E85 Remedy with HPFP Hardware modifications

[Sandman978]

What's soldered on there? Gold plated tab?

Fapped over pics of Laguna Seca

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Sandman978 What's soldered on there? Gold plated tab? Fapped over pics of Laguna Seca

I'm burning some fuel up, verifying that my gauge is not stuck at 3/4 full. After I see it drop and register full after I fillip I'll give details.

But In short, solder ball with a point in it, and a piece of a paper clip lol


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[Enki]

Could you just solder over the whole thing and prevent issues?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki Could you just solder over the whole thing and prevent issues?

No, the black you see on the left side is a special coating that solder will not adhere to. I then tried to scrape off the coating looking for s trace to solder to. Unfortunately there was none under it.


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[g00s3y]

Whatever magic you have done, I am 150% interested. Being able to know my fuel level is something I do like.

Also yeah I did finish the same day I started that fun. I'll definitely be pulling it tomorrow to look at it, and hopefully fix it with your magic.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by g00s3y Whatever magic you have done, I am 150% interested. Being able to know my fuel level is something I do like. Also yeah I did finish the same day I started that fun. I'll definitely be pulling it tomorrow to look at it, and hopefully fix it with your magic.

It's on a need to know basis. IIRC you are on petrol, you trader.


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[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by littleloogy It's on a need to know basis. IIRC you are on petrol, you traitor. Sent from my iPhone 6

This is true, but that was only to try and "fix" the fuel level sender problem without having to open it up again. But that isn't working, plus another e85 station opened up (makes 2 stations within 10 miles of me). So if there is a possibility of a permanent fix, I will gladly let the ethanol gods bless my car again.

[littleloogy]

It's working and Looks good. I'll write how to do it now since I got a 12 pack of XX and a copy of "The Love Bug" (a 1968 classic) to watch.




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[nindoja]

@littleloogy; any chance you can post up the logs from the aluminum foil coverage tests?
@chaser27;

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by littleloogy It's on a need to know basis. IIRC you are on petrol, you trader. Sent from my iPhone 6

*traitor

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny *traitor

Dam auto correct...


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[littleloogy]

All you need to get you fuel level sensor working again is a solder pencil, some steel wool, and some WD-40.

First the obvious, you need to either drop your fuel tank or make your access hole bigger to get to to your ITFP which is where your fuel sender unit is. Remove your pump and place it on your work bench and take a look at your problem child.


Remove the fuel level sending unit from the housing by sliding it upwards and unplugging the connector. Place the fuel pump aside.

What I did was take some WD-40 and a toothbrush to clean everything up. WD-40 will clean up everything that has been corroding. (Used this when I did Amplifier repair and it worked great!)

The next thing you will want to do is grab your ohm meter and check connectivity. Like so...
in my case I was reading an open circuit which was caused by a bad connection between the terminal and the plate.

So what I did was I took the corroded terminal off and used some 00 steel wool soaked in WD-40 to clean the terminal. I then took some Q-tips with wd 40 on the plate to clean it up so there will be a solid connection.

To prevent any future corrosion I soldered a solder ball on the tip of the terminal with some silver bearing solder


Put it back together, verify connectivity, and you should be golden. Make sure you use as much clamping force as possible when reattaching the terminal to the plate.

If anyone needs more detail or questions feel free to ask.








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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Dam auto correct... Sent from my iPhone 6

What the duck you talking about.

[Enki]

So how long does it normally take for the sender to take a shit once full corn touches it?

[littleloogy]

Couple weeks in my case. I was on 50/50 with no problems. When I switched to full E... Went out, quick!


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[Enki]

How quick is quick?

[littleloogy]

Few weeks compadre


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[Enki]

So there's a bit of time that needs to pass before this can be signed off as 100% fixed then...? Or did you already do this weeks ago?

[littleloogy]

Here everyone. I makes for you.

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[Enki]

Filmed with advanced potato 2.0 pro.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki So there's a bit of time that needs to pass before this can be signed off as 100% fixed then...? Or did you already do this weeks ago?

Wait, who signs off on my work?

I have not said that this was a 100%, Cure all. I was asked me to post up how I did it, so I did. Usually wait a good while before posting how I did something to prevent some jerkoff copying shit prematurely


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[Enki]

I was only asking for clarification. I wasn't sure if you had tested this as being 100% fixed on full corn yet or not.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Enki Filmed with advanced potato 2.0 pro.

Alright, fine. It is in HD now...


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[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by nindoja @littleloogy; any chance you can post up the logs from the aluminum foil coverage tests? @chaser27;

sure Brownie...

base no coverage.csv

30%coverage wot.csv

60% wot.csv

80% wot.csv

I will be collecting some more data This week.

I should really start to think about sorting out this thread. I have 3 projects going on at the moment, even I cant keep it straight.

[littleloogy]

Well, I did it again, But this time I wanted to put my timing back to how I normally Run. I also wanted to try no coverage VS 100% Coverage. the results this time were completely Backwards from my last attempt. BAT's sure can climb fast
BAT test 2.jpg

100% coverage 1st run.csv

100% coverage 2nd run.csv

Uncovered 1st Run.csv

Uncovered 2nd run.csv

[littleloogy]

I fear that running this much timing with high BAT's is pushing me past MBT. My next test will be running 1/2 the timing That I am currently running.

If you look at my 80 WOT log from my post from yesterday, notice my timing at the higher RPM range when my BAT's are at their highest compared to the uncovered run. The timing is much lower (I screwed up a timing table on accident) yet I am making more power then the uncovered runs.






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[littleloogy]

Back to the fuel level sender problem:
Update...
I have yet to experience any problems with my okie rigged level sender. I ran my tank down to where it said I had 7 miles left in tank. It then took 14 gallons to top it off. So if anyone is wondering, the range is still accurate.


Cheers!


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[Enki]

Level sender would have normally gone out by now right?

[littleloogy]

Fuck if I know. Mine went out years ago when I first started putting on SI-1 in the tank. With the 1oz to 1 gallons ratio. Maybe @g00s3y; can give us a better understanding of how fast his went out. I remember it being pretty fast. @Dano; you have a Pu, any input?


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[g00s3y]

My first sender went out at about 53k, bought the car with 37k. That was about 8k miles on pump, 8k miles on e42.5 mix, then about 500 miles on full e before it started going.

When I replaced it the first time, it lasted through about 2 tanks of 50/50 and 3 tanks of e85. After soldering it, I'm about halfway through my second tank of e with no problems. Sender was a bit wonky with the first tank, but that was to be expected as it was "calibrating" i'm sure.

[littleloogy]

Glad it's working @g00s3y; I appreciate the feed back. Please let us know if you run into a problem. we are the only ones doing this, that I know of.


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[Easter Bunny]

@Dano; has a Juan.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny @Dano; has a Juan.

Well shit... @Dano; why you no have Pu?


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[Dano]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Fuck if I know. Mine went out years ago when I first started putting on SI-1 in the tank. With the 1oz to 1 gallons ratio. Maybe @g00s3y; can give us a better understanding of how fast his went out. I remember it being pretty fast. @Dano; you have a Pu, any input? Sent from my iPhone 6

no sir...I have a gen 1

edit: and have no intention of getting a PU. Maybe a gen 3 but more likely a Focus RS in 2017.

[snailD]

Originally Posted by Dano no sir...I have a gen 1 edit: and have no intention of getting a PU. Maybe a gen 3 but more likely a Focus RS in 2017.

Speaking of the focus RS, i saw one yesterday ripping around, the guy wouldn't stop to talk tho he was taunting us and then weaved through traffic and took some backroad

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by snailD Speaking of the focus RS, i saw one yesterday ripping around, the guy wouldn't stop to talk tho he was taunting us and then weaved through traffic and took some backroad

You mean Focus ST right? I don't think the RS was released yet.

On topic though, 500+ miles on e85 after soldering and fuel level sender still working correctly.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by snailD Speaking of the focus RS, i saw one yesterday ripping around, the guy wouldn't stop to talk tho he was taunting us and then weaved through traffic and took some backroad

as goosey said, it's unlikely you saw an RS.....won't be here till 2017...and there is a HUGE difference between the ST and RS. Not even close to the same car.

[snailD]

nope it was the RS. I live at 10,000 FT ASL and they test cars up here all the time. I live right by the highest town in the US. Here is the best pic we could get. Michigan plates....

[g00s3y]

Shit that's awesome. Look at that single pipe sticking out the back, were you able to get a look at the front? Is that just blurry, or do they really have a Chevy emblem on the back lol.

[Dano]

a pic is worth a thousand words as they say...certainly looks like an RS. Wing, rear diffuser, sculpted sides of rear bumper and wheels are def not OEM ST and look like the RS package.

better place to discuss this here. post up your pic.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...cus-rs-183726/