched it....almost went into he curb from two lanes over, corrected quick and got oversteer, and corrected again. I played it off like I boss, when I had really just shit my pants. Car that was couple hundred yards behind was all flashing his brights at me.
and then the sirens went on :P gotta love mashing the gas and crapping your pants at the same time lol.
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"You never go full retard"
I thought you guys said I did that when I bought a pu? If not, I dwfinately did by buying a second one lol
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I can't believe the level of faggotry that is unfolding in this thread.

You guys really need to learn to handle your fucking steeds.
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No I definately went full retard once...doing a pull showing the gf what torque steer was....so completely let go and punched it....almost went into he curb from two lanes over, corrected quick and got oversteer, and corrected again. I played it off like I boss, when I had really just shit my pants. Car that was couple hundred yards behind was all flashing his brights at me.
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and then the sirens went on :P gotta love mashing the gas and crapping your pants at the same time lol.
Miss the movie reference, maybe?

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lmao... ya missed that one... never go full retard... otherwise you end up like me
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