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jam3v 10-03-2011 01:18 PM

What are people REALLY paying for a Speed3?
 
I test drove a 2011 a while back, and I need a car right now. I used to drive a Mazda 3 iSport Sedan. I rolled it and it saved my life. Not a scratch on me.

Looking at the Speed3's now. A couple of my friends own one. But I'm wondering...

What should I expect to pay? Invoice on a base is around $24k, but I see people saying they paid around $21 w/ tech package... Is this common?

Maybe existing owners can chime in with what they paid to help new buyers decide and negotiate.

Please include price BEFORE tax/title/dealer BS.

Wolfgang5884 10-03-2011 01:38 PM

IMO, these are good prices.
w/o tech - $21,800
w/ tech - $24,000

Unless you know someone at the dealer.

Ex_WRX_driver 10-03-2011 01:38 PM

There are threads, many threads that cover this.

TRex 10-03-2011 01:40 PM

fuck that....look at interest

me? getting anally raped....payments are 523/mo over 5 years.....that is $31380

Rich-PMS 10-03-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1069476)
fuck that....look at interest

me? getting anally raped....payments are 523/mo over 5 years.....that is $31380

your credit must suck, or you must not have payed attention to the APR.


on the topic of interest- i'm paying 2500$ interest over a 72month loan. and my payments are just over 300/month. coul've gotten lower interest rate if i put cash down, but the intereste doesn't bother me too much because i send double payments and will have it paid off early

jam3v 10-03-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_WRX_driver (Post 1069473)
There are threads, many threads that cover this.

I know how it annoying it is to see the same threads over and over, but we all know how annoying it is to search for countless hours to acquire information.

Some car forums, like EvolutionM for example, have a dedicated sticky thread where people talk about how much they paid for their vehicles. It's on-going and always active. It's also invaluable. Was just hoping something like that might start here.

Thanks to anyone who shares info.

adlpb 10-03-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jam3v (Post 1069532)
I know how it annoying it is to see the same threads over and over, but we all know how annoying it is to search for countless hours to acquire information.

Some car forums, like EvolutionM for example, have a dedicated sticky thread where people talk about how much they paid for their vehicles. It's on-going and always active. It's also invaluable. Was just hoping something like that might start here.

Thanks to anyone who shares info.

Really? That's funny because it took me about 30 seconds to find this under your thread.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-speed3-82943/
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...d-price-92273/
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-prices-91351/
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...e-owned-86472/

TRex 10-03-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich-PMS (Post 1069504)
your credit must suck, or you must not have payed attention to the APR.


on the topic of interest- i'm paying 2500$ interest over a 72month loan. and my payments are just over 300/month. coul've gotten lower interest rate if i put cash down, but the intereste doesn't bother me too much because i send double payments and will have it paid off early

good credit i just got raped by the APR i was stupid when i bought it and got played by the dealer.....but now i know for next time

rfinkle2 10-03-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1069546)
good credit i just got raped by the APR i was stupid when i bought it and got played by the dealer.....but now i know for next time

You can refinance the car e.g. capital one auto refinance for 4.19% depending on your credit score.

jam3v 10-03-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1069538)

Well, the point of this thread was to make it easier, so mission accomplished? :)

adlpb 10-03-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 (Post 1069567)
You can refinance the car e.g. capital one auto refinance for 4.19% depending on your credit score.

Yeah I refinanced with USAA. I don't recommend sticking with the dealer APR.

TRex 10-03-2011 02:31 PM

^i went through that with my bank already...with pnc i could have got 3.9%....but it would only save me 44 a month...and im currently in a position to pay it off early so i am just going to stick with it

galens47 10-03-2011 03:19 PM

I got rolled by dealer too. Know better for next time. Payment was just under 500. Just refied at 2.99%, payment didn't drop much but much better terms!

Cheers,

G

Stingray69 10-03-2011 06:29 PM

You guys should have bought a 5.0 stang for $500/month. Did you guys take any personal finance classes in school? With a few k down and good credit you should have been under $400/month for 5 years. Wanna buy some ocean front property in Kansas? Was the lube cherry flavored?



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ramellensb 10-03-2011 07:32 PM

I bought mine for 25, exact tag price. They couldnt bugde bc they gave me full value of 19900 for my

truck. Now I am fin 14k at 270 a month.

2% apr

TheStig1989 10-03-2011 08:06 PM

Im in Arizona and found mine for 22,995$

2011 W/ Tech, cystal black mica, 8k miles, no damage at all, some decent drag wheels and a K&N intake

was listed at 4k under KBB and the bank showed it as 4.5K under retail value

couldnt be happier with the deal

Schmitty5 10-03-2011 08:07 PM

bought my 2010 brand new. 21,700 no tech package. put 6000 down. 298/mo 5 years. im happy.

jkmags 10-03-2011 08:32 PM

I would have loved a 5.0 but after last years snow in MN I didnt want my only vehicle to be rear wheel drive again. I had a 2005 Crown Vic LX, loved that car, love rear wheel drive but the seats were made for someone a little wider than me (it was like driving around sitting on your couch).

back on topic,. I paid 24,600 w/tech and 0% for 60. I was happy with it and it was the color I wanted, I imagine i could have gotten another 500 out of them but I liked the car.

22 for non tech and 24 with tech seems to be a fairly good deal that should be within your reach.

rgz 10-04-2011 02:03 AM

21k flat + t.t.l. (2010 w/ tech). Bought at the end of the 2010.

TRex 10-04-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by combustionut (Post 1069940)
You guys should have bought a 5.0 stang for $500/month. Did you guys take any personal finance classes in school? With a few k down and good credit you should have been under $400/month for 5 years. Wanna buy some ocean front property in Kansas? Was the lube cherry flavored?



.

only if you throw in a bridge and no it was pineapple

Abu Zib 10-04-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by combustionut (Post 1069940)
You guys should have bought a 5.0 stang for $500/month. Did you guys take any personal finance classes in school? With a few k down and good credit you should have been under $400/month for 5 years. Wanna buy some ocean front property in Kansas? Was the lube cherry flavored?



.

putting 11k down FTMFW!

robry 10-04-2011 07:20 AM

I paid 24,450$ for my 2011 with tech in May. Got 3.39% APR for 60 months. 420.06$/mo with 3000$ down.

check sites like 100% Haggle-Free New Car Price Quotes from Local Dealers - TrueCar for a good idea of what others are paying in your area. Don't be afraid to drive 150-200mi to save 1500$.

it's a good idea to get pre-approval from your local credit union/bank on an interest rate. If you walk in with a good rate, you can usually haggle the dealer into giving you .5% percent off and/or matching the rate (obviously depends on your credit, etc) but this way the dealership can't play you.

Also ask to see the price sheet worked up before you agree, ask things like 'what additional fees does this dealership charge for paperwork/etc.', they might give you a price 500$ under any other nearest dealership, but then add additional fees for processing paperwork, etc, which negates the better vehicle price.

good luck with your purchase!

analbumcover 10-04-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1069538)


Yeah but its not unified, we need a sticky that gets specific and standardized information. Info like Sale price of CAR, OTD price, location. These threads are all "here is my story" threads which are great a providing insight and help to specific people but searching every thread is inefficient....we need a new "section" on the forum for prices and a sticky in that section for a database of prices.

adlpb 10-04-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by analbumcover (Post 1070883)
Yeah but its not unified, we need a sticky that gets specific and standardized information. Info like Sale price of CAR, OTD price, location. These threads are all "here is my story" threads which are great a providing insight and help to specific people but searching every thread is inefficient....we need a new "section" on the forum for prices and a sticky in that section for a database of prices.

If you want accurate information go to truecar.com - they have a database and statistics on averages, max/min, etc.
New 2012 Mazda Mazda3 Price Quote w/ MSRP, Dealer Cost & Invoice

koukizenki 10-04-2011 01:48 PM

I got my 2011 ms3 /w tech package for $24k over a month ago. I have new credit and Chase financed the car with 0% interest over 60 months. The guy at the dealer told me they aren't supposed to give 0% on the mazdaspeeds and especially someone with new credit. I guess I got lucky.

analbumcover 10-04-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1070893)
If you want accurate information go to truecar.com - they have a database and statistics on averages, max/min, etc.
New 2012 Mazda Mazda3 Price Quote w/ MSRP, Dealer Cost & Invoice

i agree. used it for the last 3 cars i bought but truecar will never show a speed3 tech for 23k but many people on the forums are getting this price.

adlpb 10-04-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by analbumcover (Post 1070931)
i agree. used it for the last 3 cars i bought but truecar will never show a speed3 tech for 23k but many people on the forums are getting this price.

Are you talking invoice price or out the door? I paid 23K invoice price for a tech. OTD was around 26 with fees, taxes, registration, etc. Some people post their invoice price, some post OTD prices.

Werm 10-04-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang5884 (Post 1069472)
IMO, these are good prices.
w/o tech - $21,800
w/ tech - $24,000

Unless you know someone at the dealer.

those can't be new prices. even that is way below invoice

koukizenki 10-04-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1070934)
Are you talking invoice price or out the door? I paid 23K invoice price for a tech. OTD was around 26 with fees, taxes, registration, etc. Some people post their invoice price, some post OTD prices.

Ya that's the same as me and I got 0% interest financing

ramellensb 10-04-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukizenki (Post 1070956)
Ya that's the same as me and I got 0% interest financing

How long is ur loan? They have those 60 months at zero but after 60 the apr kicks in at 5% plus.

koukizenki 10-04-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramellensb (Post 1071039)
How long is ur loan? They have those 60 months at zero but after 60 the apr kicks in at 5% plus.

Yeah its for 60 months.

Southernace76 10-04-2011 06:17 PM

Try Truecar . com Otherwise, ask to see the invoice. Different states and cities have different demands and tax rates. In the end, you can't put a price on happiness and this car is a win!

Wolfgang5884 10-04-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User208 (Post 1070950)
those can't be new prices. even that is way below invoice

Those are 2012 prices. I contacted the dealer and they said that's their Summer Drive prices.

analbumcover 10-04-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User208 (Post 1070950)
those can't be new prices. even that is way below invoice


Those are 2012 new prices. Truecar agrees.

also, i thought 0% on speed3's ended?

Rich-PMS 10-05-2011 12:18 AM

i put 0 down, car was 16k plus tax/tags/title my payment is 325/month(with GAP coverage) for 60months at 7% apr. i'll be refinancing pretty soon through USAA. APR on used cars suck for consumers right now

JT.Tuckerman 10-05-2011 09:20 AM

I got my 2011 back in May for 22K no tech package and I had to shop real long and hard to get it at this price. Dealer was 100 miles away. Local dealers wanted 2-3K more. And I had to wait for it to come in 3 weeks, it was in transit here via boat. I financed separately through my bank and got 2.9% for 60 months with my good credit, can't remember what I put down although payment is a reasonable 254 a month.

r3dlined 10-10-2011 01:51 PM

I'm looking at a black 2012 w/Tech package and looking at $25,200

Nazarite 10-10-2011 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1069573)
Yeah I refinanced with USAA. I don't recommend sticking with the dealer APR.

Yeah, better off bringing your own loan to the table. Get with a credit union or something like that.

Swagerwagon03 10-10-2011 02:03 PM

At our dealership there is no more 0 for 60 months....finance through a credit union or somewhere else.....if you finance the car at dealership you pay more(from my 2 months of car selling experience)finance the car outside dealership and say you are paying cash(after you get approved) equals better deal....

TRex 10-10-2011 03:36 PM

^i thought not always

it seemed to me that car companies make money two ways...either up front...or on the back end

if you offer cash up front wouldnt they inflate the price to compensate for money lost on the back end through financing?

G26 10-10-2011 03:38 PM

Mine:

$21k without TTL
$23-24k includin ttl etc.

If I had the mazda loyalty coupon It would have been $20.5k without ttl.

ttchanusa 10-10-2011 03:51 PM

In my case, financing through the dealer was cheaper than our local credit union. I bought mine, 2012 w/tech @ 25,100. I negotiated with the dealer that I will only purchase the car if they give me 1.9% @ 60 months, and they did. I think the best I can do at a local credit union at the time was about 3.9%.

BMON3YZOOMIN 10-11-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dlined (Post 1078521)
I'm looking at a black 2012 w/Tech package and looking at $25,200

GOT MY 2012 W/ TECH FOR 23900 BEFORE TAXES.. JUST PICKED IT UP SATURDAY WITH 3 MILES ON IT :)

ANITIX87 10-12-2011 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMON3YZOOMIN (Post 1081029)
GOT MY 2012 W/ TECH FOR 23900 BEFORE TAXES.. JUST PICKED IT UP SATURDAY WITH 3 MILES ON IT :)

Dude, you have to stop using caps.

Which dealership did you use? I'm near NYC and curious.

TIS

r3dlined 10-12-2011 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANITIX87 (Post 1081198)
Dude, you have to stop using caps.

Which dealership did you use? I'm near NYC and curious.

TIS

Im in NYC area as well and Id drive to snag that price.

BMON3YZOOMIN 10-12-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANITIX87 (Post 1081198)
Dude, you have to stop using caps.

Which dealership did you use? I'm near NYC and curious.

TIS

lol sorry about the caps... koeppel mazda .. pm me if you want i could get you the same price..

ANITIX87 10-12-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMON3YZOOMIN (Post 1081616)
lol sorry about the caps... koeppel mazda .. pm me if you want i could get you the same price..

Sadly, I won't be buying for a while. Waiting on my finances to sort themselves out. Maybe when it's time to buy I'll remember you, haha.

TIS


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