E-85 Cure With Fuel Additives

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by Gr8Speed Has your car never quacked hahaha?

My FSB bushings make stupendous amounts of noise in the winter lol.

[OverBoosted]

Replacing those suck btw. I helped a local nator member and just damn lol

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[PapaSmurf]

just a little update.

Tuned the car on full corn yesterday after rebuilding my pump with SI-1.

All I can say is wow.

6466 @ 31 psi. Out of injector. Need to get 2000cc's to replace these 1000cc.

The car has about 150 miles on full E now, with multiple turn off and restarts. I did not however try to start it today. I will tomorrow though.

[mrmonk7663]

Curious...is your maf draw thru or blow thru?

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 Curious...is your maf draw thru or blow thru?

Draw threw. 3.5 inch and it's actually maxed out at he moment.

I maxed my injectors and maf voltage.

[mrmonk7663]

Very Nice. I have a 3.5 maf housing laying around if you decide you want to upgrade. It is a true 3.5" ID....3.75OD....most 3.5" housings on the market are 3.3x ID for comparison. If you find yourself in need, hit me up and i'll direct you to the old for sale ad.

[PapaSmurf]

Mines a custom 3.5 and I'll just have my buddy re weld a new one. Pretty quick and easy.

[mrmonk7663]

Good deal. So with the full E85 over 50/50....have you noticed an increase in power/tq or just ease of fillup?

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 Good deal. So with the full E85 over 50/50....have you noticed an increase in power/tq or just ease of fillup?

Have only tuned the car on full e, so I wouldn't know lol

[Enki]

What are you scaling your MAF to for reducing IDCs from the HPFP?

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Enki What are you scaling your MAF to for reducing IDCs from the HPFP?

I dont tune my car, Dustin does. I can take a look at my map once I am home from work.

I can tell you my IDC's are around 115 at the moment.

Estimation would be around 630 whp uncorrected.

As of right now I can adjust my FPR pressure up to give myself about 15-20 percent more fuel (right now its at 45psi and I could easily put it up to 60-70psi), which could net some decent power but it wouldnt be enough to go 40+psi.

[mrmonk7663]

You have a build thread? I'd like to read up on your setup!

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 You have a build thread? I'd like to read up on your setup!

look in the big turbo section. Papasmurf round #2

[PapaSmurf]

Almost through a full tank of E with no issues.

Anyone else testing have updates?

[littleloogy]

Sometimes no news is good news... I am now bored. I need a new project.

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[Enki]

New project: Straight pipe from hotside to TB on full corn with a dash of chemical intercooling.

[littleloogy]

You sure know how to give my life meaning. This is brilliant @Enki; the K04 will flow better then BT at controlled bats that I set. Sounds like fun.

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[Enki]

Do work son.

Edit: Keep the piping the same size as the turbo outlet, and if you do add WMI, have it close to the cold side outlet, and wait to step up the size to match the throttle body; a drop on pressure/velocity from the step up in pipe size should result in a minor decrease in temps.

[littleloogy]

Yes, I will eventually be using WMI. I am curious, when using wmi is it best to have the bpv located prior to the spray or as far away as possible?

Stepping up the pipe late decreasing temps? Similar to an A/C system as the compressed air passes through an orifice?

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[Enki]

I don't really think it matters BPV wise. Worst case, you get some pre-cooled air back into the turbo. Best case, you don't get pre cooled air, but you get a hit of extra cooled air during the shift. It might be best to get one of those WMI spacer plates that's coming out.

[Scott4957]

Originally Posted by Enki New project: Straight pipe from hotside to TB on full corn with a dash of chemical intercooling.

For us laymen please elaborate!

[mrmonk7663]

No intercooler, pipe going from turbo outlet to throttle body....ie minimize amount of piping and no pressure loss....relying on purely methanol for intercooling purposes and E85 for knock protection.....Actually should work fine. I did this on my old mustang. 93 pump tune. No intercooler. Methanol....ran 7psi like that (centrifugal supercharger) with no issues and made 430hp on a stock 3v engine.

[Scott4957]

Thanks! Sounds like fun. Curious how much more could be squeezed out of the K04 on that setup. Looking forward to someone trying it.

[Enki]

@phate; put a piece of cardboard over his stock TMIC back when running full e85 was a new thing. If memory serves, he got bored of doing 6th gear pulls @ 220 BATs and/or ran out of fuel and the car didn't once give a single fuck. I think that was in the winter though, so there's a difference in inherent charge outlet temps to be considered.

[Fjager]

Silly question but would you have to constantly spray a small amount of meth for cruising or just at wot, would non intercooled air be fine for daily purposes?

Edit: never mind that was just answered

[Scott4957]

Yeah, @phate; tuned me, he quickly talked me out of all kinds of parts on the premise I wouldn't need them running 50/50. The car is a beast and we haven't finished it on the dyno yet. I keep trying to get him to push it towards ZZB but we won't budge I have less than a grand in go fast parts.

[mrmonk7663]

You don't need all the go fast parts to go fast with k04 and E85...the go fast parts simply help the turbo be more efficient....and they come into play later on with BT

[Scott4957]

Oh I'm well aware, still need some to talk me off the ledge!

[mrmonk7663]

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Originally Posted by Scott4957 Oh I'm well aware, still need some to talk me off the ledge!

[Enki]

Might have some potential ringland failure with my car, which if that's the case, a full on build will take place at some point.

Let's just say that @littleloogy; won't be the only one running full E85 with no intercooler.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki Let's just say that @littleloogy; won't be the only one running full E85 with no intercooler.

If I know you like I think I know you, you are going to be doing something that has not been done before, hints the secrets. Most likely something engineerish mixed with some Motörhead? And yes, intercoolers are for pussies.

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[Enki]

Originally Posted by littleloogy If I know you like I think I know you, you are going to be doing something that has not been done before. Probably something engineerish mixed with motorhead? But yes, intercoolers are for pussies. Sent From a Galaxy, Far Far Away...

Yes, essentially it will be a small scale test for my Falcon build. If it works out how I hope, shit will be rather impressive.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Scott4957 Oh I'm well aware, still need some to talk me off the ledge!

The best way to learn to swim is to jump in the water, not standing on the sidelines watching. But then again, you do have a much better view of the chicks in bikinis staying out. So... At least you will have that going for you.

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[SarcasticOne]

found this:
Why you need to run an Intercooler?

[Enki]

@phate; has already proven that E85 is the honey badger of the fuel world. With enough WMI, you can get the same (and higher) "intercooler efficiency" plus the benefit of lower overall pressure ratio combined with better spool.

[MSP6]

Redline finally came in the mail yesterday. Plans for today but fuel pump coming out tomorrow and getting redone with S-1 to join the testing.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by MSP6 Redline finally came in the mail yesterday. Plans for today but fuel pump coming out tomorrow and getting redone with S-1 to join the testing.

What oil you going to run?

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[MSP6]

I was going to pick up some RP seeing as it had such positive results. Is there another we wanted to try out?

I'm headed out for a family day shortly but oil isnt being bought until tonight or tomorrow morning. Let me know if there some other brand/weight etc you were curious about.

[PapaSmurf]

I'm running VR1 10w30 without issue

[littleloogy]

Good choice @MSP6;. Royal Purple is some good shit. Godspeed

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