GI for 5th Port Ghes Injection

[EdgeAutosport.com]

bov relocation to the hotpipe will be cake. This was just ordered and should be here in 2 days

[bcmurphy87]

I just ordered more 3.5" to increase the blow thru maf, and get some space between 5th port and maf lol. Everyone is preping for POWA

[PapaSmurf]

that picture is about as big as my dick

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf that picture is about as big as my dick

Thats pretty big ask RayRay (rg73gz)

[mrmonk7663]

Are you using a new sensor for blowthru or the stock sensor? I know on my mustang the normal draw thru maf was quite different than the blowthru maf..it was a different sensor altogether...the draw thru was not "optimised" in blow thru configuration per se..not sure if its the same with this platform or not.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 Are you using a new sensor for blowthru or the stock sensor? I know on my mustang the normal draw thru maf was quite different than the blowthru maf..it was a different sensor altogether...the draw thru was not "optimised" in blow thru configuration per se..not sure if its the same with this platform or not.

I'm assuming your asking bcmurphy? He's using the same MAF we all use.

[forcedinduktion]

I might be interested

[mrmonk7663]

Yah, I was asking bcmurphy. I need to work on my "quoting" skills haha. So what kind of retune are yall using for the car in blowthru? What issues arise? Its generally harder to dial in initially but yields a more stable tune from what I know.

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn I'm assuming your asking bcmurphy? He's using the same MAF we all use.

[mason]

how is the beta testing going with the 5th port? im sitting at 18 psi (spring) until i can haz 5th port. just trying to do things rite....

say im running 390 on stock system. then i add 5th port. what size injectors do i need to reach a 500 WHP goal with the 5th port, or say 600 WHP dont want to leave myself short? i dont want to factor in 50/50 meth that im running cause you know why, just for the bonus factor.

[TWOptSL0W]

We don't have it yet, but Anthony and dj are running it with no problems I think

[bcmurphy87]

Im very happy with the blow thru tune. I mean there have been a few times i wish i had more fuel because i was flowing so much air. Im really excited to see what breaks next lol

[mrmonk7663]

What changes were needed tuning wise for the blowthru setup?

[bcmurphy87]

Honeslty Dj handled all the tuning on it, im not exactly sure what major changes were made to dail it in but it runs like a dream even if you blow a coupler off lol

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by forcedinduktion I might be interested

We gotta get the beta kits out before i'm doing any more. Hopefully we'll have some results in a few weeks.

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 Yah, I was asking bcmurphy. I need to work on my "quoting" skills haha. So what kind of retune are yall using for the car in blowthru? What issues arise? Its generally harder to dial in initially but yields a more stable tune from what I know.

Key to a successful blow thru tune is in the hardware. You need the larger diameter blow thru pipe to be as long and straight as possible. Otherwise you end up having to tweak and modify the shape of the maf curve... and things get ugly fast.

Originally Posted by mason how is the beta testing going with the 5th port? im sitting at 18 psi (spring) until i can haz 5th port. just trying to do things rite.... say im running 390 on stock system. then i add 5th port. what size injectors do i need to reach a 500 WHP goal with the 5th port, or say 600 WHP dont want to leave myself short? i dont want to factor in 50/50 meth that im running cause you know why, just for the bonus factor.

Beta hasn't started yet... but soon. Ordering parts still.

For injectors, dual 1000 cc/min seem to be adequate for 500awhp when used with the DW65c ITFP (i'm going to push for 550awhp soon on my 6).

The stock fuel feed line from the tank to the engine bay becomes a restriction, and the pressure to the aux injectors will drop under real high loads. It still works... but would work even better if there was higher pressure there. One of my future plans is running a surge tank in the engine bay, and converting the stock fuel setup to a return style. Another approach is the dual in tank pumps that Pablo is working on. That's gonna be pure sex when it's available.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

What about a fuel cell with a different feed system just to spray the 2 injectors?

5 gallon fuel cell ftw

[Dano]

Fuel cell full of corn FTW!

[bcmurphy87]

If we start adding fuel cells. i might just have to settle with 500 lol

[EdgeAutosport.com]

in b4 fuel cells with corn and n20 bottle fed speeds everywhere

[Realgib3]

I haz 4gal e85 fuel cell for the secondaries... should be running soon just waiting on a couple small parts for the head to be able to button up the new motor

[Dano]

now THATS what Im talkin bout! Best of all worlds.

precise injection control vs. meth
cooling that meth provides
valve cleaning
octane bump.
take your E ratio up above danger levels of CDFP/spill valve failures with the aux system.

win win win win win

[djuosnteisn]

Sky's the limit. I wouldn't want a fuel cell in the car on the 3 though, but to each their own. Once you guys get the injectors on the car, you can feed them however you want, hahahaha.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

[Dano]

stop it for god sake!

hahah

you and your N2O

[mrmonk7663]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn 0 Key to a successful blow thru tune is in the hardware. You need the larger diameter blow thru pipe to be as long and straight as possible. Otherwise you end up having to tweak and modify the shape of the maf curve... and things get ugly fast.

Where are you sourcing the pipe from and what diameter would be best for 2.5" intercooler piping?

[Ziggo]

A blow thru MAF will max as the same flow as a draw thru MAF, so size accordingly.


Zigatapatalka

[mrmonk7663]

Are you sure? Again, other platform experience, but I was under the impression they max sooner...With an equally sized blow thru vs. draw thru maf on my ford modular motor, the blow thru maxed earlier by a descent margin.

Originally Posted by Ziggo A blow thru MAF will max as the same flow as a draw thru MAF, so size accordingly. Zigatapatalka

[doubleflusher]

Put me back on the list pwease?

$$ is ready.

[forcedinduktion]

I haz teh boner

[TWOptSL0W]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher Put me back on the list pwease? $$ is ready.

Too late list is done...maybe I'll let you look at my setup if you're a good boy

[djuosnteisn]

Yeah, no more list shuffling right now, too many things in motion, and would be difficult to change.

DW65's should be showing up soon. SS controller order is being finalized today. Injectors will be ordered today.... and various other lil things as well.

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 Are you sure? Again, other platform experience, but I was under the impression they max sooner...With an equally sized blow thru vs. draw thru maf on my ford modular motor, the blow thru maxed earlier by a descent margin.

You should start a thread for blow thru stuff, and we can try to keep this thread on topic. I'll be more than happy to offer tips and tricks, but don't want to bump this train off the tracks.

Check out that top mount ms3 project thread in this section. The last post showed one approach to blow thru.

[Dano]

ok I guess I am dumb or blind...no can find top mount MS3 thread in PERM section....

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Dano ok I guess I am dumb or blind...no can find top mount MS3 thread in PERM section....

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[Dano]

hahah with a title like that I would have never found it....thanks

[burn813]

His shit never makes sense dano..... Have you ever talked to the guy...... Kinda reminds me of hammie from over the hedge!

























LAYDER

[Dano]

hahaah

ouch!

but yes I have talked to him a number of times and its hard for me to keep up...down here in the south we talk slow so maybe its just me...lol

[jmhinkle]

Your north of us so there is no excuse.

[Dano]

Latitude doesn't really come into play here lol

Southwest is not the "south"




Tappin

[burn813]

That's no bullshit Dano west Virginia & Virginia...... Need I say more

[Ziggo]

Careful now, born and bred, (thankfully with no relatives in the tree) pepperoni roll eating, gold and blue wearing, John Denver singing West Virginian here.


Zigatapatalka

[bcmurphy87]

Im in GA and sometimes when i visit the in laws in West Va i think they are more red neck than we are lol