Full E85 Redline SI-1 Cure steps/results.

[Enki]

Fortunately for you, I still have 90% of my first bottle so it should last you a long ass time.

[MSP6]

Originally Posted by Enki Fortunately for you, I still have 90% of my first bottle so it should last you a long ass time.

^This....no reason you should need more than 1 bottle.

[PapaSmurf]

I've been running 100% corn now for over a year with SI-1 and Valvoline VR1.

My car starts/drives about 1-2 times a week so I wouldn't know about the daily driving aspect.

40+ PSI 6466.

No black death, or signs of it. I do however clean/add more SI-1 when I do oil changes.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf I've been running 100% corn now for over a year with SI-1 and Valvoline VR1. My car starts/drives about 1-2 times a week so I wouldn't know about the daily driving aspect. 40+ PSI 6466. No black death, or signs of it. I do however clean/add more SI-1 when I do oil changes.

Said this a little too soon.

Started my car last week and it idle'd for about 5 seconds or so and die. Noticeable pressure drop from the HPFP. Going to rip it apart this weekend and see what the deal is.

[Enki]

Try this first:

Remove spill valve, squirt redline into main chamber (via visible big hole in spill valve area). Drain excess from spill valve area. Repeat until you're only getting redline (2-3 times).
Fill spill valve area to lowest thread with redline, reassemble.
Start car, wait a second or so and blip throttle. Should be good as new.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Enki Try this first: Remove spill valve, squirt redline into main chamber (via visible big hole in spill valve area). Drain excess from spill valve area. Repeat until you're only getting redline (2-3 times). Fill spill valve area to lowest thread with redline, reassemble. Start car, wait a second or so and blip throttle. Should be good as new.

will do. Ill respond once I complete. probably Saturday.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf will do. Ill respond once I complete. probably Saturday.

I was on my way to drop my son off at school and my pump seized. I pulled over, grabbed my redline, opened the spill valve, sucked out some fuel and squirted 3ml of si-1 into my spill valve. I floored the gas and clutch and turned the car over without firing the car. It took a bit but eventually it loosened up and I was able to build pressure again.

[PapaSmurf]

Some Si1 into my spill valve cleared her throat.

[Enki]

Fantastic news, and an easy fix. Good to have someone back me on this.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by littleloogy I was on my way to drop my son off at school and my pump seized. I pulled over, grabbed my redline, opened the spill valve, sucked out some fuel and squirted 3ml of si-1 into my spill valve. I floored the gas and clutch and turned the car over without firing the car. It took a bit but eventually it loosened up and I was able to build pressure again.

This was on your IE internals that have worked flawlessly since installation?

Do your stations out there switch to E70 for the winter? I know ours do and we have. I wonder if that could contribute to your trouble happening after all this time.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Dano This was on your IE internals that have worked flawlessly since installation? Do your stations out there switch to E70 for the winter? I know ours do and we have. I wonder if that could contribute to your trouble happening after all this time.

No, this was on autotech internals while I was still running pennzoil ultra. My IE internals are still working flawlessly.

This will be my first winter on the internals, maybe they will start to stick. We will have to find out.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by Dano I wonder if that could contribute to your trouble happening after all this time.

Nah even with the Redline prep done properly, over time it will thin out in the pump and you'll get sticky again. Fortunately, the fix is as easy as pulling the spill valve and giving the pump a little flush with Redline.

[Dano]

since this related to the AT internals I would agree. I was just concerned that the IE internals were having issues but loogy corrected me on that.

so it would seem, for now, that the IEs remain the best option for our platform on E85.

[Cheapspeed]

Originally Posted by Dano since this related to the AT internals I would agree. I was just concerned that the IE internals were having issues but loogy corrected me on that. so it would seem, for now, that the IEs remain the best option for our platform on E85.

There's not much point of e85 without port injection though, right? I run out of IDC on E25.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by Cheapspeed There's not much point of e85 without port injection though, right? I run out of IDC on E25.

Maybe...
>_>
<_<
Not?
Hehehehe

[Cheapspeed]

Originally Posted by Enki Maybe... >_> <_< Not? Hehehehe

I just want to know if the IE internals are really worth anything to anyone on an otherwise stock fueling system. I don't understand the tuning/chemistry behind it all.

Is it possible to at least achieve the same amount of power/tq on E85 as E25 with just the IE internal upgrade? Besides the hit on fuel economy it would be nice to fill up with E85 instead of mixing.

[Enki]

Not on big turbo it isn't...yet. Pretty much limited to high K04 numbers on bt and full corn.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Cheapspeed There's not much point of e85 without port injection though, right? I run out of IDC on E25.

True. I wanted to work up to 5050 w o trouble so am interested in the success of these internals. Once you add PI sky is the limit if they hold up.

Tappin

[Enki]

Just dropping to 50/50 gets you a ton of headroom, and if the new injectors pan out...well...Good times to be had by all.

[panzerschrekk]

Just saw that API SN has compatibility with E85: API SN Engine Oil Category - oilspecifications.org

Will see if i find an oil with DEXOS1/2 AND API SN specs, as i see it...oil is our biggest concern while running E85.

[panzerschrekk]

Just saw that API SN has compatibility with E85: API SN Engine Oil Category - oilspecifications.org

Will see if i find an oil with DEXOS1/2 AND API SN specs, as i see it...oil is our biggest concern while running E85.

[wes3id]

I just did this reline si-1 hpfp cleaning and now im having some cut out issues at light throttle. i went full e85 a week ago and have been running first draft freektune map for e85. did a compression test yesterday and all cylinders were very consistant in the mid 170's. cant find any leaks. i did prime the pump after doing the treatment by clutch and gas to the floor while cranking to build hpfp pressure. my idle fp is in the 400's warm, 1600's-1700's cruising. i get .35 knock once in a while but thats it. the car is sputtering when i give it some boost but drives fine out of boost. any ideas or help you can give me guys?

i did take a log of this while driving around the block, and one at idle ...if it would help diagnose the issue

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by wes3id I just did this reline si-1 hpfp cleaning and now im having some cut out issues at light throttle. i went full e85 a week ago and have been running first draft freektune map for e85. did a compression test yesterday and all cylinders were very consistant in the mid 170's. cant find any leaks. i did prime the pump after doing the treatment by clutch and gas to the floor while cranking to build hpfp pressure. my idle fp is in the 400's warm, 1600's-1700's cruising. i get .35 knock once in a while but thats it. the car is sputtering when i give it some boost but drives fine out of boost. any ideas or help you can give me guys? i did take a log of this while driving around the block, and one at idle ...if it would help diagnose the issue

What oil are you running?


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[wes3id]

RP 5w-30 dexos1

[Enki]

How long have you been running it?

[wes3id]

Originally Posted by Enki How long have you been running it?

changed oil to RP and installed BSD on sunday, filled up with E85 and loaded map on monday. car was running ok with maybe a small cutout under heavy boost durring logs. took apart hpfp today and did the si-1 treatment per the guidence in the beginning of this thread, reprimed pump and took for a test run ....getting shuttering/chugging durring light boost. no leaks/good compression/no cel

log #1 is a drive around the block
log #2 is idle

Sorry for all the logging parameters, just wanted to cover all bases.

[Enki]

You need more than one oil change to get distance between your engine and the deaths. How much oil do you think was left over after the change? That shit sticks to everything.

Reduce to 50/50 mix or go back to your old tune/mix until after next oil change at least.

[wes3id]

Originally Posted by Enki You need more than one oil change to get distance between your engine and the deaths. How much oil do you think was left over after the change? That shit sticks to everything. Reduce to 50/50 mix or go back to your old tune/mix until after next oil change at least.

Not sure I understand the question. If you're asking about remnants of the old oil...I'd say barely any since I did the bsd the previous day and cleaned out the oil pan. I still have 3/4 tank of e85 , so I guess I'll wait till half a tank and top off with 93. Did you see anything bad in my logs? Any other advice? Thanks man

[Enki]

Looks like throttle/load mapping issue to me. Pedal is constant but throttle plate dips harshly. This could also be traction control.

Edit: Your issue has little to nothing to do with the point of this thread; I recommend you make a new one for actual troubleshooting.

[wes3id]

Think i found the issue...had a sparkplug with crack ceramic. hopefully that is the problem and fixes it.

[MSP6]

Yep, that'll do it.

Updates, I guess. Still going strong on the S1. Who knows how many miles, but since the closest pump to me is 16 miles now I have been going Full E85, 50/50, back and forth still no issues.

Definitely convinced now that the Honey Badger is the Royal Purple and that the S1 just cleaned it out initially. Starting to get complacent with the full corn K04 though...

[MZRChris]

hey guys just read through this thread, awesome info, just curious what kind of power numbers yall were getting with full bolt on e85 k04

[wes3id]

this was my best pull with fully bolted K04/E85 54* ambient temp

[MZRChris]

Originally Posted by wes3id this was my best pull with fully bolted K04/E85 54* ambient temp

Was it full e85..?

[wes3id]

yes

[Enki]

Not the correct place for that question.

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by littleloogy No, this was on autotech internals while I was still running pennzoil ultra. My IE internals are still working flawlessly. This will be my first winter on the internals, maybe they will start to stick. We will have to find out.

So Pennzoil and SI-1 is a no go?

[Dano]

Yes I believe this is correct. you have to use a Dexos rated oil and the last time I looked Penz Plat was not. I used to run it and switched over to RP Dexos

[Enki]

Best way to know for sure: Test it and let us know (might take a couple oil changes to get whatever you have in there now out fully).

[Orangatang]

Originally Posted by Dano Yes I believe this is correct. you have to use a Dexos rated oil and the last time I looked Penz Plat was not. I used to run it and switched over to RP Dexos

ahem. Oreilly auto near me.(phone turned photo sideways.)