I think I just read obsession is now classified as a chronic disease, lol :/

BLAH BLAH BLAH.....shhhhhhhhhhh

Not considering the black death in the HPFP, what kind of power gains would make it worth it to you guys? From my searching, I've seen people claim as low as ~3%, to as high as ~12% gain. Just curious.

Edit: Assuming most K04 cars, once properly tuned, make 280-300hp, we're talking about an 8-30hp gain.

KMD just answered:

Interesting...

30hp would make my jaw drop. 15hp would still be worth it if i were in a position to do it, which i'm definitely not. <15hp, at least in my neck of the woods would be a toss up. Maybe on track days.


And honestly, as far as the black death, so far you've been the only person sick with it. Granted, your also the only person running 100% haha.

What are these 'seals' of which they speak, and why can't they be swapped out without replacing the entire pump housing?


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If I had known you were coming all the way up to Joliet to Dyno, I would've sent you to the guy I use. Tom Wojitas 815-521-1820. The last time I went there he charged $85/car for 2-3 runs with a sniffer. He had a four-car minimum for that price, though.


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Man, I called like 20 places. It was either no answer, booked, or "what's FWD? We can't do those here!".

I think I'm getting a good deal for $100/hr. That's some pretty cheap dyno time.

I'm going to guess 10-15 whp 30-50 lb/tq over 93 tune on my car.

100 bucks aint that cheap....i got a place down here that if i go with 3 or 4 cars 60 bucks cash for 3 pulls.

Most places around here are $60-100 for 3 pulls. After that, they charge by the hour, which ends up being cheaper.

Well if you would dyno with us, we would just need 1 more... how about it??

I pay $65 for 3 pulls here...

Travis at Cobb had a similar experience with the goo on 100%. Just not as well publicized.

Waaaaayyyyy back on page 2, or so, Calvin talks about the same issue, as well.

I guess myself @driver311 or @cld12pk2go or anyone else for that matter need to be the ones to bring data to life for the 50/50 mix....

I am dying to find out what @phate makes.

I'm not sure there's been enough suspense built up, maybe I should hold off? lol

I wish I could, but I have to go to Indy on Friday for work.

I'm in for some E85 love on a BT MS3. It will be about a month before I can get on the rollers but I found a shop that will do $75/hr and they have wifi so if DJ is available, we will be able to bounce a couple maps. Or he can give me a couple maps to try and see which ones make more power. I can do 93 vs 50/50 e85.

PS: Just found out that a local station should be getting e85 pretty soon so it will be easier to come by for me. I will no longer have to go into the scary neighborhoods to get what I need... lol!

Lots of win in this post.

get the results but wait to post them :sgrin:

Well, this exercise wasn't as helpful as I wanted. UOA for the black death:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...MS3_Solids.jpg

The high amounts of magnesium and zinc make me think it's eating something; not sure what the calcium would be from though.

*Toodles off to find chemical formulae for fuels and additives*

Guys, remember this was diluted in something for the test. The actual PPM count is meaningless. Only the ratio is valid, here.

Edit: Maybe not. I'll call them tomorrow to verify how they tested the sample.

Probably already saw this, but I think it's worth posting:

NASIOC - View Single Post - E85 Injector Build-up / Gunk

So @phate what is your final answer LOL

I'll tell you Friday, lol.

I forsee 80/20 soon.

I think I am prolly due for a pump update myself....

Would be nice to know what the composition of said "gas cum" is; with that knowledge, there might be a way to dissolve or permanently suspend it in the tank so it doesn't adhere to anything.

I'm still digging, will post more info if I find anything of note.

Right but at some point you have to remove that shit.....

In before @MATT DAMOND makes a E85 catch can kit to catch said gas cum

I wouldn't rule out that it could be your E85 source as well. Just another idea.

I was just thinking this; it would be worth a phone call to the station where you fill up to find out whether or not you're the only one who buys e85 there, and how often they refill/clean the tank.

Right I was thinking that as well....But who knows

I know what the goo is....

Well?

isn't it obvious?

corn syrup




sorry, I had too!

Oh snap...Put some on muh waffles.

LOL I wanna run an E85 mix on my MS5 project, when I can, and I'm planning on running an inline filter underneath the car, if I do toy with E85. Maybe I could make kits or sumtin, IDK.

Side note, I recently moved, and uhaul lied to me, telling me the truck was a V8 when it was actually a V10. Sooooo I filled the tank with E85 before returning it. I also tried many times to do a burnout, but every attempt on dry pavement was fail.

YOU sir WIN!

DYNO UPDATE: NO DYNO

Just got a call from the dyno operator...one drum isn't doing something right so they have to get a mustang dyne tech out to fix it. That won't be until next week. FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK !!!

Time to make some more calls, lol.


@wolly6973

that sucks... I was really looking forward to your results and finally getting on the rollers myself.

Keep me posted if you find anything else that wouldn't be too far out of my way.