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What's the world coming to? Just reading through the latest issue of Car and Driver when I happen upon a review for the new Golf R. At over 3400 lbs curb and with horsepower and torque at 292 and 280 respectively, how in the name of Christ are they getting 0-60's of 4.5 and 1/4's at 13.2 ... bone stock? All wheel drive and launch control aside, I'm pushing 295 at the wheels and more torque. Does it simply get down to the "You can't drive" factor? My neighbor is about to pull the trigger on an upgrade from his current 2011 or 12 to the latest offering. I'll never hear the end of this. The shame, the shame! |
Well looking back at Car and Drivers review of the MS3, stock they got a 0-60 in 6.2. So at 263 factory hp for the MS3 vs the Golf's 292 at 4.5 and AWD, I think... they must have one hell of a driver. Lol I have no idea how they got those numbers. I did test drive a 2012 Golf R before I got the Speed and that car was a yawn mobile. No personality and undefeatable Stability control without tuning turned me away. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Yep, AWD, launch control and dual clutch quick gear changes= fast 0-60. |
What was the MPH on that golf 1/4 mile? Times all come down to the car putting power to the ground efficiently and driver maximizing the potential of the car. MPH is a good indicator of whether or not the power numbers they state match. |
Road & Track didn't get close to 4.5 seconds. Mk7 Golf R (Euro-spec) 0-60mph 5.2 secs 0-100mph 12.2 secs 1/4 mile 13.6 secs @ 105.7 MPH Full performance test of the 2015 Volkswagen Golf R (European-spec) Motortrend did a 4.5second run in a DSG-equipped car apparently: 60mph 4.5 seconds 1/4 mile 13.1 seconds at 104.9 mph. 2015 Volkswagen Golf R First Test - Motor Trend |
IMO, When it comes to drag racing, or biggest killers are: 1. 6 speed (silly 1st gear). 2. Wrong wheel drive. The car makes the power, but we waste too much time with 1st gear. I feel like I'm beating on the car just to keep up with an Accord...that isn't even racing. Just accept the fact that the car isn't designed for drag racing. |
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The numbers line up pretty close, the MPH almost seems like the stated HP is WHP. However, when it comes to HP and torque numbers, peak numbers don't mean much. Without comparing power graphs its tough to say who's actually making more power thru out the entire RPM range. That and seems like the golf has nice fancy tech to limit non driving bastards effect on ETs. |
really consider shift times, VW DSG has the next gear predictively engaged, shifts are measured in milliseconds, manual (our style) shifts are typical 500 ms to 1 second per shift, its not hard to believe. The average manual car driver: 500 ms - 1 s Aston Martin Vanquish: 250 ms Ferrari 575M: 220 ms BMW M3 E36 with SMG I: 220 ms Ferrari 360: 150 ms Enzo Ferrari: 150 ms Lexus LFA: 150 ms Ferrari FXX: Under 100 ms Nissan GT-R: 100ms BMW M3 E46 with SMG II: 80 ms Ferrari 430 Scuderia & FXX Evoluzione: 60 ms Volkswagen Golf GTI (Direct Shift): 8 ms Bugatti Veyron (Direct Shift): 8 ms All Volkswagen DSG Gearbox (Direct Shift): 8 ms Shift times / shift speed for transmissions including automatic, DSG, DCT, SMG, SMGII, dual clutch, manual, etc. |
Apr is getting the Golf R's into the 11's with just an intake, downpipe and a tune on 93 octane. I also believe VW rates their hp/Tq numbers very conservative as well. |
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