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Default What kind of intake do I have? Good or Bad?!?

I bought a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 last June from a dealership (well financed but definitely gonna pay this baby off) anyways it came with a SRI intake but itís not Cobb, CS, CPE or JBR none of the brands I see everyone else getting or has. Mine does say Mazdaspeed on the intake and itís like a legit metal badge on there itís aluminum pipe not the silicone type I see from everyone else but Iíve search everywhere and Iím unable to find this intake I just wanna know if itís an authentic good intake or if I should be looking to get a jbr or one of the other brands. Mind you it is fitted up properly with mad sensor and all hoses are connected no cel or any problem I just wanna know itís this is an intake that will give me a good power output.
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Sounds like aem Mazdaspeed certified intake

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Sounds like aem Mazdaspeed certified intake

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The badge on it is exactly like that even the piping but itís not a cai itís a sri so itís this legit. Is it a good or bad intake?


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Post a pic. I have the Mazdaspeed CAI sourced from AEM. But, when you convert to SRI, I'm not sure the label would be visible.
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Post a pic. I have the Mazdaspeed CAI sourced from AEM. But, when you convert to SRI, I'm not sure the label would be visible.


I will take a pic tomorrow and post it I currently donít have one on my phone


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Mine looks quite different than the one above. Here is an old b&w pic of mine. If yours is like this you can attach the filter to the tube that has the Mazdaspeed emblem.
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Mine looks quite different than the one above. Here is an old b&w pic of mine. If yours is like this you can attach the filter to the tube that has the Mazdaspeed emblem.


Sorry I donít see the pic


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You were posting while it was uploading. Should be there in a minute. Slow to upload. I'll find a better pic and post tomorrow.
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You were posting while it was uploading. Should be there in a minute. Slow to upload. I'll find a better pic and post tomorrow.


Ok cool thanks and I will also take a pic of mine tomo and post it


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You were posting while it was uploading. Should be there in a minute. Slow to upload. I'll find a better pic and post tomorrow.


Hey I took a couple pics of my intake. You canít fully see that Iíd say Mazdaspeed because I bought a new filter but it was a littler bigger than what I needed so I just pushed it on and tightened it till it held on IMG_1752.JPGIMG_1750.JPGIMG_1751.JPG


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It's a fine intake, should have a maf straightener installed unless PO removed it. Will work out for you, a different/larger intake won't make a difference unless you're going big turbo
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Yes, that appears to be an authentic Mazdaspeed CAI, at least the rear part of it. To get accurate MAF reading you need that plastic air straightener that goes inside the housing right after your SRI filter. This controls airflow across the MAF sensor just behind it. It is important. It directs the air column to cross the MAF sensor in a pre-determined way and reduces tube turbulence. You will not get optimum performance without it and those running without it have reported getting CEL for too lean at idle.

You can buy one from AEM or a number of vendors.

Also there should be a silicone coupler between the aluminum tube and your filter, rather than bolting the filter directly to the aluminum. Silicone couplers are available from most well-stocked auto parts stores. Be sure to match the outside diameter of the aluminum tube.

Are you able to contact the former owner for those parts?

Here is the AEM air straightner. Many vendors still have it or you can probably get it from AEM. Should be around $20 or thereabout. Frankly, I would not run the car wide open throttle without the air straighter in place just ahead of the MAF.
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It's a fine intake, should have a maf straightener installed unless PO removed it. Will work out for you, a different/larger intake won't make a difference unless you're going big turbo


Ok thank you, sounds good. I think I should probably change my filter to one that actually fits might be getting a leak or something


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Yes, that appears to be an authentic Mazdaspeed CAI, at least the rear part of it. To get accurate MAF reading you need that plastic air straightener that goes inside the housing right after your SRI filter. This controls airflow across the MAF sensor just behind it. It is important. It directs the air column to cross the MAF sensor in a pre-determined way and reduces tube turbulence. You will not get optimum performance without it and those running without it have reported getting CEL for too lean at idle.

You can buy one from AEM or a number of vendors.

Also there should be a silicone coupler between the aluminum tube and your filter, rather than bolting the filter directly to the aluminum. Silicone couplers are available from most well-stocked auto parts stores. Be sure to match the outside diameter of the aluminum tube.

Are you able to contact the former owner for those parts?

Here is the AEM air straightner. Many vendors still have it or you can probably get it from AEM. Should be around $20 or thereabout. Frankly, I would not run the car wide open throttle without the air straighter in place just ahead of the MAF.


So the way my intake is now is bad? I kinda noticed that my intake looks exactly like yours as if it is suppose to be a CAI but as if it was stop short and the filter was just added on instead of the rest of the piping for the CAI. Is this also bad? And my friend just bought a Cobb SRI with TIP and his didnít come with an air straightener it was just TIP and Intake and filter. Also I donít ever really get CEL at idle or driving I got one once when I tuned to Stage 2 OTS COBB map for running lean but I cleared it changed the map back to stage 1+ and no problems since. Also I have ordered a TIP it should be hear in a few days what difference will that make to turbo sound will it be much different from just intake does TIP also affect driving like does it make it smoother or more torquier?


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Yes, that appears to be an authentic Mazdaspeed CAI, at least the rear part of it. To get accurate MAF reading you need that plastic air straightener that goes inside the housing right after your SRI filter. This controls airflow across the MAF sensor just behind it. It is important. It directs the air column to cross the MAF sensor in a pre-determined way and reduces tube turbulence. You will not get optimum performance without it and those running without it have reported getting CEL for too lean at idle.

You can buy one from AEM or a number of vendors.

Also there should be a silicone coupler between the aluminum tube and your filter, rather than bolting the filter directly to the aluminum. Silicone couplers are available from most well-stocked auto parts stores. Be sure to match the outside diameter of the aluminum tube.

Are you able to contact the former owner for those parts?

Here is the AEM air straightner. Many vendors still have it or you can probably get it from AEM. Should be around $20 or thereabout. Frankly, I would not run the car wide open throttle without the air straighter in place just ahead of the MAF.


Does it make more sense to just buy the rest of the piping and make it a full CAI again? Or should I buy the air straightener and coupler, will this give me proper power output or should I just buy a new SRI? Iím scared of having full CAI cause I heard you could hydrolock your engine if itís a really rainy day or driving thru puddles. But being cost efficient is also a thing so if making buy the air straightener and coupler will give me good power output like a Cobb Sri or JBR then I will get that stuff


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Yes, that appears to be an authentic Mazdaspeed CAI, at least the rear part of it. To get accurate MAF reading you need that plastic air straightener that goes inside the housing right after your SRI filter. This controls airflow across the MAF sensor just behind it. It is important. It directs the air column to cross the MAF sensor in a pre-determined way and reduces tube turbulence. You will not get optimum performance without it and those running without it have reported getting CEL for too lean at idle.

You can buy one from AEM or a number of vendors.

Also there should be a silicone coupler between the aluminum tube and your filter, rather than bolting the filter directly to the aluminum. Silicone couplers are available from most well-stocked auto parts stores. Be sure to match the outside diameter of the aluminum tube.

Are you able to contact the former owner for those parts?

Here is the AEM air straightner. Many vendors still have it or you can probably get it from AEM. Should be around $20 or thereabout. Frankly, I would not run the car wide open throttle without the air straighter in place just ahead of the MAF.


Also I was just looking where can I find the AEM air straightener Iíve been looking I live in Canada so trying to find it cost efficiently as well as Iím not sure that the couple that Iím suppose to put before the filter looks like? Since you have the same intake as me could you tell me what size coupler Iím looking for idk the sizing specs for the piping or filter or anything if you could give me a hand that would be really appreciated


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Yes, that appears to be an authentic Mazdaspeed CAI, at least the rear part of it. To get accurate MAF reading you need that plastic air straightener that goes inside the housing right after your SRI filter. This controls airflow across the MAF sensor just behind it. It is important. It directs the air column to cross the MAF sensor in a pre-determined way and reduces tube turbulence. You will not get optimum performance without it and those running without it have reported getting CEL for too lean at idle.

You can buy one from AEM or a number of vendors.

Also there should be a silicone coupler between the aluminum tube and your filter, rather than bolting the filter directly to the aluminum. Silicone couplers are available from most well-stocked auto parts stores. Be sure to match the outside diameter of the aluminum tube.

Are you able to contact the former owner for those parts?

Here is the AEM air straightner. Many vendors still have it or you can probably get it from AEM. Should be around $20 or thereabout. Frankly, I would not run the car wide open throttle without the air straighter in place just ahead of the MAF.


How would I know if I already have the AEM Air Straightener?


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If you remove your filter, you should be looking right at the straighter. It fits inside the front of the same tube that has the MAF sensor. It also has an arrow on it that orients it. The arrow should point straight up.

This air straightener is important. I can't over emphazise it. When Mazda first released the CAI they left out the straightner. They had problems and had to recall all of them and retrofit the ones sold.

You will not have correct air metering without it, whether you throw a code or not.

Check with AEM is you can't find an Internet vendor that can ship to Canada affordably.

If you are stage 2 AP, with a 3" downpipe, then you really need the straightener as it is essential for your to do your MAF cal. Everything in the tune is based off an accurate cal. You are flowing more air both intake and exhaust. Get it right.

As to your SRI filter not fitting correctly, that can be fatal. Drawing unfiltered air into the system coats your piston rings and cylinder walls with the dust, dirt and debris. It also contaminates your oil and has that abrasive stuff in the oil that is circulating in the crank bearings and in the turbo center shaft bearings. An engine pulling in unfiltered air is not long for this world if left uncorrected. Just saying . . .

As to TIP, opinions vary. I don't think aftermarket TIPs are a good investment and I never got one. Despite its pancake shape, the stock TIP flows better than the stock K04 can use. No power gains there if you still have the stock turbo. Maybe a slightly quicker spool, but this is a K04. It already has lightening quick spool.

Running the CAI in SRI mode is not a bad thing. I ran mine that way for a while as an experiment and then went back to CAI mode for my own reasons, not relevant here. Don't want to get into another endless CAI vs. SRI debate that has no clear answer.

Running it with the air straightener so you can do an accurate MAF cal. and without sucking in unfiltered air is what is important.
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I just pulled apart my intake and took pictures I donít think I have the air straightener. But I will get whatever I need to make my car run properly here are the pics. I also found the air straightener on amazon for 20 CAD. Iím still not sure what coupler Iím going to need to attach the filter to the end sri pipe IMG_1753.JPGIMG_1754.JPGIMG_1755.JPGIMG_1756.JPGIMG_1757.JPG


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Yep, no straightener.

You might get by without the silicone coupler (with two clamps, see my pic), if you can get a filter that fits tight so that NO air gets sucked in that is unfiltered.

I am attaching AEM's actual pictorial instructions for the intake. There are part numbers shown. You might consider contacting AEM to see if they can supply what you need or want. I'm amazed that I still had that in the computer folder for my MS3. Digital packrat, I guess. Maybe it helps you and someone else.
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If you remove your filter, you should be looking right at the straighter. It fits inside the front of the same tube that has the MAF sensor. It also has an arrow on it that orients it. The arrow should point straight up.



This air straightener is important. I can't over emphazise it. When Mazda first released the CAI they left out the straightner. They had problems and had to recall all of them and retrofit the ones sold.



You will not have correct air metering without it, whether you throw a code or not.



Check with AEM is you can't find an Internet vendor that can ship to Canada affordably.



If you are stage 2 AP, with a 3" downpipe, then you really need the straightener as it is essential for your to do your MAF cal. Everything in the tune is based off an accurate cal. You are flowing more air both intake and exhaust. Get it right.



As to your SRI filter not fitting correctly, that can be fatal. Drawing unfiltered air into the system coats your piston rings and cylinder walls with the dust, dirt and debris. It also contaminates your oil and has that abrasive stuff in the oil that is circulating in the crank bearings and in the turbo center shaft bearings. An engine pulling in unfiltered air is not long for this world if left uncorrected. Just saying . . .



As to TIP, opinions vary. I don't think aftermarket TIPs are a good investment and I never got one. Despite its pancake shape, the stock TIP flows better than the stock K04 can use. No power gains there if you still have the stock turbo. Maybe a slightly quicker spool, but this is a K04. It already has lightening quick spool.



Running the CAI in SRI mode is not a bad thing. I ran mine that way for a while as an experiment and then went back to CAI mode for my own reasons, not relevant here. Don't want to get into another endless CAI vs. SRI debate that has no clear answer.



Running it with the air straightener so you can do an accurate MAF cal. and without sucking in unfiltered air is what is important.


Ok thank you so much I will order the Air Straightener right now. As for installation do I just push the air straightener into the pipe before the filter goes on or is there a specific process to this? My car is 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 with Intake TIP on its way, JBR RMM, COBB AP tuned on Stage 1, testpipe, res and muffler delete and jbr short shift plate oh and stage 1 colder spark plugs from ngk. Planning to get HPFP internals then catless dp then front mount intercooler as well as driver side tranny mount.


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It goes before the MAF sensor where it rests on its own lip. Then you pull the hose over it and clamp her down. From there it will hold itself. I have the Mazdaspeed CAI. It works the same for both.
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It goes before the MAF sensor where it rests on its own lip. Then you pull the hose over it and clamp her down. From there it will hold itself. I have the Mazdaspeed CAI. It works the same for both.


Ok so if Iím understanding you right it goes where the turbo inlet pipe coupler connects to the intake ? So at the top of the intake pipe or at the bottom on the intake pipe where filter goes on? Before the maf sensor would mean the top where the turbo inlet pipe coupler meets the intake pipe or after the sensor where the intake filter goes on to the pipe?


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Ok so if Iím understanding you right it goes where the turbo inlet pipe coupler connects to the intake ? So at the top of the intake pipe or at the bottom on the intake pipe where filter goes on? Before the maf sensor would mean the top where the turbo inlet pipe coupler meets the intake pipe or after the sensor where the intake filter goes on to the pipe?


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Dude, first slow down a little.
You're a scatter brain, and that's okay, but its hard to read if you don't try to slow it down when you type...
Paragraphs will help us immensely, and you... since more people will likely read them.

The straightener will have an arrow, like mentioned above, put the arrow facing your turbo. The straightener will go after the filter, but before the maf.

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Yep, no straightener.

You might get by without the silicone coupler (with two clamps, see my pic), if you can get a filter that fits tight so that NO air gets sucked in that is unfiltered.

I am attaching AEM's actual pictorial instructions for the intake. There are part numbers shown. You might consider contacting AEM to see if they can supply what you need or want. I'm amazed that I still had that in the computer folder for my MS3. Digital packrat, I guess. Maybe it helps you and someone else.


Thank you. I donít think it uploaded though.


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Dude, first slow down a little.
You're a scatter brain, and that's okay, but its hard to read if you don't try to slow it down when you type...
Paragraphs will help us immensely, and you... since more people will likely read them.

The straightener will have an arrow, like mentioned above, put the arrow facing your turbo. The straightener will go after the filter, but before the maf.

All good?


Sorry about that Iím a noob to forums haha. I will start responding better and thinking before I write. Thank you


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Yea I think I got it now. So it goes in the intake pipe between the intake filter and the maf sensor?

The arrow will direct me which way it goes but from how it looks seems like it could only go 2 ways because of the groove they made to fit the maf sensor.

I figured something was wrong with my car it felt sluggish and sometimes I would rev it and the rpms would die and come back and it just doesnít drive how I feel like it should.

Thank you guys for your help I would not of known this and would of continued to drive my car crazy. Probably would of messed it up. I have ordered the Airflow Straightener from gotboostinc they have the best price I had to get it shipped to my mom who lives in Florida and then she will ship it to me in Canada. Till then I will not WOT my car anymore and I will baby it until I get that part.


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Late to the party but that's definitely the Mazdaspeed branded, AEM produced CAI. My car had one when I bought it (also sans air straightener). I can't imagine you'll have any issues running it as an SRI without the lower pipe. As others have said, just slap the straightener in between the filter and MAF (iirc, the fins on the straightener should run vertically, with the MAF sensor dangley bit sitting directly in between them) and G2G
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Do I have to remove my maf sensor first, then put the air straightener in, then put the maf back in or does it just slide in there without removing maf sensor?


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Just take off the filter and pop it in, shouldn't have to mess with the MAF.
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Ok perfect thank you I canít wait to get it. Does it make driving any better?


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Hey guys I been busy but finally got around to taking that video of me taking my intake filter off and putting it back on. Can you guys please let me know if itís ok or if I should get another one. Itís a 3Ē vibrant filter


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Hey guys just a quick update I finally received my air straightener and installed it mins ago canít wait to see the difference in the performance and the way the car runs. I installed it like this so just double checking that itís fine.


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You wont see a huge performance gain or anything, so don't get your hopes up on face melting power. In fact I wager to say you'll gain <1 HP. Looks installed right

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You wont see a huge performance gain or anything, so don't get your hopes up on face melting power. In fact I wager to say you'll gain <1 HP. Looks installed right

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Ok ok thanks I figured itís not gonna give me much gain but I did read that it makes car more responsive and ltft will be better just overall more smooth?

And LOL I was in the middle of doing laundry and straightening up when I got the packages so I paused and ripped those suckers open and went to install.


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Ok ok thanks I figured itís not gonna give me much gain but I did read that it makes car more responsive and ltft will be better just overall more smooth?

And LOL I was in the middle of doing laundry and straightening up when I got the packages so I paused and ripped those suckers open and went to install.


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