E-85 Cure With Fuel Additives

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki Do you have stock boost control/boost reference or have you modded ebcs/reference/wga?

I'm using the GrimmSpeed 3-port in interrupt mode. Stock wastegate actuator.

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[udntknw]

Boost sourced from compressor or intake manifold?

[littleloogy]

Right from the compressor good sir @udntknw;

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[Enki]

Elevation is a hell of a thing.

[navyspeed3]

Have you tried or seen the Lucas oil ethanol treatment? It says prevents gunk but doesn't say what is in it. Just saw it at the store and going to grab a bottle

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by navyspeed3 Have you tried or seen the Lucas oil ethanol treatment? It says prevents gunk but doesn't say what is in it. Just saw it at the store and going to grab a bottle

Try reading literally anything in this section dip shit

[littleloogy]

I am not sure, give it a shot. If you want to experiment with different cleaners make sure you Check the data sheets. Look for items with high concentrations of PolyEther Amine and Aliphatic Naphtha.
These are the agents that will help keep the death at bay. And keep your SV from getting sticky.



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[navyspeed3]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Try reading literally anything in this section dip shit

sorry must have stepped on your ego. Was at the store looking at them and forgot that was mentioned. Anyways....shall we continue with the path we are on.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by navyspeed3 sorry must have stepped on your ego. Was at the store looking at them and forgot that was mentioned. Anyways....shall we continue with the path we are on.

No you wasted everyone's time. Go to the corner and feel bad about yourself.

[navyspeed3]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny No you wasted everyone's time. Go to the corner and feel bad about yourself.

Easter bunny....you hurt my feelings with the words you used and I would like an apology or you can just end your life whatever is easier on you...not really but you get the point that this argument you hold has a greater affect on your life

[Easter Bunny]

Uh oh someone's feelings got hurt.

[navyspeed3]

Here is the stuff I plan on trying, Solvent naphtha (petroleum), medium aliphatic 60 - 100%

.http://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-tr...th-stabilizers

[Easter Bunny]

Just start your own thread instead of cluttering up a useful one.

[navyspeed3]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Just start your own thread instead of cluttering up a useful one.

Do you even know what this thread is about? Fuel additives....... The lack of knowledge you have astonishes me. Anyways I think you have made your point and you can stop taking up a thread. From my experience though it seems as if the stick in your ass isn't going away anytime soon

[Enki]

How about you both stop being faggots before threadbans come out.

Do the research/testing, post results. Post ideas, possible solutions, or confirm other findings. Enough bullshit.

[littleloogy]

Here is a Data Log Freeway 60-100.csv to expose how well the pump is working. It sure does not have trouble pumping E fuel or maintaining pressure; Even after 5,000 + miles of straight E85 without any additive treatment in the fuel. I am going to try to change my oil tomorrow. Lets all hope I find the time to do so and to post up some info for you.

[PapaSmurf]

I'm excited to hear what youre currently doing for 5k plus miles on E, just caught up with the thread today.

[mazdafreak]

Ohh im excited!

I bought the fuel additive, but idk if i want to use it...So i just been doing a 60/40 mix for now cause im out of fuel on the 35r after 5k.... Hooking up PI this week.

[littleloogy]

Got the pump out yesterday. Here is what the internals and pump looked like. The bore was not seized on the piston, it came apart with ease.

The crap on the piston was not sticky, it was like chalk or a powder and wiped away with ease. So this new method should help keep costs down for people who want to run E all the time like I do, since it only uses a few MLs per pump rebuild.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Got the pump out yesterday. Here is what the internals and pump looked like. The bore was not seized on the piston, it came apart with ease. The crap on the piston was not sticky, it was like chalk or a powder and wiped away with ease. So this new method should help keep costs down for people who want to run E all the time like I do, since it only uses a few MLs per pump rebuild.

Are you still taking the pump apart and dropping 2 mL in every night after shut down or are you doing it less frequently?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf Are you still taking the pump apart and dropping 2 mL in ever night after shut down or are you doing it less frequently?

Oh no, I ditched that method a long time ago. I would only resort to that if my pump/spill valve died on me while driving. What I am doing is maintenance free. Rebuild pump, and go.

[jtms6]

Almost sounds like it's been 6k since his last rebuild? patiently waiting for teh wisdoms

[mazdafreak]

Show me your ways master!

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Oh no, I ditched that method a long time ago. I would only resort to that if my pump/spill valve died on me while driving. What I am doing is maintenance free. Rebuild pump, and go.

More info!

[littleloogy]

It is quite simple really. The idea is using this additive as a barrier between the fuel and the oil. @Enki; has shown us the reaction of oil and boiling hot E85 (black death). By adding Si-1 to the pump itself where the reaction is happening, theoretically will change the properties of resulting sticky goo we know as death.

Since adding Si-1 to the pump, I have been able to drive an incredibly long amount of time without experiencing any kind of fuel pump failure. Even my spill valve does not develop sticky death failure.

[jtms6]

What interval and is it the same steps as you were Doing before -Unscrewing that top nut and adding the si1 with a dropper?

[PapaSmurf]

My take after that post would be he rebuilt the pump while putting the additive inside the pump and has since had issues. So basically what he initially did but only once with with either the same amount or a larger amount.

[littleloogy]

Yes. Here is what I did yesterday while changing my oil.

Put some si-1 in a shot glass.


Make sure to clean the bore contact points on the pump and fastener. I used Si-1.


Use Si-1 as your lube for the piston.


Slide the piston into the fastener install spring and then add a ML of si-1 inside the cup.


Install the bore. A bit of additive may escape, that's OK wipe it away.

Keep the internals vertical and turn the pump upside down. Bring the pump to the internals. Install and torque normally.

The first test was a few hundred miles just to note the difference. The second time was thousands of miles. I only rebuilt the pump to show everyone, not because it needed it. You can reference my log as to how well the pump was working a few days ago.

[Enki]

@udntknw;

It's public now. Get to testin!

[udntknw]

For documentation sake, what oil are you using currently?

[littleloogy]

Royal purple... Shit works really well.

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[Enki]

I can confirm that the RP DEXOS 1 oil had the least issues on full corn for me.

[PapaSmurf]

I will put it to the test with a different oil, i would think with SI-1 it wouldnt matter what oil youre running though.

[Enki]

It might though. A dexos oil is going to be more resistant to fuel than, say, T6. When my first UOA came back on the RP, it had 0% fuel dilution.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Enki It might though. A dexos oil is going to be more resistant to fuel than, say, T6. When my first UOA came back on the RP, it had 0% fuel dilution.

I dont fuck with T6 anymore, Ill be running a 20w50 to keep up with the extreme heat and pressures ill be seeing. Right now either Valvoline VR1 or HPS Royal Purple.

[mazdafreak]

So all your doing after u clean the pump is inject the fuel additive in the pump to basically lube all the components and that's it? And lasted thousands of miles?

[littleloogy]

Pretty much @mazdafreak; just Lube the piston and fill the faster with additive after the piston has been inserted. Then insert the bore into the fastener and then assemble pump.

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[mazdafreak]

Well fuck me. That's awesome..... I have a bottle of the additive in my garage. Guess I'll take pump apart tomorrow!


Guess it makes perfect sense since that's where it all happens...... But you would think the additive would just wash away in the pump after a lil while after.

[littleloogy]

Where the additive is going should be sealed off. The pump is designed to keep fuel out of the oil and oil out of the fuel. We are in a sense putting the additive in the reaction area.

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[Enki]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Where the additive is going should be sealed off. The pump is designed to keep fuel out of the oil and oil out of the fuel, just not very well. We are in a sense putting the additive in the reaction area.

Fixed.