E85 Remedy with HPFP Hardware modifications

[Raider]

Originally Posted by phate Yes, but see below. In the past, gearheads were nominated by other gear heads. I don't see that as the only possible way, because the gearheads cannot frequent every thread on the forum to keep up with certain people. My suggestion is to start a nomination thread, because randomly suggesting it in a post will get lost quickly. Tag @Raider; to let him know about the potentials and the ensuing discussion, because he is likely the only one who can actually make changes to the group in the absence of Haltech. Tag the other gearheads, because I think they should weigh in. Cite work (link threads) accomplished and state why you think they are deserving of the gearhead title. There is a thread in a separate part of the forum that has these outlines for gearheads:

Gearheads nominate gearheads in their section. no mods, no haltech, just GH.

[MSP6]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Draw me a picture.

OK!

[Dano]

Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 OK- You're crazy but, you know, in a good way IIRC, wasn't it PTPJohn (spits...) that farted around with just enlarging the injector opening? Also, IIRC, it was determined that changes, as he was making them, only resulted in bad things happening to the spray pattern and essentially a total loss of any decent atomization. I'll search around some if I get time today and see if I can find those old threads unless somebody else beats me to it or more relevant info comes up instead

IIRC both John and SSInstaller enlarged the injector orifices and fucked up the pattern to the point gains were meaningless.

I wish loogy luck but the injectors are much closer to rocket science than the relatively simplistic CDFP.

IMO both the needle and orifice need to be extremely precisely matched to make a good injector. I think in the two above examples they may have achieved marginal IDC overhead but drivability went into the dumper, Idle, CL and PT operation suffered. I would not be surprised if ran very long the wall washing would have caused motor damage.

going down the injector road will be a journey for sure.

[Easter Bunny]

ssinstallers worked fine but he stated after the fact that it wasn't worth the headache or expense for the marginal increase in headroom.

Who knows what to believe about johns adventure.

[cletusb]

littleloogy; does this mean that we won't know results on the IE fuel internals for a while?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by cletusb littleloogy; does this mean that we won't know results on the IE fuel internals for a while?

Got my car back last night, roof paint is flawless again. I am still on petrol. I am going to open my AP tonight and get a base E85 map started for my car. I'll drain my tank tonight and should be on E for my NATOR drive tomorrow. We will see how it goes.


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[littleloogy]

Fuel pump started rattling today. At first I thought it was something wrong with these new internals, but turns out My RV turned into a dog whistle.


What a mess... Not how I wanted to spend my Sunday.




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[littleloogy]

Cam follower 500 miles




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[littleloogy]

I replaced my RV with a used One. Rattle is gone. Win.


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[Mazdazilla6]

I'm definitely interested in seeing how these internals fair on full E. All those torques need to be put through all the wheels.

PS. I believe it was Deatschwerks that made the 1 set of ported injectors but headroom was minimal (10%ish?) and they said they would never ever ever do it again.

ALSO, SP63 has posted about messing around with porting the injectors. They've got some photo stuff on their instagram but as per the norm they ain't said nuthin about it.

AND, I think Total MPS managed to make an adapter to use EcoBoost injectors on our head. But don't quote me on it.


Whatever happened to that Frankenpump that was mashed up with VW parts?

[littleloogy]

Transfusion... Out with the bad... Now corn is in my tank.


What the fuck!?




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[littleloogy]

Alright, got it flashed, I am officially back on the wagon. 46,780miles. Let's see how far it can go with just RP dexos1 and IE internals.


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[cletusb]

Fingers crossed for you

[tegxsi]

Looks like the petrol went into a Focus.

[littleloogy]

Well no news is good news. 150 miles, everything looks like it should. Here is some IPhone slow-mo for your viewing pleasure. Don't make fun of my beats


I have no time to get on my desktop for logs so this is all you get.


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[Sandman978]

Pink? Didn't think you were macho enough for her...

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[Jarods7920]

Are you on straight e85?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 Are you on straight e85?

100% brah
Mixes are for pussies.


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[Sandman978]

Fapped over pics of Laguna Seca

[littleloogy]

@ 230 miles this morning. RV Squeaked for the first time, Just briefly. This was the first change I noticed. Pressure has not been affected... Yet.


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[littleloogy]

I have already passed My original Autotech E85 base test. On AT's at this point I was already experiencing sticky deaths. I ended up having to pull over and stop at 420 miles due to complete fuel pressure loss.

But worry not, I am still rocking and rolling. I am back to Killing Modded cars again and reminding myself how I need a new clutch and injector seals. I love the smell of raw E85 fumes pouring into my cab during a WOT run.


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[Sandman978]

So... IE gets the green light in initial test phase? One tank in?

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[ItsNox]

Originally Posted by littleloogy I have already passed My original Autotech E85 base test. On AT's at this point I was already experiencing sticky deaths. I ended up having to pull over and stop at 420 miles due to complete fuel pressure loss. But worry not, I am still rocking and rolling. I am back to Killing Modded cars again and reminding myself how I need a new clutch and injector seals. I love the smell of raw E85 fumes pouring into my cab during a WOT run. Sent from my iPhone 6

Impressive results already. Promising!

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[Enki]

Better sealing...probably won't ever have issues with the redline added.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Sandman978 So... IE gets the green light in initial test phase? One tank in? Fapped over pics of Laguna Seca

3 tanks in yo! I just drove me car into your hood. I'm crossing my fingers I can get home after my trip to the Gay Area...


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Originally Posted by Enki Better sealing...probably won't ever have issues with the redline added.

These internals will be great for someone that wants to switch back and fourth between E85 and gas. I'll be honest, I want them to fail so I can quit pressure watching. But I'll push it until I can't go no more...


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[Sandman978]

Originally Posted by littleloogy 3 tanks in yo! I just drove me car into your hood. I'm crossing my fingers I can get home after my trip to the Gay Area... Sent from my iPhone 6 These internals will be great for someone that wants to switch back and fourth between E85 and gas. I'll be honest, I want them to fail so I can quit pressure watching. But I'll push it until I can't go no more... Sent from my iPhone 6

Is that a beervite?

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[littleloogy]

Heading here: http://www.thewarfieldtheatre.com/events/detail/253374
got these tickets for Christmas.


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[littleloogy]

well I have to say this log looks really good for 550 miles on corn. I think I will lean out a bit and turn up the boost to see if I get any fuel pressure drop.
Fuel pressure 3rd to 4th.csv

Fuck yeah! I am pretty Stoked about the results.

[cletusb]

Awesome, looking good. Hope this is the answer to all our problems lol

Tho e85 around here is getting up around the price of premium, apparently the cost of ethanol is high or some bs

[littleloogy]

That's weird. Mine shot up too the last few days. I might know why... People against GMO crops are setting fires and destroying entire fields.

Ignorant people... I tell you. It's interesting to know that without GMO's we would not be able to feed all the people in this world. And with the growing population how will we continue to feed everyone and make E85. I am not going to turn this into a rant, but in short: If you don't like GMO's don't buy them. Burning crops just ruins our E prices


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[Dano]

E subsidies have also tapered off. In the US for sure. Dont know about AU, cletus

To continue rant. We cant feed everyone long term. Govts wont tell you that but facts r facts.

Tappin

[Enki]

Meanwhile gas is still subsidized heavily.

Also we should be making hooch from switchgrass not corn. Inefficient as all hell.

[Mazdazilla6]

Sugarcane > switchgrass > biodegradeable waste > corn

Wrote a couple papers on E last semester. Pretty funny how everyone always turns a blind eye to it when it's been staring us in the face for the past 15 years.


Also I'm really stoked to see these internals doing so well. @littleloogy; if you don't run into any issues at say 2k miles will you pull the pump to inspect?

[Enki]

Im mostly against using anything human consumable as fuel source. Better to use that shit as fuel, unless you live in a place where you have a surplus of the product in question (Brazil, for instance, used to have a HUGE ethanol market based off their surplus sugarcane if memory serves).

[Jarods7920]

Not to derail this thread much further, but when people who say that dont like GMOs they usually have no fucking clue what they are talking about. You want to shock them, simply hypothesize with them how they feel about a diabetics use of insulin to live? Most do not have any idea that as a result of a GMO insulin was created. When it comes to those kinds if things EVERYONE must do their own research and become informed and not take what is crammed down your throat by popular opinion.

Good work on the internals though! Keep it up, i would love to see how this turns out after you have put a couple thousand miles on the car.

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 Not to derail this thread much further, but when people who say that dont like GMOs they usually have no fucking clue what they are talking about. You want to shock them, simply hypothesize with them how they feel about a diabetics use of insulin to live? Most do not have any idea that as a result of a GMO insulin was created. When it comes to those kinds if things EVERYONE must do their own research and become informed and not take what is crammed down your throat by popular opinion. Good work on the internals though! Keep it up, i would love to see how this turns out after you have put a couple thousand miles on the car.

Not to nitpick, but GMOs only had a hand in rDNA-synthesized (human) insulin. Diabetics were surviving on harvested insulin (and still do in many parts of the world) long before they were synthesizing it using recombinant DNA techniques.

Nevertheless - I have no problems with GMOs or GMO crops - I'd much rather have biologically programmed pest control than chemically sprayed on pest control, for one. There are many other benefits, and GMOs are certainly not going anywhere anytime soon.

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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by Dano E subsidies have also tapered off. In the US for sure. Dont know about AU, cletus To continue rant. We cant feed everyone long term. Govts wont tell you that but facts r facts. Tappin

I grow my own vegetables, now i just need to move somewhere that i will have space for chickens and rabbits.

Originally Posted by Enki Im mostly against using anything human consumable as fuel source. Better to use that shit as fuel, unless you live in a place where you have a surplus of the product in question (Brazil, for instance, used to have a HUGE ethanol market based off their surplus sugarcane if memory serves).

i believe they were manufacturing the ethanol from the stalks and other leftovers and by products so it was essentially free.

[ItsNox]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny I grow my own vegetables, now i just need to move somewhere that i will have space for chickens and rabbits.

Replace rabbits with guinea pigs. They have more fat and are more delicious. Nom nom

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[justinjenkins]

Originally Posted by littleloogy well I have to say this log looks really good for 550 miles on corn. I think I will lean out a bit and turn up the boost to see if I get any fuel pressure drop. Attachment 198744 Fuck yeah! I am pretty Stoked about the results.

Ok so now that you have had these internals in for a while would you say they are a pretty good chance at a go for 100% e85? @littleloogy;

Originally Posted by littleloogy well I have to say this log looks really good for 550 miles on corn. I think I will lean out a bit and turn up the boost to see if I get any fuel pressure drop. Attachment 198744 Fuck yeah! I am pretty Stoked about the results.

Ok so now that you have had these internals in for a while would you say they are a pretty good chance at a go for 100% e85? @littleloogy;

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny vegetables

What is this, never heard that word before.